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Dear God, this is funny. Could easily have been posted in the “Fake News” thread, or the “North Korea” thread, but I’ll stick it right here ‘cos the idiot American news media is the defacto opposition party.
Media Double Down After New York Times Gets Busted Peddling Fake News
There may have been a real White House briefing with real White House officials, but The New York Times couldn't be trusted to accurately summarize what the White House official said. And it wasn't on a minor point.
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So a "comedian " calls Ivanka Trump a "Feckless fluffybunny" on TV... and her bosses do not much. Imagine if Michelle Obama was called that on Fox. .
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@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
So a "comedian " calls Ivanka Trump a "Feckless fluffybunny" on TV... and her bosses do not much. Imagine if Michelle Obama was called that on Fox. .
It wasn't as if it was a drunken twitter rant either. This was scripted, filmed and presumably approved by the head honchos at the network. It's a pathetic doublestandard. She epitomises those who claim they're all about love and harmony but that only applies to people who are completely in step with their views. Anyone else is fair game for the most vile abuse imaginable. Never about consistency or the principal, always always the side.
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Economy continues to hum under Trump. Best EVER black unemployment numbers.
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@rancid-schnitzel I feel somewhat dirty defending her, but there's a world of difference between calling someone a fluffybunny and choosing as Barr did, to use racism.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel I feel somewhat dirty defending her, but there's a world of difference between calling someone a fluffybunny and choosing as Barr did, to use racism.
I wasn't actually comparing what was said as such, but if you want racism check out Joy Reid. Oh that's right, her account was "hacked".
As usual Tim Blair hits the nail on the head:
In any case would you put money on Roseanne keeping her series if she'd called Michelle Obama a feckless cnut after posting a picture of herself hugging her daughter?
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel I feel somewhat dirty defending her, but there's a world of difference between calling someone a fluffybunny and choosing as Barr did, to use racism.
Why?
I think both are bad. And that is ignoring the incestuous implications Bee also made... which takes it to a whole new level.I like the suggestion made that the recipient of the insult should decide if an apology is sufficient.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel I feel somewhat dirty defending her, but there's a world of difference between calling someone a fluffybunny and choosing as Barr did, to use racism.
I wasn't actually comparing what was said as such, but if you want racism check out Joy Reid. Oh that's right, her account was "hacked".
Sorry, I didn't mean to give the implication that you did. I've just seen it and your post reminded me of it.
As usual Tim Blair hits the nail on the head:
That just reflects poorly on MSNBC.
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel I feel somewhat dirty defending her, but there's a world of difference between calling someone a fluffybunny and choosing as Barr did, to use racism.
Why?
Abusing someone on their character is different from making judgments about others on the basis of the way they look. One you have control over.
I think both are bad. And that is ignoring the incestuous implications Bee also made... which takes it to a whole new level.
I like the suggestion made that the recipient of the insult should decide if an apology is sufficient.
I don't. There's a good reason that we don't permit the victims of crime to determine the punishment. If individuals don't like the apology, they're welcome to seek civil redress as difficult as that is in the USA.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in US Politics:
I wasn't actually comparing what was said as such, but if you want racism check out Joy Reid. Oh that's right, her account was "hacked".
Allegedly — according to Joy Ann herself — “hacked” by time-travelling hackers.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel I feel somewhat dirty defending her, but there's a world of difference between calling someone a fluffybunny and choosing as Barr did, to use racism.
I’ve seen her for many-many years and it never crossed my mind she was African-American, I thought she might have been Hispanic, Filipino or even Mediterannean/Sicilian or Portuguese (y’know, European)
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Rasmussen poll:
Among all likely voters, 51% think it’s likely senior federal law enforcement officials broke the law in an effort to stop Trump, with 36% who say it’s Very Likely.
#woke
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@salacious-crumb Interesting. Rasmussen is the polling that most favours Trump..but then again it was also pretty much the closest for calling the election too (Hillary by a smidgen)
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Posted less than 10 minutes ago. Hmmm, that repeatedly-delayed Inspector General report is due real-real soon, he knows something, and McCabe is pleading for immunity for his testimony or else he will invoke the 5th Amendment. This is about to get real juicy...
