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This shit gets on my tits.
I think that any reasonable person overseas would read this AP article here, and deduce that there is a major problem in Christchurch, from the three examples given in this article.
But they'd be wrong (Or at least misleaded), because I'm pretty sure that each example (see italicized below) is from the same lame excuse for a person - and it's either deliberate misreporting (see bold text) or uselessness:
“They’ve been quieter recently but they haven’t gone away. They are still here,” he said, citing a 2016 incident in which pigs’ heads were left at the Al Noor mosque, where 42 people died in Friday’s massacre.
A business owner in Christchurch has also attracted media attention since the massacre because his company’s vans were emblazoned with neo-Nazi references including the “black sun” symbol that Tarrant’s guns were covered with. The same images, which are used as the company’s branding, appear on its website.
When AP visited the registered business address, located in one of Christchurch’s poorer neighborhoods, three of its vans were parked opposite, their “black sun” imagery removed but still identifiable by a company website address on them. A visibly hostile man standing beside the vans, who did not appear to be the business owner, did not want to answer questions.
Police on Tuesday said they had arrested a 44-year-old man in Christchurch for distributing objectionable material and he would appear in court the next day.
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Random thoughts...
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Am not a fan of the concept of not naming or speaking the name of the perpetrator. I kind of understand the sentiment but I disagree. Naming him allows us to identify the enemy, and know who isn't evil.
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Interesting how often the picture of the blonde cop with the assault rifle has shown up. Am pretty sure it was on about 80% media outlets Friday evening, and has shown up multiple times since. Not sure if this is the woke media showing how empowered modern women are, or the misogynistic media perving.
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Amazed at how slow the ABC were at reporting anything on Friday. Plugged in to News Radio, who were obviously taking the News 24 TV feed, for the majority of Friday afternoon, occasionally checking Herald and Stuff. Things were getting reported on NZ sites hours before the ABC even speculated. Quite disappointing performance by a national broadcaster.
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Just watching Mike Bush on tele. 5mins 39secs from first call to arrival at site. Suspect arrested with 21 mins. Top work NZ Police.
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@booboo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
Random thoughts...
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Am not a fan of the concept of not naming or speaking the name of the perpetrator. I kind of understand the sentiment but I disagree. Naming him allows us to identify the enemy, and know who isn't evil.
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Interesting how often the picture of the blonde cop with the assault rifle has shown up. Am pretty sure it was on about 80% media outlets Friday evening, and has shown up multiple times since. **Not sure if this is the woke media showing how empowered modern women are, or the misogynistic media perving.
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Amazed at how slow the ABC were at reporting anything on Friday. Plugged in to News Radio, who were obviously taking the News 24 TV feed, for the majority of Friday afternoon, occasionally checking Herald and Stuff. Things were getting reported on NZ sites hours before the ABC even speculated. Quite disappointing performance by a national broadcaster.
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Just watching Mike Bush on tele. 5mins 39secs from first call to arrival at site. Suspect arrested with 21 mins. Top work NZ Police.
Well I'm sure each side is suitably offended no matter what the view....
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@canefan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
That guy really does deserve to rot in Hell, then die
Bloody hell. Still can't process seeing a three year old on that list having been hunted down by the killer.
The PM does have it right in being determined not to mention the killer's name. Whatever it takes to avoid giving him anything that he craves.
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I kind of get the articles and photos about the victims but I can’t help feel at times it’s click bait. I think victims names and a short blurb would get way fewer clicks than photos of the victims. Are the photos really needed??
Totally agree with not naming the guy. Bread & water, no internet, no tv, no newspapers, copy of the Koran and the Bible and greatest accordeon hits piped in from dawn to dusk, interspersed with excerpts from classic choral masterpieces.
In an ideal world he would be dropped at a rate of 1 cm a minute into a vat of boiling oil but the world is not ideal.
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Ms Ardern also defended her call not to refer to the suspect by name.
"One of his goals... was that he sought notoriety and we will absolutely deny him that," she said.I worry that she didn't read what he wrote. As tempting as it might be to write him off as an insane person I would think there is at least some value for people in authority in trying to understand why he did this. I don't know why she'd lie about that. Every chance of course that she has been misquoted too.
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@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
Ms Ardern also defended her call not to refer to the suspect by name.
"One of his goals... was that he sought notoriety and we will absolutely deny him that," she said.I worry that she didn't read what he wrote. As tempting as it might be to write him off as an insane person I would think there is at least some value for people in authority in trying to understand why he did this. I don't know why she'd lie about that. Every chance of course that she has been misquoted too.
Why does not mentioning him by name in public mean that the authorities won't pick apart his every move?
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I'm going to be very specific and careful with this comment and am mindful I have preconcieved notions about both people...
But reading the story about the Project calling out Australian PM Scott Morrison was this nugget
“If anything paints a clearer picture on the state of Australian politics today it is this; after Waleed made that genuine, thoughtful, and reasoned contribution on Friday night — a plea for our community to come together — the Prime Minister of our country threatened to sue,” Macdonald said.
“In contrast, New Zealand’s Prime Minister invited Waleed to her country to sit down for an interview.Ardern has done a pretty admiral job so far IMO, but I really have to question what value does actively seeking out a sit down interview with a foreign journalist have at this point other than vanity and virtue signalling?
I may be reading too much into it and I absolutely have a preconceived notion about her motivations after the baby and UN antics, but to me a sit down interview for a leader with a foreign journo a week out from something like this seems... odd?
Have a press conference every day for the next fortnight, but this? Nah.
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@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
Ms Ardern also defended her call not to refer to the suspect by name.
"One of his goals... was that he sought notoriety and we will absolutely deny him that," she said.I worry that she didn't read what he wrote. As tempting as it might be to write him off as an insane person I would think there is at least some value for people in authority in trying to understand why he did this. I don't know why she'd lie about that. Every chance of course that she has been misquoted too.
I doubt it is a misquote as it was said it parliament wasn't it? Hansard is usually pretty accurate.
I don't get how you would jump to that conclusion anyway. Whether she read every word or took a briefing from analysts (police, political and others) she has judged the conclusion sound.
It isn't difficult to have observed how previous mass murderers and terrorists have 'enjoyed' their notoriety subsequent to the act and I applaud the take to say fuck you! Narcissism, stupidity and their enabling vehicles of social media combined in making this situation. Let's not give them any oxygen. -
@canefan It was more her comment on his goal. His stated goal was actually the opposite of what she said. Probably not best on this thread right now though to discuss.
I've just arrived back in NZ and it really is everywhere. Been hearing some good stories about people offering up their cars to Mosque attendees who can't get theirs due to the scene examination. That's the kind of stuff I want to see pushed by our media, not the crap that is going to make the situation worse
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@Rembrandt said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@canefan It was more her comment on his goal. His stated goal was actually the opposite of what she said. Probably not best on this thread right now though to discuss.
I've just arrived back in NZ and it really is everywhere. Been hearing some good stories about people offering up their cars to Mosque attendees who can't get theirs due to the scene examination. That's the kind of stuff I want to see pushed by our media, not the crap that is going to make the situation worse
Unity stories are a tonic right now, that is for sure
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There’s a vigil/remembrance thing planned for tomorrow in London. Keeping a close eye on whether to go or not as everything around NZ House is on high security due to fuckwits claiming they are looking for retribution.
My suggestion is a big sign saying Australia House that way➡️
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