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Fuck off Shorten!!!
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Antony Green has called a Coalition Victory. I have a massive shit eating grin on my face right now.
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Classic.
The Abbott loses to the Stegall's Chicken but Coalition win. Holy shit the knives will be out for Shorten now. This will be savage.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
I think you’ll find she retired quite a while back and even when there she was just a newsreader reading someone else’s words. No editorial input.
Jumping at shadows?No, just stating facts. If you seriously think SBS isn't biased then I'm sure you believe Fox News is actually fair and balanced.
Maybe so but that is an unrelated comment to the tweet you jumped all over.
An ex SBS autocue reader posts a nasty tweet and that proves bias from the channel? Yeah right.No, it's completely fair. Her tweet totally reflects the views openly expoused by SBS. I'm sorry if that's too hard for you to swallow. What would you know about it anyway. You probably never even watched SBS.
No, it’s following your logic that I am finding hard.
I do know about SBS. I have lived in Australia and I understand they can be perceived to have a bias just (as you mention) others do.
Is it really that difficult to admit that your original post was off the mark? -
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
I think you’ll find she retired quite a while back and even when there she was just a newsreader reading someone else’s words. No editorial input.
Jumping at shadows?No, just stating facts. If you seriously think SBS isn't biased then I'm sure you believe Fox News is actually fair and balanced.
Maybe so but that is an unrelated comment to the tweet you jumped all over.
An ex SBS autocue reader posts a nasty tweet and that proves bias from the channel? Yeah right.No, it's completely fair. Her tweet totally reflects the views openly expoused by SBS. I'm sorry if that's too hard for you to swallow. What would you know about it anyway. You probably never even watched SBS.
No, it’s following your logic that I am finding hard.
I do know about SBS. I have lived in Australia and I understand they can be perceived to have a bias just (as you mention) others do.
Is it really that difficult to admit that your original post was off the mark?How was my post off the mark Crucial? SBS is know for its bias and this woman was one of the faces of SBS for decades. And why on earth do you even care?
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Cudos to Morrison btw. Turnbull would have led the LNP to a massacre. I thought Morrison might just save the furniture but he's done much more. At the end of the day though I guess Shorten is just a really unlikeable person.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
I think you’ll find she retired quite a while back and even when there she was just a newsreader reading someone else’s words. No editorial input.
Jumping at shadows?No, just stating facts. If you seriously think SBS isn't biased then I'm sure you believe Fox News is actually fair and balanced.
Maybe so but that is an unrelated comment to the tweet you jumped all over.
An ex SBS autocue reader posts a nasty tweet and that proves bias from the channel? Yeah right.No, it's completely fair. Her tweet totally reflects the views openly expoused by SBS. I'm sorry if that's too hard for you to swallow. What would you know about it anyway. You probably never even watched SBS.
No, it’s following your logic that I am finding hard.
I do know about SBS. I have lived in Australia and I understand they can be perceived to have a bias just (as you mention) others do.
Is it really that difficult to admit that your original post was off the mark?How was my post off the mark Crucial? SBS is know for its bias and this woman was one of the faces of SBS for decades. And why on earth do you even care?
The second question is just bizarre. This is a discussion forum and I am discussing.
As I said, I don't get your logic that an ex employee of an organisation who, during her tenure, had no editorial or direction say, is an example of organisational and editorial bias.
You clearly made a mistake in the first place, not realising she doesn't work for them anymore and are now being pig headed about it.
By all means find examples of SBS being biased and make them relevant to the discussion at hand, but this was about her nasty tweet and you joined it to an unrelated point you wanted to make
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Bill Shorten concedes and announces he'll step down as leader.
Even in his speech he fails to display an iota of charisma. Think of Bob Hawke and Bill Shorten is an antonym.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
Bill Shorten concedes and announces he'll step down as leader.
Even in his speech he fails to display an iota of charisma. Think of Bob Hawke and Bill Shorten is an antonym.
Even for Labor there is a distinct lack of graciousness in defeat from Shorten in concession and Wong on the ABC panel (particularly when contrasted with Sinodinous)
Shorten may looked like chopped liver now, but I see a bit of 80's Howard in him. Charisma vacuum, but he is a tragic and a political animal - I would not be surprised to see if he resurfaces eventually.
