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@no-quarter a great part of that interview was likening racism to smallpox and that racism ( even thoughts and private conversation) can be totally eradicated from society like smallpox has been. The left narrative thinks all racism can be " cured".
Wrong approach.
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@majorrage said in US Politics:
And that ain't fair to the genuine people with real race related situation. (Diane Abbot exempted, obviously).
You got an example?
Not wishing to be provocative mate but after years of wistful nodding that systemic racism exists in the West, I'm wondering where this smoking canon is.
Actually I'd like to know, almost hope to see examples of real racism to validate the narrative, so I know I'm not being blindly contrarian
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@siam said in US Politics:
@majorrage said in US Politics:
And that ain't fair to the genuine people with real race related situation. (Diane Abbot exempted, obviously).
You got an example?
Not wishing to be provocative mate but after years of wistful nodding that systemic racism exists in the West, I'm wondering where this smoking canon is.
Actually I'd like to know, almost hope to see examples of real racism to validate the narrative, so I know I'm not being blindly contrarian
Totally agree with this mate. Seems almost like something you have to say because it's the done thing. The desperate and psychotic attempts to find and even redefine racism would be a pretty good indication that racism is barely on life support in most of the West. Judging by the banter between my son and his very multicultural group of friends, the word racism is fast becoming a big joke.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in US Politics:
@siam said in US Politics:
@majorrage said in US Politics:
And that ain't fair to the genuine people with real race related situation. (Diane Abbot exempted, obviously).
You got an example?
Not wishing to be provocative mate but after years of wistful nodding that systemic racism exists in the West, I'm wondering where this smoking canon is.
Actually I'd like to know, almost hope to see examples of real racism to validate the narrative, so I know I'm not being blindly contrarian
Totally agree with this mate. Seems almost like something you have to say because it's the done thing. The desperate and psychotic attempts to find and even redefine racism would be a pretty good indication that racism is barely on life support in most of the West. Judging by the banter between my son and his very multicultural group of friends, the word racism is fast becoming a big joke.
Every time my kids say the word black or white, one of them instantly calls the other racist. They are 7 and 9, and apparently it is a 'thing' at school to do this.
I quite like it so play along. -
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel said in US Politics:
@siam said in US Politics:
@majorrage said in US Politics:
And that ain't fair to the genuine people with real race related situation. (Diane Abbot exempted, obviously).
You got an example?
Not wishing to be provocative mate but after years of wistful nodding that systemic racism exists in the West, I'm wondering where this smoking canon is.
Actually I'd like to know, almost hope to see examples of real racism to validate the narrative, so I know I'm not being blindly contrarian
Totally agree with this mate. Seems almost like something you have to say because it's the done thing. The desperate and psychotic attempts to find and even redefine racism would be a pretty good indication that racism is barely on life support in most of the West. Judging by the banter between my son and his very multicultural group of friends, the word racism is fast becoming a big joke.
Every time my kids say the word black or white, one of them instantly calls the other racist. They are 7 and 9, and apparently it is a 'thing' at school to do this.
I quite like it so play along.Yep, but not just that. If one accuses the other of anything, for example forgetting to bring something, they will accuse the other of racism.
My eldest also has an ongoing banter with one of my best mates (who is Malaysian Chinese). My mate often lightly teases him and my son always responds with accusations of racism. They both find it hilarious.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel said in US Politics:
@siam said in US Politics:
@majorrage said in US Politics:
And that ain't fair to the genuine people with real race related situation. (Diane Abbot exempted, obviously).
You got an example?
Not wishing to be provocative mate but after years of wistful nodding that systemic racism exists in the West, I'm wondering where this smoking canon is.
Actually I'd like to know, almost hope to see examples of real racism to validate the narrative, so I know I'm not being blindly contrarian
Totally agree with this mate. Seems almost like something you have to say because it's the done thing. The desperate and psychotic attempts to find and even redefine racism would be a pretty good indication that racism is barely on life support in most of the West. Judging by the banter between my son and his very multicultural group of friends, the word racism is fast becoming a big joke.
