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@reprobate said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
These are interesting times. I think culture and society is seeing a bigger shift than has been seen in decades. It is incredible.
Companies, Celebs and Media have become so used to bending over for the regressive left that they are taking awhile to realise that tactic is now a doomed one. There is now a HUGE number of people in the US and elsewhere that feel emboldened to tell appeasers of the regressive left where to shove their opinions. It is now going to become a fact that it is very expensive for companies to get involved in politics. It used to be that attacking right wing views was an easy decision, the left made so much noise.. it was a no brainer.
That has all changed.
It will only magnify out, first to feel the effect will be corporations (like Pepsi), dont fuck off HALF your domestic market base! Next will come celebs and media as they get confronted more and more in more and more vocal ways, comedians like Colbert and John Oliver will be confronted, mocked and abused in ways they have never experienced but often handed out. There is a safety in numbers that will embolden those on the right and left who are sick of the regressive left to push back. when you know there are 60 million + people who agree that tyhese clebs, media and corporations are grade A piston wristed gibbons.. you are likely to say it. I ahve already noticed a willingness amongst colleagues and friends to agree with Trump that was simply not there 3 weeks ago.
Nature abhors a vacuum.. and someone who wants to make money or gain fame will fill the gaping vacuum, and they will go to war against the current media, Celebs and corporations. It wont be fast.. .. but it will happen over the next 4 years. There will be some epic showdowns. I cannot wait for someone like Oliver to have the shit ripped out of him.god you're a broken record, so i'm going to keep beating the drum too. could you point me to hillary saying regressive things during the campaign? i don't even consider her as 'left' for that matter.
i still reckon she got beaten because she is perceived as corrupt as all fuck, because she is perceived as a rich member of a political elite class that doesn't care about ordinary people. not because she thinks differently to you about who should be allowed in which dunny.for example: does clinton support those fuckwits on uni campuses with their safe spaces, not mentioning jefferson, trigger warnings etc? if she had said stuff like that on the campaign trail, and people had voted against it, then fair enough - but i just didn't see it.
I didnt get past your first sentence before I stopped. You accusing anyone else of being a broken record is beyond funny.
Also interesting to note that my post was not about any poster, and you instantly... in your first sentence engage in attacking the poster.
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@gt12 said in US Election Thread 2016:
I'm in education for international business management, and gender remains un underlying issue, with systemic biases that (e.g., "attraction bias" or "congruity bias" that favors men) that do reduce opportunities for women.
E.g., "male raters had a much stronger pro-male bias than did female raters, indicating that the lack of women leaders could be a self-perpetuating issue" (in other words, males have an 'attraction bias' to those similar to themselves.
From the study discussed in that article: "Our findings revealed that men were preferred for male-dominated jobs (i.e., gender-role congruity bias), whereas no strong preference for either gender was found for female-dominated or integrated jobs".
So, I do agree that NZ is way out ahead of many countries, which is good, but there are still bias that need discussing (e.g., in education where I am) and identifying. In Japan, it's out of control, and systemic (e.g. hiring practices, contract styles)
I call bullshit on all of those studies, mainly as my trust in the humanities and gender studies dept is zero. The bias in Humanities and gender studies is obvious.
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@reprobate said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Frank said in US Election Thread 2016:
@reprobate said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
These are interesting times. I think culture and society is seeing a bigger shift than has been seen in decades. It is incredible.
Companies, Celebs and Media have become so used to bending over for the regressive left that they are taking awhile to realise that tactic is now a doomed one. There is now a HUGE number of people in the US and elsewhere that feel emboldened to tell appeasers of the regressive left where to shove their opinions. It is now going to become a fact that it is very expensive for companies to get involved in politics. It used to be that attacking right wing views was an easy decision, the left made so much noise.. it was a no brainer.
That has all changed.