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In other news, US ambassador playing a little loosely with his role in Europe, and not really helping to get the relationship with Germany back on track.
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@gt12 said in US Politics:
In other news, US ambassador playing a little loosely with his role in Europe, and not really helping to get the relationship with Germany back on track.
This bullshit was discredited and fully debunked as exactly that — cow pucky — about three days ago. Grenell said NOTHING of the sort. Hyperventilating Never-Trump “journalists” took to twitter in their usual way, twisting non-existent quotes into an existential crisis, and other liberal journalists piled on with their usual manufactured outrage without even bothering to read the source material. It’s stupefying how journalists refuse to learn their lesson as they drag their profession into the toilet. And isn’t it just a little bit too precious (and convenient) that the Independent has several links in their article BUT NOT ONE to the original Breitbart article for readers to see the comments for themselves, in context, and draw their own conclusions without being led by the nose?
More here:
“German media also published the interview with some publications like Die Welt offering similar coverage to their U.S. and UK media counterparts while the English-language version of Handelsblatt ran a headline claiming the Ambassador was seeking “regime change”, despite this not having been said, nor anything even remotely close to this being suggested by Grenell. Having claimed Grenell wanted to seek “regime change” in the headline, the paper then credited the controversial term in their copy to a comment from a member of the far-left German Die Linke party.
“After criticism, Handelsblatt subsequently removed the quote from their headline.”
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Here’s the link to the ACTUAL article that is making pearl-clutching liberals lose their shit. That would be the article that The Independent conveniently failed to link in their “report.” It’s a v-e-r-y short article, takes about a minute to read:
And here are ALL of the ambassador (Grenells)’s DEPLORABLE and SCANDALOUS comments, VERBATIM:
“There are a lot of conservatives throughout Europe who have contacted me to say they are feeling there is a resurgence going on.”
“I absolutely want to empower other conservatives throughout Europe, other leaders. I think there is a groundswell of conservative policies that are taking hold because of the failed policies of the left.”
“There’s no question about that and it’s an exciting time for me. I look across the landscape and we’ve got a lot of work to do but I think the election of Donald Trump has empowered individuals and people to say that they can’t just allow the political class to determine before an election takes place, who’s going to win and who should run.” [...]
“That’s a very powerful moment when you can grasp the ability to see past the group-think of a very small elitist crowd telling you you have no chance to win or you’ll never win, or they mock you early on.” [...]
Unafraid to name names, Mr Grenell expressed a deep respect and admiration for the young Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz saying, “Look, I think Sebastian Kurz is a rockstar. I’m a big fan.”
That’s it. ALL of it. OMG, crisis!!!!! Expel this man, IMMEDIATELY, ffs.
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Not exactly U.S. politics, but not irrelevant in this time & place. A very under-the-radar story that globalists and liberals in the press — the Trump-hating American press especially — aren’t in an especially big hurry to report. Just a few days ago Turkey completed construction of a 764-KM border wall with Syria. They’re going to complete their wall along the Iranian border by the end of next year. It was paid by the European Union. Something to consider the next time you hear globalists and liberals insisting that Trump’s wall will never work, it’s too costly, too fascistic, too xenophobic, etc.
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@salacious-crumb said in US Politics:
Not exactly U.S. politics, but not irrelevant in this time & place. A very under-the-radar story that globalists and liberals in the press — the Trump-hating American press especially — aren’t in an especially big hurry to report. Just a few days ago Turkey completed construction of a 764-KM border wall with Syria. They’re going to complete their wall along the Iranian border by the end of next year. It was paid by the European Union. Something to consider the next time you hear globalists and liberals insisting that Trump’s wall will never work, it’s too costly, too fascistic, too xenophobic, etc.
Fake news! Only war criminal Israel builds walls to keep Arab nutters out. Everybody knows this.
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