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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@nzzp said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
Suffering through all of this, and we could have had Prime Minister Bill English instead. I'm a massive fan of what that bloke did as finance minister -- turned the public sector upside down, drove a massive re-think about how to spend money effectively, and managed us through some stormy weather very capably. All that, and got home almost every night to spend time with his family.
Didn't appear inspiring as a leader if you looked superficially, but had real depth and talent as soon as you scratched the surface.
Instead I watch this ongoing incompetence from afar. Helen Clarke would have torn some heads off by now, put the NZ Labour Council in its place, and probably emasculated the offender (who wouldn't have got a job in her office in the first place to be fair).
I know a couple of people who voted for NZ first because they thought National had got a bit arrogant and thought Winston would keep them honest. Putting aside the fact Winston can't keep himself honest thats a very risky thing to think and obviously it backfired badly for those who voted that way.
Bill English doesn't have the x factor that Key had but I always thought he and Joyce were the brains behind national in that era .
Look at what we have now .
This latest scandal hasn't fizzled out in fice days , if anything its heated up. This never would have happened on Clarks watch, I disgreed with her politics but she'll be remembered as one of our great pms. Ardern is down there with non entities like Rowling and Palmer , accidental pms .
I genuinely believe Bill, with his economic acumen and highly developed social conscience, really wanted to and could have done great things. Opportunity lost NZ
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TL:DR ? Young guy learns that Labour are no better than national
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/labour-youth-wing-member-heartbroken-over-handling-of-allegations/ar-AAHcTax?ocid=spartanntp -
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
TL:DR ? Young guy learns that Labour are no better than national
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/labour-youth-wing-member-heartbroken-over-handling-of-allegations/ar-AAHcTax?ocid=spartanntpThey have made an enemy for life out of that kid. Loss of innocence
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
TL:DR ? Young guy learns that Labour are no better than national
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/labour-youth-wing-member-heartbroken-over-handling-of-allegations/ar-AAHcTax?ocid=spartanntpThey have made an enemy for life out of that kid. Loss of innocence
Hats off to the kid for standing up to the rapist when he was harassing women at the xmas party . If only the rest of the labour party took sexual assault so seriously.
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
TL:DR ? Young guy learns that Labour are no better than national
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/labour-youth-wing-member-heartbroken-over-handling-of-allegations/ar-AAHcTax?ocid=spartanntpThey have made an enemy for life out of that kid. Loss of innocence
Hats off to the kid for standing up to the rapist when he was harassing women at the xmas party . If only the rest of the labour party took sexual assault so seriously.
In the #meetoo age this is a cardinal sin. The morality of voters on the left will be massively challenged by this saga
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Not the fawning overseas headline Ardern is used to, jesus
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12267552
Helen says Jacinda has been let down. This wouldn't have happened on Helen's watch
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Talk about missing the point. Leave the investigation of the allegations to the police. Anything less than a frank assessment of their failings in dealing with this mess makes them look guilty.
Is it a matter of time before the cops step in?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in NZ Politics:
@jegga It aged even less well for the student protestors.... Where are they now?
Probably thinking twice about joining the labour youth wing after this week.
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Stuff really can’t help themselves, if this was John Key the headline would be “ guilty pm gives jacket to girl too poor to afford one , makes another girl cry”
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
#resignjacinda
Oh my God the lies just continue. Hilarious, she's getting ripped to shreds by journalists, that article is short, sharp and ruthless. Adern is in big trouble.
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@No-Quarter said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
#resignjacinda
Oh my God the lies just continue. Hilarious, she's getting ripped to shreds by journalists, that article is short, sharp and ruthless. Adern is in big trouble.
She's being exposed as out of her depth
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@No-Quarter said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
#resignjacinda
Oh my God the lies just continue. Hilarious, she's getting ripped to shreds by journalists, that article is short, sharp and ruthless. Adern is in big trouble.
She's being exposed as out of her depth and a liar and turning a blind eye to rape culture in her party
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
How does this story tie in with the alleged sexual predator that was discussed by The Speaker a few months ago? The implication then was it was a National employee.
Not sure where you read any implication it was a National employee. It most certainly was not.
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@Smudge said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
How does this story tie in with the alleged sexual predator that was discussed by The Speaker a few months ago? The implication then was it was a National employee.
Not sure where you read any implication it was a National employee. It most certainly was not.
He was a parliamentary staffer wasn’t he? No problem for Mallard throwing one of them under the bus . No “ process “ for those mere plebs
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@Smudge said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
How does this story tie in with the alleged sexual predator that was discussed by The Speaker a few months ago? The implication then was it was a National employee.
Not sure where you read any implication it was a National employee. It most certainly was not.
He was a parliamentary staffer wasn’t he? No problem for Mallard throwing one of them under the bus . No “ process “ for those mere plebs
Yep, worked on the precinct but not for any party.
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