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Gees its difficult to get the actual footage of his sermon, hate relying on Stuff or any jurinealist's interpretation as they do an audio overlay over the actual sermon. I guess when it comes to natural disasters people turn to whatever their religion currently is to find meaning in the madness.
"It's the gays fault!"
"It's capitalism's fault!"
"It's the greenies fault!"I have a feeling even if 30 years ago gays were banned, Australian industry shutdown and greenies shipped off to Myanmar meditation retreat, we'd probably still have bushfires in Oz.
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@taniwharugby said in The Folau Factor:
@Mokey nah Brian retracted that remember, cos Politics, so he definitely no longer believes the earthquakes were caused by the gays.
Well, he's not stupid enough to post it anyway
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@barbarian said in The Folau Factor:
This incident is, to me, why they were right to sack Folau when they did. Because if they kept him on it would only be a matter of time before the next incident, and the next, and the next.
And the logical conclusion is something like this, where he goes completely off the deep end. It's one thing to simply quote the bible and scripture (as he did in the 'gays go to hell' incidents), but to start spouting this stuff is at best horribly offensive to a great number of people.
It speaks to their incompetence that they offered him the massive contract when he first spouted this stuff and didn't back down. RA is pretty good at digging themselves into holes.
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@barbarian said in The Folau Factor:
No, though I think the opposition might.
If you stopped letting weirdos into suburban rugby there'd barely be a competition left.
...any comment
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It's such gutter journalism though isn't it? Splash his sermon all over the news so that as many people, gay people included, hear all about it. If it's so offensive surely they wouldn't want to spread it far and wide? They don't give a crap about what it does to young gay people, all they care about is the revenue the outrage will generate from the stories.
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@No-Quarter said in The Folau Factor:
It's such gutter journalism though isn't it? Splash his sermon all over the news so that as many people, gay people included, hear all about it. If it's so offensive surely they wouldn't want to spread it far and wide? They don't give a crap about what it does to young gay people, all they care about is the revenue the outrage will generate from the stories.
Gervais' guitar lessons bit is rather apt I reckon
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@Crucial said in The Folau Factor:
@barbarian said in The Folau Factor:
No, though I think the opposition might.
If you stopped letting weirdos into suburban rugby there'd barely be a competition left.
...any comment
He.... Has a point...
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@No-Quarter yeah I still don't get how it's horribly offensive. Surely you just don't go to his services or deliberately seek out his sermon on the Facebook page if you're not a fan. He's just a crazy preacher.
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@No-Quarter said in The Folau Factor:
It speaks to their incompetence that they offered him the massive contract when he first spouted this stuff and didn't back down. RA is pretty good at digging themselves into holes.
Well, jumping in my time machine and rewinding about 12 months...
Castle: "... therefore, we've decided not to pursue a contract with Israel Folau, based on that anti-gay social media comment he made once, and promised to never do again."
Australian Rugby fans:
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@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
@No-Quarter said in The Folau Factor:
It speaks to their incompetence that they offered him the massive contract when he first spouted this stuff and didn't back down. RA is pretty good at digging themselves into holes.
Well, jumping in my time machine and rewinding about 12 months...
Castle: "... therefore, we've decided not to pursue a contract with Israel Folau, based on that anti-gay social media comment he made once, and promised to never do again."
Australian Rugby fans:
They offered him a massive contract and made him their poster boy. If they were smart they would have made a far smaller offer following his comments, and if he chose not to take it then it's on him. That's an easier sell to fans - particularly in the context of what Folau says about wealth.
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@No-Quarter said in The Folau Factor:
@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
@No-Quarter said in The Folau Factor:
It speaks to their incompetence that they offered him the massive contract when he first spouted this stuff and didn't back down. RA is pretty good at digging themselves into holes.
Well, jumping in my time machine and rewinding about 12 months...
Castle: "... therefore, we've decided not to pursue a contract with Israel Folau, based on that anti-gay social media comment he made once, and promised to never do again."
Australian Rugby fans:
They offered him a massive contract and made him their poster boy. If they were smart they would have made a far smaller offer following his comments, and if he chose not to take it then it's on him. That's an easier sell to fans - particularly in the context of what Folau says about wealth.
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Castle: "... Israel has refused the offer we made him to stay with rugby. We wish him all the best an-"
Australian Rugby Fans: "HE'S OUR BEST PLAYER! OFFER HIM MORE YOU STUPID GOTH!"See how this plays out?
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@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
@No-Quarter said in The Folau Factor:
@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
@No-Quarter said in The Folau Factor:
It speaks to their incompetence that they offered him the massive contract when he first spouted this stuff and didn't back down. RA is pretty good at digging themselves into holes.
Well, jumping in my time machine and rewinding about 12 months...
Castle: "... therefore, we've decided not to pursue a contract with Israel Folau, based on that anti-gay social media comment he made once, and promised to never do again."
Australian Rugby fans:
They offered him a massive contract and made him their poster boy. If they were smart they would have made a far smaller offer following his comments, and if he chose not to take it then it's on him. That's an easier sell to fans - particularly in the context of what Folau says about wealth.
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Castle: "... Israel has refused the offer we made him to stay with rugby. We wish him all the best an-"
Australian Rugby Fans: "HE'S OUR BEST PLAYER! OFFER HIM MORE YOU STUPID GOTH!"See how this plays out?
You really think Folau rejecting a contract would generate the same level of outrage? Especially after the criticism RA got giving players like Genia and Giteau such massive contracts at the expense of everything else?
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@No-Quarter yes. That is exactly what I think.
Understand that for every one person applauding RA for sacking the idiot, there is another saying it's nothing to do with Rugby or that it is free speech and therefore oppression of his religion etc.
He threw a shit grenade, and everyone got coated.
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@NTA OK, I disagree. They didn't even have to talk about his previous comments. Just when they went into the contract re-negotiation don't offer him half as much, and don't make him the poster boy for RA. Him complaining about not being offered enough wouldn't go down particularly well with a lot of people.
Sacking him for his social media posts without following due process is what generated the outrage not just in Australia but around the world.
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@NTA said in The Folau Factor:
He threw a shit grenade, and everyone got coated.
I do agree with this part
Sports requiring athletes to support cultural positions