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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
@Nevorian said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
@Nevorian said in Aussie Politics:
@rotated I would say his "Shit happens" comment would probably stick out most clearly in my mind. But in the end it turned out knifing Turnbull in the back was a good thing for the LNP.
What was your issue with the "shit happens" comment?
I think a senior politician could have chosen more sensitive words to describe the reason for one of his soldiers deaths. Happy to disagree if you think otherwise.
The problem I have with that is he was receiving a briefing from the military explaining what happened. One of Murphy's Laws of combat is anything you do can get you killed, including nothing, i.e. even if your fieldcraft is up to scratch, sometimes it really doesn't matter; tragedies happen. It sucks, but that's how it is. The refrain "shit happens" is a common refrain in the military which is why Major General Cantwell (who was once my boss) replies immediately to Abbott: "It certainly does, yeah."
Good on you for recounting that accurately Antipodean.
The media goon who felt compelled to eavesdrop with the sole purpose of adding to the "Abbott Abbott Abbott!" dirt file deserved to pulled aside and kicked in the cods for his impudence. They are permitted to attend at the pleasure of the local commander on the understanding that they will comport themselves as mature adults, not grubby little schoolboys.
Mates of mine from Vietnam onwards despise the mongrels. I recall the reaction of one of them, a retired RSM, when we heard news of ABC Richard Carleton's death - we were standing at the bar of the Workers Club close by here on a Sunday afternoon and he murmured "Look I'll go out of turn and get the next shout if you don't mind, with whisky chasers. Best news I've heard all week."
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@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
So the two front runners for Labor Leader are from the NSW Left. One of them states that Labor didn't have enough time to explain to the electorate how they'd all benefit from Labor's policies.
Talk about doubling down on dumb.
Who dey?
At this stage maybe Albo and Plibersek. They're left leaning.
Another guy from the Hunter threw his hat in the ring today. Fitzgibbon? But more toward the centre (right of Labor)
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
So the two front runners for Labor Leader are from the NSW Left. One of them states that Labor didn't have enough time to explain to the electorate how they'd all benefit from Labor's policies.
Talk about doubling down on dumb.
Who dey?
At this stage maybe Albo and Plibersek. They're left leaning.
If Labor think the solution to their problems lies with the NSW Left, they're even more brain damaged than I thought.
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Mishel Laurie has a very misleading twitter profile pic, it effectively disguises her landwhale status .
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@antipodean my favourites are the clowns who say they are leaving the country and then don’t . It even happens in NZ , Alan Duff said he’d leave when Clark got in , then didn’t.
If Anika Moa says she’ll leave when National get in I’ll help the vile cretin pack .
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As sure as night follows day, as soon as a right of centre party beats a left of centre party in an election, then the supporters of said left of centre party will dub whole swathes of people, including entire states, as un-educated, ignorant, and selfish. They will unashamedly make claims about people falling for the other side's dirty scare campaign, about how people fell for soundbites rather than virtue, and make further claims about how this has set the country back years, as how could these people not feel the same as them?
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@jegga I’m sure for those that can’t stand the Project it makes it all the more sweeter seeing these little Twitter tanties.
Is my hope misguided in thinking the Project should censure her because of the insulting and offensive nature of the tweet 😎
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
Btw, what are the odds on the Stegall going a second term? The next Maxine McKee?
Comparable situation: Phelps about to hand Wentworth back to the Libs as the "Poor Malcolm" vibes wear off.
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Abbott is an interesting one. 'Dick' is not a great word to describe him, but certainly you have to consider why a man with his parliamentary and local service record (as Mick correctly points out) was voted out so comprehensively, in an election where the wider populace swung the other way.
I just think time passed him by. His electorate has shifted a bit to the left, while he himself has shifted a bit to the right. Climate change, gay marriage, even the leadership of the Liberal party. He slowly became a dinosaur in the eyes of his own people, and the sniping interviews with Ray Hadley and co probably didn't help either.
I think he'll be remembered as someone who could have achieved so much more than he did. His concession speech on Saturday night was the best I've ever seen - gracious, profound, incisive and compelling. It left me thinking 'where was this Tony for the past fifteen years?'.
He never came across as warm or likeable, though behind the scenes he clearly was those things. But he never had any real self-awareness, and never saw Turnbull's bullet coming at his head. A warts-and-all autobiography would be fascinating, but only if he develops that self-awareness.
