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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
Seems like a lone wolf. Will be interesting to see if the media will go along with that narrative.
A foreign lone wolf, who chose us as a soft target.
Without taking away from the fact that we have issues in our society we need to address, a foreigner shooting people here does not indicate that we are breeding or tolerating madmen like this fella.
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"Detectives are investigating an alleged far-right terror attack in Surrey after a teenager was stabbed amid a spate of racist incidents across Britain which came in the wake of the New Zealand massacre.
Politicians and police have condemned the attacks and said extremism has no place in British society.
The 19-year-old victim was said to have been attacked by a man armed with a knife and a baseball bat who it is claimed was heard shouting racist comments.
The incident took place in Stanwell at around 10.30pm on Saturday night and the victim was rushed to hospital with what police said were non-life threatening injuries
Detectives in Whitechapel, east London were investigating a serious assault on a 27-year-old man who was attacked by three people who had been making anti-Muslim comments.
Three people were also in custody in Manchester following incidents in which allegedly offensive remarks were made to people in relation to the New Zealand terror attack.
A 33-year-old woman and a 34-year-old man were arrested on suspicion of racially aggravated public order offences after a taxi driver was allegedly threatened and abused.
Separately a 39-year-old woman from Rochdale and a 24-year-old man from Oldham were arrested on suspicion of posting offensive comments online about the New Zealand atrocity.
And in Oxford, Nazi swastikas were sprayed on the wall of school, along with comments which appeared to be a reference to the Christchurch shootings."
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Police raid Australian home of accused's sister
Counter-terrorism police are currently at the home of Brenton Tarrant's sister in Sandy Beach, near Coffs Harbour on the New South Wales north coast. There is a heavy police presence at the house, Nine News reports.
Police raided the home about 8.30am AEDT (10:30am NZDT) on Monday, and shortly later executed a search warrant at a home in Lawrence.
New South Wales Police said there was no information to suggest there was an impending threat to the community related to those searches.
In a statement, police said the aim of the search was to formally obtain material that could help New Zealand Police.
Tarrant's family has been assisting police with their inquiries.
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@dogmeat said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
One was a guy who took a gun with him to go pick up his kid
The other were a couple in a car. She's been released He faces firearm charges. Another guy was arrested in a car that that contained firearms. Apparently none of the three had anything to do with the mosque gunman
I saw a video on Stuff, I think it was John Campbell (?) interviewing the neighbour who said he saw four people in the car. Maybe a false memory? Maybe he had the wrong perp and car? He said he made direct locked eye contact with the psycho for 5-6 seconds while he was loading his gun. Maybe the guy is traumatised and doesn’t know jack??
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@Salacious-Crumb I get that Campbell is a knob but labelling him a psycho is going a bit far - even though I can appreciate you would be traumatised if Goofy shoved a mike in your face.
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@Paekakboyz Left hand, right hand, doesn't matter bro, I'm amphibious!!
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@nzzp I've seen some stuff on Social Media, from some very intelligent people claiming this was an 'I told you so' moment; Waititi said NZ was racist, no one believed him...we told you NZ was racist, no one believed us...
That idiot Samoan Eliota whatever his name is is fanning the flames.
I expect NZ, has pockets of racist cnuts, but by and large are a tolerant society, although guys like Eliota show that racism works both ways, even if he is ignorant to his racism.
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
interviewing the neighbour
neighbour of the mosque?
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This article makes a salient point. Do black Christian lives matter less?
Obviously to New Zelaanders at the moment .. yes! But the world media? Supposedly liberal and hating of racism? -
@Duluth said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Salacious-Crumb said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
interviewing the neighbour
neighbour of the mosque?
Yes. Neighbour lives a hundred yards from mosque, claims he saw the killer with three other people in car prior to shooting.
I did a search for the vid at Stuff but can’t find it. I searched through many many pages to locate, but they’ve likely removed and it’s now down the rabbit-hole.
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213752
Looks like he's going to try and follow the lead of that Norwegian nutter. Should have a closed trial
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@Salacious-Crumb the shooters video showed only himself and no real room in the car for passengers.
Apparently studies show eye witness accounts to be incredibly inaccurate.
Probably just that, then magnified by unconfirmed media reports
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
Yes. Neighbour lives a hundred yards from mosque, claims he saw the killer with three other people in car prior to shooting.
I did a search for the vid at Stuff but can’t find it.
Which sounds like a mistaken memory. There's video of him pulling up and parking. He's the only one in the car
It's also suspicious that the number of people witnessed matched the number of arrests. Despite the two other arrests being unrelated and at different locations
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
This article makes a salient point. Do black Christian lives matter less?
Obviously to New Zelaanders at the moment .. yes! But the world media? Supposedly liberal and hating of racism?What about 5 weeks ago in our general region?
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it would surely have to be a fairly small circle of people in the know, be very tough to keep it all under the radar otherwise.
As for the fuckstick defending himself, what a cnut...guess it saves the taxpayer a few dollars in legal aid bills before wasting more taxpayer dollars feeding, clothing and housing him for the rest of his life.
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Finally finished reading all of this. Good to get a sense of what was going on as it was happening live. I'm no fan of Cindy but from everyone's account on here it seems she did well under some pretty horrifying circumstances so credit where credit is due. This to seal her re-election maybe?
Think I might avoid facebook for a while. People are in shock and lashing out, there's almost a sick satisfaction from many thinking this proves their theory of a white supremacist NZ just as there is when there is an islamic terror attack and it confirms theories of islamic aggression. I guess that is natural but damn its a hell of a thing to vocalise.
The faux virtue signalling by celebs just wanting more time in the limelight over this tragedy is sickening but pales in comparison to politicians jumping on it before the bodies are even cold. Even if Anning's argument had some merit to make the statement when he did just proves just how callous and out-of-touch with humanity this guy is.
The real question now is how on earth do we stop this these tragedies from recurring? Can we put in place ideas that will actually do good or are we forever hamstrung in our current political environment to only do things that make us feel good?
Stronger gun laws may help prevent a carbon copy of this but will it tackle the larger issue? This terrorist clearly does not see certain people as humans, he's clearly a driven ideologue, if a semi-automatic wasn't available would he have have carried out the attack through other means? I'd venture he would, I've not read his 'manifesto' or whatever it is yet but I understand the choice of using firearms was intentional for the political effect it would generate, and it looks like he'll achieve that goal. Removing semi-automatic access may reduce the scale of future individual attacks many years from now as the weapons become less available but will it reduce the number of attacks? Surely these same driven people will move to other firearms, or knives, or arson, or vehicles. If we don't start addressing underlying issues are we just putting a feel-good plaster on a festering wound?
I know our mainstream media who still sadly drive much public opinion is completely unwilling to allow for mature, nuanced discussions preferring instead to paint the world as black and white and full of outrage. Until their influence goes I can't see us making any progress on this and if politicians follow their lead we're in real trouble.
Once I find it I'm going to have a read of the manifesto to try and get an understanding of this guy, I understand why the video is being suppressed but I think it is a mistake hiding this document. It needs to be available so people can pick it apart, argue against his claims maybe try and get some insight as to what we can do to stop this from happening again. I'd much rather that than it be given some holy power as some forbidden document for pockets of people on the fringes of society to have access to without the ability to hear a concise counter-argument against it.
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