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Still wondering about the polling industry? Beginning to think they’re next to useless — until they can calculate and account for the effect of self-censorship in the culture.
Is it a possibility that a good % of people are fed-up with p.c. sjw lynch mob cancel-culture and won’t tell strangers what they think, not even in a confidential opinion poll? Especially in a climate where speaking your religious views can get you sacked from your job??
The only poll that matters is the one a voter answers in the voting booth.
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Since living in Straya I have noticed that the politicians are very much inclined to react to opinion polls. Party leaders seem to get rolled if the polling is bad. But the polls have often predicted one thing but come the election (at both State and Federal level) the result is different. So what's the point of pandering to distorted numbers?
@Salacious-Crumb makes a good point that today's electorate reacts differently to 20years ago.
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@Donsteppa said in Aussie Politics:
The weird thing is that socially desirable responding to polls/researchers isn’t new, I can remember reading papers about it 20 years ago. Some polling companies certainly aren’t spending any of their fees on modelling it...
Yeah it was noted back in the 90s in the Uk where they called it the shy tory effect. Not surprising they got it wrong again, I'd imagine there's a layer of the Christchurch/Neve effect in our polls too but when it comes to election day the results would be a bit different.
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@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
Since living in Straya I have noticed that the politicians are very much inclined to react to opinion polls. Party leaders seem to get rolled if the polling is bad. But the polls have often predicted one thing but come the election (at both State and Federal level) the result is different. So what's the point of pandering to distorted numbers?
@Salacious-Crumb makes a good point that today's electorate reacts differently to 20years ago.
Very similar here, also they tend to overestimate how popularity on social media actually compares to their popularity in the real world where people pay taxes, mortgages etc.
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Just had a look at the planet rugby aussie politics thread, the two biggest labor supporters seem to be two haughty sanctimonious expat kiwis and their disbelief is amusing to see. I'll drop by to watch them work through the seven stages of grief . Theres a bit of anger for people voting with "their hip pocket" which is reminiscent of Laila Harre whining after the Alliance got the arse that people "voted with their heads, not with their hearts.
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@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
I think you’ll find she retired quite a while back and even when there she was just a newsreader reading someone else’s words. No editorial input.
Jumping at shadows?No, just stating facts. If you seriously think SBS isn't biased then I'm sure you believe Fox News is actually fair and balanced.
Maybe so but that is an unrelated comment to the tweet you jumped all over.
An ex SBS autocue reader posts a nasty tweet and that proves bias from the channel? Yeah right.No, it's completely fair. Her tweet totally reflects the views openly expoused by SBS. I'm sorry if that's too hard for you to swallow. What would you know about it anyway. You probably never even watched SBS.
No, it’s following your logic that I am finding hard.
I do know about SBS. I have lived in Australia and I understand they can be perceived to have a bias just (as you mention) others do.
Is it really that difficult to admit that your original post was off the mark?How was my post off the mark Crucial? SBS is know for its bias and this woman was one of the faces of SBS for decades. And why on earth do you even care?
The second question is just bizarre. This is a discussion forum and I am discussing.
As I said, I don't get your logic that an ex employee of an organisation who, during her tenure, had no editorial or direction say, is an example of organisational and editorial bias.
You clearly made a mistake in the first place, not realising she doesn't work for them anymore and are now being pig headed about it.
By all means find examples of SBS being biased and make them relevant to the discussion at hand, but this was about her nasty tweet and you joined it to an unrelated point you wanted to make
Not really. As you may have noticed, there has been an election in Australia but you're far more invested in trying to argue that SBS lady is not a symptom of their bias. Now read carefully. There has been much gnashing of teeth about the Murdoch press. I agree that they're generally shit and biased. But as that tweet from a woman who was one of the highest profile SBS employees demonstrates, there are taxpayer funded medial outlets that are just as bad if not worse. Now you can desperately try to claim that she is an outlier and in no way reflects the views of that organisation, but that would be like claiming the sky is green.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
I think you’ll find she retired quite a while back and even when there she was just a newsreader reading someone else’s words. No editorial input.