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@barbarian I can give you 12.5 million reasons....
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
As sure as night follows day, as soon as a right of centre party beats a left of centre party in an election, then the supporters of said left of centre party will dub whole swathes of people, including entire states, as un-educated, ignorant, and selfish.
But its Queensland so they've got a point
Adani will be a very interesting for both the state Labor and Fed Liberal to deal with in the next couple of years (next QLD election late 2020?).
Palace Chook was right up Adani's arse then went a bit cold on it later when it looked a bit less popular than first thought. Since then she seems to have stood delayed until she could blame the Feds for however it panned out. Not a popular decision.
Let's see.... estimated 1400 permanent jobs. Questions whether its establishment actually threatens other projects. The fact the coal there isn't of quite the same quality as Hunter or some overseas coal sources, and the value of the project is questionable. Viability still up in the air and a downturn in commodity prices could make it a white elephant.
That's economics speaking - forget the emissions/climate change reasoning.
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@jegga said in Aussie Politics:
Mishel Laurie has a very misleading twitter profile pic, it effectively disguises her landwhale status .
Always love shitlebrities wading in or in her case waddling in when an election doesn’t go their way.Laurie is hideous. She makes Jabba the Hutt look attractive.
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
As sure as night follows day, as soon as a right of centre party beats a left of centre party in an election, then the supporters of said left of centre party will dub whole swathes of people, including entire states, as un-educated, ignorant, and selfish.
But its Queensland so they've got a point
Adani will be a very interesting for both the state Labor and Fed Liberal to deal with in the next couple of years (next QLD election late 2020?).
Palace Chook was right up Adani's arse then went a bit cold on it later when it looked a bit less popular than first thought. Since then she seems to have stood delayed until she could blame the Feds for however it panned out. Not a popular decision.
Let's see.... estimated 1400 permanent jobs. Questions whether its establishment actually threatens other projects. The fact the coal there isn't of quite the same quality as Hunter or some overseas coal sources, and the value of the project is questionable. Viability still up in the air and a downturn in commodity prices could make it a white elephant.
That's economics speaking - forget the emissions/climate change reasoning.
Palace Chook is trying to ride the same tightrope as Shorten. After this result I assume she'll approve it, but that horrendous Trad woman seems to carry alot of sway in that party and her seat is gonski if Adani goes ahead. I hope this election will push Labor to embrace their traditional constitutents rather than the latte slurpers, but I'm not holding my breath. It's symbolic that Hawke died in the last week. He would have walked the election on Saturday although his ahem bits on the side might not have been hidden if he'd been leader now.
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We had this beast on every powerpole in my neighbourhood.
https://www.victoriansocialists.org.au/kath_larkin
Managed 5% of the vote too, pretty sure this is her on q&a questioning Peterson
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
It's symbolic that Hawke died in the last week. He would have walked the election on Saturday although his ahem bits on the side might not have been hidden if he'd been leader now.
Would Australian voters have cared?
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
It's symbolic that Hawke died in the last week. He would have walked the election on Saturday although his ahem bits on the side might not have been hidden if he'd been leader now.
Would Australian voters have cared?
They wouldn't have cared, but the usual screaming harpies might. Although they do tend to turn a blind eye to these things when it's their side. Case in point: Bill Clinton.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
As sure as night follows day, as soon as a right of centre party beats a left of centre party in an election, then the supporters of said left of centre party will dub whole swathes of people, including entire states, as un-educated, ignorant, and selfish. They will unashamedly make claims about people falling for the other side's dirty scare campaign, about how people fell for soundbites rather than virtue, and make further claims about how this has set the country back years, as how could these people not feel the same as them?
Works both ways. Some National supporters are still saying the same things over here WE WUZ ROBBED
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@dogmeat said in Aussie Politics:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
As sure as night follows day, as soon as a right of centre party beats a left of centre party in an election, then the supporters of said left of centre party will dub whole swathes of people, including entire states, as un-educated, ignorant, and selfish. They will unashamedly make claims about people falling for the other side's dirty scare campaign, about how people fell for soundbites rather than virtue, and make further claims about how this has set the country back years, as how could these people not feel the same as them?
Works both ways. Some National supporters are still saying the same things over here WE WUZ ROBBED
Robbed by Winnie!!
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