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So resurrecting this because I've been becoming increasingly aware of a certain gentleman in the UK gaining in popularity and I'm starting to think he might just have the goods to save Britain from the uselessness of May and the sheer dangerous idiocy of Corbyn.
Has anyone else thoughts on Jacob Rees-Mogg, and his potential for leadership especially around Brexit?
This was just from a few days ago standing up to Antifa.
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@rembrandt said in British Politics:
So resurrecting this because I've been becoming increasingly aware of a certain gentleman in the UK gaining in popularity and I'm starting to think he might just have the goods to save Britain from the uselessness of May and the sheer dangerous idiocy of Corbyn.
Has anyone else thoughts on Jacob Rees-Mogg, and his potential for leadership especially around Brexit?
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@crucial Ha! a mate recently told me he was 'just a joke' and now you're throwing that all too familiar literally hitler reference...starting to sound a lot like everyones favourite orange president! Very promising, very promising indeed!
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@rembrandt From what I’ve seen of him he’s certainly odd. But he’s obviously a very clever man and a lot of the negative opinion is a reaction to his plummy voice. There’s no shortage of people in the U.K. who assume that anybody who talks like him is automatically a shit.
I will tell you one thing though, I would not have had the self control needed to refrain from punching that loudmouth capped fluffybunny in the throat. What a fucking oxygen thief.
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@jc I thought it was absolutely ground breaking how the Moggmeister reacted there. From my time in the UK I have had the exact same impression as most in regards to his accent. I just assumed he would get flabbergasted and shy away from the whole situation and maybe follow that safe-space cadet May's lead in calling for extra protections for politicians on campus. But no, this dapper gentleman fearlessly charged right the fuck into the fray. Now I've personally been involved in antifa arguments and that shit is bloody scary, they wear masks, are completely deranged and aren't opposed to using weapons to cover for their incredibly low testosterone levels. He took a calculated risk and got his hands dirty, he may sound like a ponce but he's quite tough and surprisingly relatable, perhaps due to his blatant honestly, look at how he talks with that labour MP in that last video I put up. She's clearly a bit of a virtue signalling moron but he never talks down to her and comes across as odd but also really likeable. I love his point about how he is now the anti-establishment..he's completely right about that.
He's also a bit of a wild card in his own party giving them shit about how they are handling the Brexit situation. This is a great clip of him grilling the Brexit Secretary David Davis.
Brave, strong values, intelligent, well spoken, funny, honest and surprisingly real. He'd get my vote.
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The guy is a posh version of Farage as far as his 'Britain is a white country' views and has personally declared objections to gay marriage and abortion (views he is perfectly entitled to do).
He can sometimes appear as if a declaration of support from Eric Clapton will send him over the line and go full Enoch Powell.Don't discount how much the plummy voice is a negative though. One of the big negatives May faces is that she doesn't come across as empathetic to much of the populace and she isn't even posh.
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On Jacob Rees-Mogg, I am keen to know more about him. One thing I am very wary of these days is people that lean very far to the right picking up a following based purely on critiquing the far left, without really showing their true colours. Not saying this new chap is like that at all, but the more territory the far left take, the more likely it is there will be people very far to the right gaining popularity just by pushing back and that concerns me a bit.
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@crucial said in British Politics:
The guy is a posh version of Farage as far as his 'Britain is a white country' views and has personally declared objections to gay marriage and abortion (views he is perfectly entitled to do).
He can sometimes appear as if a declaration of support from Eric Clapton will send him over the line and go full Enoch Powell.Don't discount how much the plummy voice is a negative though. One of the big negatives May faces is that she doesn't come across as empathetic to much of the populace and she isn't even posh.
Much of the support for stupid 'take Britain back to 1952' Corbyn is because of his 'everyman' appeal.Got any actual evidence of either one of them saying or implying the UK should be a white country? You put the statement in quotes.. who were you quoting, as it seems like you were trying to attribute that quote to Farage.
