Harvey Weinstein
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You can have this information but it's going to cost you close to USD$4,000.
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@salacious-crumb 80 cents a sheet or 25 cents if you copy yourself is pretty standard isn't it?
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I'd be more worried about the total lack of timeline. Unless there is an official period or something in other info. Otherwise it's, take a number buddy...
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@paekakboyz said in Harvey Weinstein:
I'd be more worried about the total lack of timeline. Unless there is an official period or something in other info. Otherwise it's, take a number buddy...
You're right. I suppose that they are getting inundated with requests for info. I'm not sure they are allowed to discriminated between what they see as the serious and the frivolous?
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Am I the only one irritated by the #metoo trend?
In no way meaning to dismiss the feelings of anyone who has suffered genuine sexual harassment / abuse but it just seems to me like another bandwagon.
I'm sure most people (including even me) have be3en put into some uncomfortable or unwanted situations, but not everyone feels the need to #metoo.
I'd feel more sympathy if these "courageous people of all genders" had spoken out at the time - that would have been courageous. Now it seems like a whole lot of "I really didn't welcome that grope 30 years ago" is obscuring proper rationale debate and action on what is an ongoing issue and one likely to get worse not improve.
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@dogmeat #metoo
It's getting stupid. Had a friend put up a list including things like when she was 7 another kid kissed her on the lips.Ok sure these days an unwanted kiss is sexual assault (as too is an unwanted stare..)..but for fucks sake that really is scraping the bottom of the barrell. I sense a wee bit of competition over who is the bigger victim and plenty of anti male hatred to boot with metoo evidencing just how bad men really are. I'd be genuinely surprised if anyone, man or women hasn't experienced sexual assault in thier lifetime but I don't see the benefit in drawing an equivalency between years of childhood sexual abuse and 'some creepy guy grabbed my ass in a club'.
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Future POTUS makes some sense on the issue.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22376/metoo-bound-fail-unless-victims-name-names-and-ben-shapiro
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I find it super-fascinating that the ass-kicker in this whole thing -- Rose McGowan -- was raised in the Children of God cult (subsequently known as "Family of Love" and now called "Family International").
"Her father ran an Italian chapter of the Children of God, in which both he and his wife held membership until 1978.[3] McGowan spent her early childhood amid the group's communes, often traveling through Europe with her parents.[2] When interviewed by Howard Stern in 2001, she stated she had avoided the group's calls for members to become sexually active as children and stated that she never personally experienced abuse as a child."
The leader of the cult -- known as "The Love Prophet" -- was a freak named David Berg (a.k.a. "Moses David") who used to pimp out the young females to recruiit strangers into the cult by having sex with them. Where a Jehovah's Witness is supposed to go "witnessing" (knocking on doors, handing out leaflets of Watchtower magazine), the strategy for Children of God was called "FF-ing" ("Flirty Fishing") seducing new recruits with pleasures of nubile flesh. When the women orgasmed they were supposed to yell out how much they loved God. There have been widespread accusations of sexual abuse and pedophilia in that cult.
The cult has changed it's strategies since the death of "Moses David" in the mid-1990s, and FFing is no longer used. But the policy absolutely was used when McGowan was raised -- it was DOCTRINE. It must have been awfully perplexing and psychologically damaging for McGowan -- even if, as she tells Howard Stern, honestly-or-not, that she wasn't sexually abused as a kid -- her mother would have been expected to have sex with strangers to "bring 'em into the fold," and this was overt out-in-the-open.
There have been several documentaries about the cult from the 1970s & '80s... the most recent one a few years back was made by HBO, called "Lost and Found.". First part is here:
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
I find it super-fascinating that the ass-kicker in this whole thing -- Rose McGowan -- was raised in the Children of God cult (subsequently known as "Family of Love" and now called "Family International").
"Her father ran an Italian chapter of the Children of God, in which both he and his wife held membership until 1978.[3] McGowan spent her early childhood amid the group's communes, often traveling through Europe with her parents.[2] When interviewed by Howard Stern in 2001, she stated she had avoided the group's calls for members to become sexually active as children and stated that she never personally experienced abuse as a child."
The leader of the cult -- known as "The Love Prophet" -- was a freak named David Berg (a.k.a. "Moses David") who used to pimp out the young females to recruiit strangers into the cult by having sex with them. Where a Jehovah's Witness is supposed to go "witnessing" (knocking on doors, handing out leaflets of Watchtower magazine), the strategy for Children of God was called "FF-ing" ("Flirty Fishing") seducing new recruits with pleasures of nubile flesh. When the women orgasmed they were supposed to yell out how much they loved God. There have been widespread accusations of sexual abuse and pedophilia in that cult.
The cult has changed it's strategies since the death of "Moses David" in the mid-1990s, and FFing is no longer used. But the policy absolutely was used when McGowan was raised -- it was DOCTRINE. It must have been awfully perplexing and psychologically damaging for McGowan -- even if, as she tells Howard Stern, honestly-or-not, that she wasn't sexually abused as a kid -- her mother would have been expected to have sex with strangers to "bring 'em into the fold," and this was overt out-in-the-open.
There have been several documentaries about the cult from the 1970s & '80s... the most recent one a few years back was made by HBO, called "Lost and Found.". First part is here:
How come that is fascinating?
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I'm thinking Hollywood has been operating a lot like a cult for a very long time -- using sex abuse, shiny awards, mind control and fear to f#ck over insecure people who are desperate to be loved.
And now the dam is bursting.
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@salacious-crumb Massive power imbalance between those who have and those who don't, no regulation of any kind, the constant threat of being blackballed out of the industry if you step out of line. These are not traits specific to Hollywood but show business seems to present a haven for predators like Saville, Cosby, the Fox news guy, Weinstein to name but a few
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I was reminded of the recent court case where Taylor Swift took some no one radio DJ to court for reaching under her skirt at a publicity event. She is one of the biggest female stars in the world right now, and she was subjected to trial by the DJ's lawyer. Imagine if the power dynamic was reversed