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Alison Mai just wrote this for the Guardian, here’s the money quote
“Another investigation into “predatory” and intimidating behaviour – by a different man – was launched in February, but not before a survivor group of at least 12 had made increasingly desperate attempts to get help from senior party figures over many months. They tell me one senior female party official even brushed off their concerns with this bit of classic gaslighting: “Oh that’s just [name withheld].”
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Stuff.co.nz's hands were pretty tied here, move aside government sex scandal, gay contrails are what the NZ public are really interested in on the front page today.
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@Rembrandt the French?
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@Frank said in NZ Politics:
Are there any odds site on her chances of being ousted?
Is there a real chance of it or wishful thinking by those who don't like her (me included)Nah , Grant Robertson might be an outside chance to lose his job though.
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@jegga fark that is plain dumb. I mean I know they are trying to play a lot of this down, but they'll get roasted even further by trying to blinker the investigation. At this stage trying to keep their internal processes review hidden is just not going to fly. Even though the president has resigned that doesn't mean all that stuff just goes away.
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@Paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@jegga fark that is plain dumb. I mean I know they are trying to play a lot of this down, but they'll get roasted even further by trying to blinker the investigation. At this stage trying to keep their internal processes review hidden is just not going to fly. Even though the president has resigned that doesn't mean all that stuff just goes away.
Just a group of incompetent venal people trying to bluff their way through this .
Not sure if you read the Guardian story but Mau saw the guy being a creep and mentioned it to a senior female mp and she said “ oh that’s just ( insert name here) “ like it was somehow acceptable bevcause of who he was .
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@Paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@jegga fark that is plain dumb. I mean I know they are trying to play a lot of this down, but they'll get roasted even further by trying to blinker the investigation. At this stage trying to keep their internal processes review hidden is just not going to fly. Even though the president has resigned that doesn't mean all that stuff just goes away.
Just a group of incompetent venal people trying to bluff their way through this .
Not sure if you read the Guardian story but Mau saw the guy being a creep and mentioned it to a senior female mp and she said “ oh that’s just ( insert name here) “ like it was somehow acceptable bevcause of who he was .
So is Mau not making excuses for Labour anymore?
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@Paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@jegga fark that is plain dumb. I mean I know they are trying to play a lot of this down, but they'll get roasted even further by trying to blinker the investigation. At this stage trying to keep their internal processes review hidden is just not going to fly. Even though the president has resigned that doesn't mean all that stuff just goes away.
Just a group of incompetent venal people trying to bluff their way through this .
Not sure if you read the Guardian story but Mau saw the guy being a creep and mentioned it to a senior female mp and she said “ oh that’s just ( insert name here) “ like it was somehow acceptable bevcause of who he was .
So is Mau not making excuses for Labour anymore?
Still pulling her punches a little bit but writing an article for the Guardian and giving Labour’s rape culture more overseas attention is going to make for awkward conversation next time her and Jacko catch up
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Not defending Cindy for a second but
Morrison, Turnbull, Abbott, Rudd, Gillard - not really the lucky country eh?Ah yes, poor Australia with two Rhodes Scholars in those five. No particular fan of Gillard but I'd be curious how Ardern so clearly outshines her?
Morrison is more on Ardern's level in terms of style over substance, but he clearly has better political command.
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@Paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@jegga fark that is plain dumb. I mean I know they are trying to play a lot of this down, but they'll get roasted even further by trying to blinker the investigation. At this stage trying to keep their internal processes review hidden is just not going to fly. Even though the president has resigned that doesn't mean all that stuff just goes away.
Just a group of incompetent venal people trying to bluff their way through this .
Not sure if you read the Guardian story but Mau saw the guy being a creep and mentioned it to a senior female mp and she said “ oh that’s just ( insert name here) “ like it was somehow acceptable bevcause of who he was .
So is Mau not making excuses for Labour anymore?
Still pulling her punches a little bit but writing an article for the Guardian and giving Labour’s rape culture more overseas attention is going to make for awkward conversation next time her and Jacko catch up
I would imagine that is a big step for her. Any word spoken against the party by one of their big fangirls is notable
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@rotated It's not simply the quality of the premiers it's the revolving door policy, the back-stabbing and the too often buffoonery. Who did Gillard get rolled by?
Way to move the goalposts! It is exactly about the quality of the premiers. That was exactly what we were talking about
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Latest Spinoff article about Labour ignores the fact Labour has a "face doesn't fit" clause in their employees contracts and they can fire them with a months pay so this creep could have been fired without the backlash of a lawsuit. I guess he was just too valuable to the party and teenage volunteers are a dime a dozen.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@rotated It's not simply the quality of the premiers it's the revolving door policy, the back-stabbing and the too often buffoonery. Who did Gillard get rolled by?
Way to move the goalposts! It is exactly about the quality of the premiers. That was exactly what we were talking about
Interesting point about Ardern in opposition . Also worth remembering she couldn't win a traditionally labour seat and had to be gifted a safe seat from labour.
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@rotated It's not simply the quality of the premiers it's the revolving door policy, the back-stabbing and the too often buffoonery. Who did Gillard get rolled by?
Way to move the goalposts! It is exactly about the quality of the premiers. That was exactly what we were talking about
Interesting point about Ardern in opposition . Also worth remembering she couldn't win a traditionally labour seat and had to be gifted a safe seat from labour.
@dogmeat that avatar throws me every time I see it.She is the most underqualified PMs I can recall. A real chancer
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