It will only magnify out, first to feel the effect will be corporations (like Pepsi), dont fuck off HALF your domestic market base! Next will come celebs and media as they get confronted more and more in more and more vocal ways, comedians like Colbert and John Oliver will be confronted, mocked and abused in ways they have never experienced but often handed out. There is a safety in numbers that will embolden those on the right and left who are sick of the regressive left to push back. when you know there are 60 million + people who agree that tyhese clebs, media and corporations are grade A piston wristed gibbons.. you are likely to say it. I ahve already noticed a willingness amongst colleagues and friends to agree with Trump that was simply not there 3 weeks ago.
Nature abhors a vacuum.. and someone who wants to make money or gain fame will fill the gaping vacuum, and they will go to war against the current media, Celebs and corporations. It wont be fast.. .. but it will happen over the next 4 years. There will be some epic showdowns. I cannot wait for someone like Oliver to have the shit ripped out of him.god you're a broken record, so i'm going to keep beating the drum too. could you point me to hillary saying regressive things during the campaign? i don't even consider her as 'left' for that matter.
i still reckon she got beaten because she is perceived as corrupt as all fuck, because she is perceived as a rich member of a political elite class that doesn't care about ordinary people. not because she thinks differently to you about who should be allowed in which dunny.for example: does clinton support those fuckwits on uni campuses with their safe spaces, not mentioning jefferson, trigger warnings etc? if she had said stuff like that on the campaign trail, and people had voted against it, then fair enough - but i just didn't see it.
Clinton used every regressive left strategy at her disposal - not herself, but mainly through her surrogates. They screamed racist, sexist, Islamophobic at every opportunity. Obama himself was trying to link Trump to the KKK in their desperate attempt to increase black turnout in North Carolina. She and her Obama allowed this shit to go too far because it supported their political aims. They were fully aware of safe spaces etc but of course did nothing about it for fear of losing votes. Thank God she didn't win.
mate, the KKK is linked to trump in exactly the same way that people on here are linking clinton's defeat to 'regressive left' crazies. i.e. not really. if you're going to hold someone else to a standard then live up to it yourself.
What a load of rubbish. Trump has condemned racism and the KKK, Clinton has not only not condemned the regressive left she has supported them.
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@reprobate said in US Election Thread 2016:
@No-Quarter i know nothing whatsoever about black lives matter, so i can't really comment on that. i do believe that sexism still occurs, and i would be surprised if there wasn't a pay gap - i've never seen thorough analysis to prove that it exists, taking into account all variables - but then i haven't looked - and i have never seen any analysis that suggests that it doesn't exist.
Oh cool now you are expecting proof of negatives. Fantastic...
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May I make a few predictions?
The Trump is a racist BS will quieten down when and if he is able bring jobs back to poorer communities.
The Trump is a sexist issue will never go away because women (and some men) always need something to whinge about
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@Frank said in US Election Thread 2016:
The Trump is a racist BS will quieten down when and if he is able bring jobs back to poorer communities.
That will definitely be a part of it, because depressed social conditions and unemployment lead to discord and crime.
The other part is going to be how the law enforcement moves forward in the USA in these poorer communities as well. One might help lift the other up.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
@gt12 said in US Election Thread 2016:
I'm in education for international business management, and gender remains un underlying issue, with systemic biases that (e.g., "attraction bias" or "congruity bias" that favors men) that do reduce opportunities for women.
E.g., "male raters had a much stronger pro-male bias than did female raters, indicating that the lack of women leaders could be a self-perpetuating issue" (in other words, males have an 'attraction bias' to those similar to themselves.
From the study discussed in that article: "Our findings revealed that men were preferred for male-dominated jobs (i.e., gender-role congruity bias), whereas no strong preference for either gender was found for female-dominated or integrated jobs".
So, I do agree that NZ is way out ahead of many countries, which is good, but there are still bias that need discussing (e.g., in education where I am) and identifying. In Japan, it's out of control, and systemic (e.g. hiring practices, contract styles)
I call bullshit on all of those studies, mainly as my trust in the humanities and gender studies dept is zero. The bias in Humanities and gender studies is obvious.
hahaha, this is wonderful stuff! we've gone past ad hominem to ad whole-branch-of-academium!