Every time my kids say the word black or white, one of them instantly calls the other racist. They are 7 and 9, and apparently it is a 'thing' at school to do this.
I quite like it so play along.Play along, or take part to stir the shit out of the Pot!!!
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@majorrage ha ha no one is offering odds on the latter 😁😁
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@siam said in US Politics:
@majorrage said in US Politics:
And that ain't fair to the genuine people with real race related situation. (Diane Abbot exempted, obviously).
You got an example?
Not wishing to be provocative mate but after years of wistful nodding that systemic racism exists in the West, I'm wondering where this smoking canon is.
Actually I'd like to know, almost hope to see examples of real racism to validate the narrative, so I know I'm not being blindly contrarian
You do help make my point for me here, although I’m not naive enough to say no racism exists in the west
A good example is in City of London there are people who research why so few African /Caribbean ppl hold senior positions. These guys aren’t looking for racism, they are looking for cultural things. But the twitter mob jump on the stats like rabid dogs and go nuts.
They think they are raising awareness, but instead are just turning ppl off
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@rancid-schnitzel said in US Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel said in US Politics:
@siam said in US Politics:
@majorrage said in US Politics:
And that ain't fair to the genuine people with real race related situation. (Diane Abbot exempted, obviously).
You got an example?
Not wishing to be provocative mate but after years of wistful nodding that systemic racism exists in the West, I'm wondering where this smoking canon is.
Actually I'd like to know, almost hope to see examples of real racism to validate the narrative, so I know I'm not being blindly contrarian
Totally agree with this mate. Seems almost like something you have to say because it's the done thing. The desperate and psychotic attempts to find and even redefine racism would be a pretty good indication that racism is barely on life support in most of the West. Judging by the banter between my son and his very multicultural group of friends, the word racism is fast becoming a big joke.
Every time my kids say the word black or white, one of them instantly calls the other racist. They are 7 and 9, and apparently it is a 'thing' at school to do this.
I quite like it so play along.Yep, but not just that. If one accuses the other of anything, for example forgetting to bring something, they will accuse the other of racism.
My eldest also has an ongoing banter with one of my best mates (who is Malaysian Chinese). My mate often lightly teases him and my son always responds with accusations of racism. They both find it hilarious.
Gold!
However I do wonder if we might be getting to the point where actual occurrences of racism are ignored because of so many fake examples.
Same too with #metoo mania. At this point a woman claiming sexual assault could mean anything from 'regretting sleeping with an uggo', 'drunk but consensual', 'I found out he was a republican', 'he didn't want to date me anymore', 'an awkward teenage boy going in for a kiss and being denied'- right through to actual assault and rape. No one is winning in this situation.
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Today’s “Kanye visits the Oval Office and drops mother-eff bombs” is melting down the puritanical snowflakes on CNN and MSNBC. The libs cannot stomach any of it. It’s hilarious. They’re calling him “mentally ill,” a “white negro,” a “minstrel show for whites,” and a “white supremacist.” Kid Rock and Jim Brown (still the greatest NFL player of All-Time) (“Make sure when anyone tackles you he remembers how much it hurts”) were also hanging out.
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@salacious-crumb said in US Politics:
Today’s “Kanye visits the Oval Office and drops mother-eff bombs” is melting down the puritanical snowflakes on CNN and MSNBC. The libs cannot stomach any of it. It’s hilarious. Kid Rock and Jim Brown (still the greatest NFL player of All-Time) (“Make sure when anyone tackles you he remembers how much it hurts”) were also hanging out.
It is apparent that those stations hate nothing more (including Trump even) than a black that goes off the script.
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@majorrage said in US Politics:
@siam said in US Politics:
@majorrage said in US Politics:
And that ain't fair to the genuine people with real race related situation. (Diane Abbot exempted, obviously).
You got an example?
Not wishing to be provocative mate but after years of wistful nodding that systemic racism exists in the West, I'm wondering where this smoking canon is.
Actually I'd like to know, almost hope to see examples of real racism to validate the narrative, so I know I'm not being blindly contrarian
You do help make my point for me here, although I’m not naive enough to say no racism exists in the west
A good example is in City of London there are people who research why so few African /Caribbean ppl hold senior positions. These guys aren’t looking for racism, they are looking for cultural things. But the twitter mob jump on the stats like rabid dogs and go nuts.