Jumping at shadows?No, just stating facts. If you seriously think SBS isn't biased then I'm sure you believe Fox News is actually fair and balanced.
Maybe so but that is an unrelated comment to the tweet you jumped all over.
An ex SBS autocue reader posts a nasty tweet and that proves bias from the channel? Yeah right.No, it's completely fair. Her tweet totally reflects the views openly expoused by SBS. I'm sorry if that's too hard for you to swallow. What would you know about it anyway. You probably never even watched SBS.
No, it’s following your logic that I am finding hard.
I do know about SBS. I have lived in Australia and I understand they can be perceived to have a bias just (as you mention) others do.
Is it really that difficult to admit that your original post was off the mark?How was my post off the mark Crucial? SBS is know for its bias and this woman was one of the faces of SBS for decades. And why on earth do you even care?
The second question is just bizarre. This is a discussion forum and I am discussing.
As I said, I don't get your logic that an ex employee of an organisation who, during her tenure, had no editorial or direction say, is an example of organisational and editorial bias.
You clearly made a mistake in the first place, not realising she doesn't work for them anymore and are now being pig headed about it.
By all means find examples of SBS being biased and make them relevant to the discussion at hand, but this was about her nasty tweet and you joined it to an unrelated point you wanted to make
Not really. As you may have noticed, there has been an election in Australia but you're far more invested in trying to argue that SBS lady is not a symptom of their bias. Now read carefully. There has been much gnashing of teeth about the Murdoch press. I agree that they're generally shit and biased. But as that tweet from a woman who was one of the highest profile SBS employees demonstrates, there are taxpayer funded medial outlets that are just as bad if not worse. Now you can desperately try to claim that she is an outlier and in no way reflects the views of that organisation, but that would be like claiming the sky is green.
At the end of the day Abbott is still a dick, and both sides of the House are probably happy that he has gone. I always thought SBS were quite impartial, will watch now and try and pick out all of this obvious bias.
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@Nevorian said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Crucial said in Aussie Politics:
I think you’ll find she retired quite a while back and even when there she was just a newsreader reading someone else’s words. No editorial input.
Jumping at shadows?No, just stating facts. If you seriously think SBS isn't biased then I'm sure you believe Fox News is actually fair and balanced.
Maybe so but that is an unrelated comment to the tweet you jumped all over.
An ex SBS autocue reader posts a nasty tweet and that proves bias from the channel? Yeah right.No, it's completely fair. Her tweet totally reflects the views openly expoused by SBS. I'm sorry if that's too hard for you to swallow. What would you know about it anyway. You probably never even watched SBS.
No, it’s following your logic that I am finding hard.
I do know about SBS. I have lived in Australia and I understand they can be perceived to have a bias just (as you mention) others do.
Is it really that difficult to admit that your original post was off the mark?How was my post off the mark Crucial? SBS is know for its bias and this woman was one of the faces of SBS for decades. And why on earth do you even care?
The second question is just bizarre. This is a discussion forum and I am discussing.
As I said, I don't get your logic that an ex employee of an organisation who, during her tenure, had no editorial or direction say, is an example of organisational and editorial bias.
You clearly made a mistake in the first place, not realising she doesn't work for them anymore and are now being pig headed about it.
By all means find examples of SBS being biased and make them relevant to the discussion at hand, but this was about her nasty tweet and you joined it to an unrelated point you wanted to make
Not really. As you may have noticed, there has been an election in Australia but you're far more invested in trying to argue that SBS lady is not a symptom of their bias. Now read carefully. There has been much gnashing of teeth about the Murdoch press. I agree that they're generally shit and biased. But as that tweet from a woman who was one of the highest profile SBS employees demonstrates, there are taxpayer funded medial outlets that are just as bad if not worse. Now you can desperately try to claim that she is an outlier and in no way reflects the views of that organisation, but that would be like claiming the sky is green.
At the end of the day Abbott is still a dick, and both sides of the House are probably happy that he has gone. I always thought SBS were quite impartial, will watch now and try and pick out all of this obvious bias.
You do that. Might have to work through a few ahem "coming of age films" before you get their news content.
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