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@no-quarter said in British Politics:
On Jacob Rees-Mogg, I am keen to know more about him. One thing I am very wary of these days is people that lean very far to the right picking up a following based purely on critiquing the far left, without really showing their true colours. Not saying this new chap is like that at all, but the more territory the far left take, the more likely it is there will be people very far to the right gaining popularity just by pushing back and that concerns me a bit.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in British Politics:
@no-quarter said in British Politics:
On Jacob Rees-Mogg, I am keen to know more about him. One thing I am very wary of these days is people that lean very far to the right picking up a following based purely on critiquing the far left, without really showing their true colours. Not saying this new chap is like that at all, but the more territory the far left take, the more likely it is there will be people very far to the right gaining popularity just by pushing back and that concerns me a bit.
eh?
What has he said that is 'far right'?Nothing to my knowledge, sorry was trying to make a more general point about the rise of people on the far right purely as a response to the spread of Marxism. Nothing to do with Rees-Mogg.
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@baronsilasgreenback For what it's worth - this from the Wiki page on Rees-Mogg which I checked out after reading about him on here as he had largely escaped my notice. His old man was a pompous twat so hardly surprising he's being accused of the same.
Surely his privileged upbringing, avowed distance from every day life experience of most Brit's renders him unacceptable as leader to a majority. Imagine a choice between Corbyn wanting to turn the clock back to the 1950's and this guy the 1850's
"In 2006, Rees-Mogg criticised efforts by Conservative leader David Cameron to increase the numbers of ethnic minorities on the party candidate list, stating, "Ninety-five per cent of this country is white. The list can't be totally different from the country at large."...
"In May 2013, he addressed the annual dinner held by Traditional Britain, a right-wing extremist group that calls for non-white Britons to be deported. Rees-Mogg had been informed as to the nature of the group by anti-fascist group Searchlight prior to is attendance. After the dinner, he informed the press that although he had been informed of the group's views, he had "never been a member or supporter" of them"
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Westminster child abuse accuser 'Nick' is charged with paedophile offences
The alleged fantasist who sparked the Westminster paedophile investigation has been charged with child sex offences.
The man, who can only be identified as Nick, was arrested last year and has already appeared in court, charged with multiple offences relating to allegations of making and possessing hundreds of indecent images of children. He has also been charged with voyeurism.
He has pleaded not guilty to all charges, which allegedly took place between 2015 and 2016, and is expected to stand trial later this year.
The extraordinary development comes as prosecutors are considering whether he should be charged for allegedly lying about being abused as a child and then fraudulently claiming compensation for the ordeal.In 2015, Nick told Scotland Yard that a VIP paedophile ring, operating in Dolphin Square in Westminster, had raped, abused and even murdered young boys.
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@dogmeat said in British Politics:
@baronsilasgreenback For what it's worth - this from the Wiki page on Rees-Mogg which I checked out after reading about him on here as he had largely escaped my notice. His old man was a pompous twat so hardly surprising he's being accused of the same.
Surely his privileged upbringing, avowed distance from every day life experience of most Brit's renders him unacceptable as leader to a majority. Imagine a choice between Corbyn wanting to turn the clock back to the 1950's and this guy the 1850's
"In 2006, Rees-Mogg criticised efforts by Conservative leader David Cameron to increase the numbers of ethnic minorities on the party candidate list, stating, "Ninety-five per cent of this country is white. The list can't be totally different from the country at large."...
"In May 2013, he addressed the annual dinner held by Traditional Britain, a right-wing extremist group that calls for non-white Britons to be deported. Rees-Mogg had been informed as to the nature of the group by anti-fascist group Searchlight prior to is attendance. After the dinner, he informed the press that although he had been informed of the group's views, he had "never been a member or supporter" of them"
I agree with him on the first point, quotas are abhorrent and if you do quotas they should represent the demographics of the community.
That is very far from saying that the UK should be a white country. As for him speaking at a group that is considered unacceptable, it is part of his job. He speaks to all sorts of groups, he even spoke to ANTIFA. Dialog with all comers is apparently his thing, he says that alot.
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Thinking about this some more and it is utterly predictable that this person will be character assassinated. He is right winger who fights for populist right wing ideals, totally unacceptable to the left and those who are desperate to appease the left in some misguided attempt to appear 'fair minded'.. kinda ironic that believing a character assassination is considered fair minded.
Every single right wing populist has the most despicable accusations thrown at them.
This isnt a dig at @dogmeat , I am sure this was just an mildly interesting diversion for him and he was interested in looking into him a bit more and made a few flippant comments. It is more an observation of the discourse that seems to take over politics nowdays.
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