They think they are raising awareness, but instead are just turning ppl off
We must be at cross purposes.
I agree with the banality of Twitter mobs.
You said "and that ain't fair to the people with real race related situation", which I took to mean real racial issues in the West.
What examples are there of these real race related situation?
For instance in Thailand there is definite systemic racism against Karen and Rohingya people (among others). They get denied basic rights due solely to their ethnicity.
As I said, happy to be wrong but apart from individual preferences, what's the concrete evidence for real systemic racism?
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@baron-silas-greenback said in US Politics:
It is apparent that those stations hate nothing more (including Trump even) than a black that goes off the script.
Tucker Carlson is on it. His lead story tonight:
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I'm sure the same people questioning KW's sanity were hammering him when he accused GGeorge Bush of hating black people during a programme to raise money for the victims of Hurricane Katrina? Or not.
By the same token, I'm sure plenty of Republicans who rubbished West back then are now embracing him. Plenty of hypocrisy to go around.
At the end of the day the guy is a farking fruitloop. But certain people sure seem threatened by him.
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@siam said in US Politics:
We must be at cross purposes.
I agree with the banality of Twitter mobs.
You said "and that ain't fair to the people with real race related situation", which I took to mean real racial issues in the West.
What examples are there of these real race related situation?
For instance in Thailand there is definite systemic racism against Karen and Rohingya people (among others). They get denied basic rights due solely to their ethnicity.
As I said, happy to be wrong but apart from individual preferences, what's the concrete evidence for real systemic racism?
It's trotted out like it's obviously everywhereWe aren't poles apart. I generally think most people that do race related research / comparisons have their heart in the right place and do a good thing. What I'm talking about is when twitter mobs jump on this work and start splashing their ridiculous ideologies over it.
You do raise a great point though. The "west", being white countries, pretty much so take all the flak and criticism over racism ... yet, Asia, is far and away the most racist place on the planet. Alot of countries have laws written on racial lines, which are always detrimental to immigrants.
Can you imagine the outcry of Britain or the US did that?
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I remember Tucker as the "square" guy with a bow-tie on a show called Crossfire which Jon Stewart destroyed. I used to be more liberal. But I think this was just because I was politically ignorant and getting my opinions from a lot of liberal popular culture.
Now Tucker is a voice of reason. Case in point today about Kayne West and the Democrat assault on family values.
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@rembrandt said in US Politics:
It still blows be away that I quite like Tucker now..and that I actually have some time for Fox news. My former hero Jon Stewart must be rolling in his (relevance) grave
It's a pretty amazing turnaround considering how Stewart made him the subject of absolute ridicule back in the day. I viewed that clip recently and realised that as absurd Tucker looked with his bowtie and scowl, Stewart's argument was pretty ridiculous. It was basically "You guys are destroying political commentary. I'm not because I'm just a comedian." That was always his excuse: "I'm just a comedian." It was complete bs of course but just a convenient way for him to pretend he was above it all.
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Bowtie-era Tucker Carlson was a buffoon, but the new Tucker Carlson is something closer to a National Treasure, at least as far as anything you see on American national cable TV news programming. What made Tucker a buffoon 15 years ago is the same thing that makes him Great today: The Iraq War. Back then he served as a CNN GOP propagandist stooge to sell the aluminum tubes and yellowcake. He believed in it and he sold it like an obedient servant. But almost uniquely on American newsers now, he’s about the only one to fess up and own it, apologise for it, ask forgiveness and promise he’ll never again meekly accept whatever BS his network shoves under his nose. He carries The Shame and doesn’t shirk from it. He Owns It. He got Mugged by Reality. It’s why he hasn’t bought Rooskiegate from Day One: Because it’s all smoke & mirrors and mass hysteria without any actual evidence, just more cartoon shows.
Anyway, Tucker was back at it tonight, defending Kanye and slamming hard headshots to Don Lemon. (Must admit, kinda funny how the youtube Play button makes his nose look like a clown.)
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