Grace Millane
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I wouldn't want to be on the jury making a decision based on the facts, which will no doubt outrage all of the completely uninformed people on social media unless they give him the harshest possible sentence.
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I don't think that alleged accused in high profile cases should have anymore rights than the rest of us.
BUT the NZ journalists are being very irresponsible (again) by revealing all these details about this guy when a suppression order is in place. Obviously they (the media) know how far they can go before the line is crossed.
I don't know why it isn't just age and sex that can be published. Otherwise name suppression is really worthless. It's like a game where all the clues are given to allow you to work out the final clue and solve the puzzle.
If anyone wants to know his name it is easy enough to find but his lawyer has plenty of ammunition to use for jury selection etc when the trial starts.
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@bovidae said in Grace Millane:
BUT the NZ journalists are being very irresponsible (again) by revealing all these details about this guy when a suppression order is in place. Obviously they (the media) know how far they can go before the line is crossed.
200 nautical miles?
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@taniwharugby Nah, legally. The UK papers have published his name and photo.
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@no-quarter said in Grace Millane:
Cynical question: do these vigils happen if we remove social media? Would so many be attending if they couldn't narcissistically post about it online?
Any of you old buggers remember anything like this happening before? The reaction seems way OTT given we never get vigils for, say, the innocent children that are regularly killed in domestic violence incidents.
(Edited but probably too late for anyone to take this post seriously now)
I doubt that there were vigils - though there might have been church services - but, I can still very clearly recall the Jennifer Beard murder, which the whole country followed avidly for months.
Somewhat similar background to Grace Millane's murder. Read a book about it years later and it seemed like the police had pretty much tracked the guy down who did it - though there were a couple of potential alternatives to confuse matters.
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@taniwharugby That sports rep article is fucking irresponsible for several reasons. As others have said, compromising the suppression order and giving ammunition to the defence lawyer. But also, now people start looking at all the men who are 26 and have repped in sport at a national level. And that fucking sucks. (Besides the fact that his sporting past have no relevance to this case whatsoever.)
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@chris-b Police interviewed the owner of my local Dairy several times for the Baird murder. He was a very very strange and disturbing individual.
WE ALL KNEW HE FUCKING DID IT
Or at least were certain enough not to buy loose sweets from his shop
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Apparently we all see a little bit of ourselves in Grace.
Um , ok.
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My sincere condolences to Grace's family and friends. What a horrible thing to happen to a young woman. May justice be done and may she then rest in peace.
There is something spineless, absurd and slightly sinister about the NZ media not releasing information that is freely available online or has been in almost every UK paper. Free societies depend on the free press to function.
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@sparky said in Grace Millane:
My deep condolences to Grace's family and friends. What a horrible thing to happen to a young woman. May justice be done and may she then rest in peace.
There is something spineless and slightly sinister about the NZ media not releasing information that is freely available online or has been in almost every UK paper. Free societies depend on the free press to function.
Well no cos it might fuck the case against him completely. They're actually trying to do the right thing.
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@sparky it is illegal for them to release the information in NZ, so they are complying and that makes them sinister and spineless..??
YOu may have heard of that presumption of innocence until proven guilty?
Think of all the sinister people out there that might do things to his family based on the Newspapers naming and shaming him as guilty.