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
@reprobate said in US Election Thread 2016:
@No-Quarter i know nothing whatsoever about black lives matter, so i can't really comment on that. i do believe that sexism still occurs, and i would be surprised if there wasn't a pay gap - i've never seen thorough analysis to prove that it exists, taking into account all variables - but then i haven't looked - and i have never seen any analysis that suggests that it doesn't exist.
Oh cool now you are expecting proof of negatives. Fantastic...
leaving aside that you are again claiming that i have said something i haven't, let me explain something to you.
the logic you are using is false. you've got this axiom 'you can't prove a negative' in your head, but it does not apply to what you're talking about.
proving there is no pay gap would present exactly the same challenge as proving that there is one. that's pretty basic stuff. it's not like proving that god doesn't exist, it is simply seeing if two numbers are significantly different. -
@Frank said in US Election Thread 2016:
May I make a few predictions?
The Trump is a racist BS will quieten down when and if he is able bring jobs back to poorer communities.
As Brendan McCullum knew only too well, Trump has to do some serious WINNING!
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@reprobate said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
@gt12 said in US Election Thread 2016:
I'm in education for international business management, and gender remains un underlying issue, with systemic biases that (e.g., "attraction bias" or "congruity bias" that favors men) that do reduce opportunities for women.
E.g., "male raters had a much stronger pro-male bias than did female raters, indicating that the lack of women leaders could be a self-perpetuating issue" (in other words, males have an 'attraction bias' to those similar to themselves.
From the study discussed in that article: "Our findings revealed that men were preferred for male-dominated jobs (i.e., gender-role congruity bias), whereas no strong preference for either gender was found for female-dominated or integrated jobs".
So, I do agree that NZ is way out ahead of many countries, which is good, but there are still bias that need discussing (e.g., in education where I am) and identifying. In Japan, it's out of control, and systemic (e.g. hiring practices, contract styles)
I call bullshit on all of those studies, mainly as my trust in the humanities and gender studies dept is zero. The bias in Humanities and gender studies is obvious.
hahaha, this is wonderful stuff! we've gone past ad hominem to ad whole-branch-of-academium!
Yip, and there is nothing wrong with that. I also discount the academic world of homeopathy and the academic world of Destiny church. gender studies and humanities in general are totally compromised by left wing nut jobs, I don't give a damn if that triggers you.
Gender studes in particular doesnt even deserve to be funded by govts. -
@Frank said in US Election Thread 2016:
Dennmark ready to increase military spending after call with Trump.
I assume the call was basically "you're spending 1.2% and it should be 2% and we're not going to make up the shortfall!", or whether there was some other kind of carrot on the table.
Does anyone know how many of the NATO countries spend less than the 2% required?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
@reprobate said in US Election Thread 2016:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in US Election Thread 2016:
@gt12 said in US Election Thread 2016:
I'm in education for international business management, and gender remains un underlying issue, with systemic biases that (e.g., "attraction bias" or "congruity bias" that favors men) that do reduce opportunities for women.
E.g., "male raters had a much stronger pro-male bias than did female raters, indicating that the lack of women leaders could be a self-perpetuating issue" (in other words, males have an 'attraction bias' to those similar to themselves.
From the study discussed in that article: "Our findings revealed that men were preferred for male-dominated jobs (i.e., gender-role congruity bias), whereas no strong preference for either gender was found for female-dominated or integrated jobs".
So, I do agree that NZ is way out ahead of many countries, which is good, but there are still bias that need discussing (e.g., in education where I am) and identifying. In Japan, it's out of control, and systemic (e.g. hiring practices, contract styles)
I call bullshit on all of those studies, mainly as my trust in the humanities and gender studies dept is zero. The bias in Humanities and gender studies is obvious.
hahaha, this is wonderful stuff! we've gone past ad hominem to ad whole-branch-of-academium!
Yip, and there is nothing wrong with that. I also discount the academic world of homeopathy and the academic world of Destiny church. gender studies and humanities in general are totally compromised by left wing nut jobs, I don't give a damn if that triggers you.
Gender studes in particular doesnt even deserve to be funded by govts.Remember that next time I discount the media world of Brietbart...
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