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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
Shows the stupidity of the govt proposals
Stupidity. Or greed and corruption of Govts?
"Climate change is a real problem. It is man-made, and it will have negative consequences."
So lets send billions of dollars to a climate fund. But who gets this money?
I doubt if any Govt in the world believes this nonsense
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@Winger said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
Shows the stupidity of the govt proposals
Stupidity. Or greed and corruption of Govts?
"Climate change is a real problem. It is man-made, and it will have negative consequences."
So lets send billions of dollars to a climate fund. But who gets this money?
I doubt if any Govt in the world believes this nonsense
People get sucked into all kinds of nonsense, unfortunately some people think admitting they were wrong will make them look more ridiculous than their beliefs already make them look.
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@Bones I really wish they would highlight the work of all the climate scientists, or those who have planted trees, invented/designed things to clean up the earth, rather than the girl who flies from country to country to talk. I find it gross that there are actual experts who get zero airtime and she gets all the praise.
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@Mokey It's pathetic. But so many people now won't listen to experts that it seems that what we have now is the science side of the argument trying to use utter bullshit like this as a gimmick to get morons on board who won't listen to facts. Like the dumbing down of politics and everything else. Pretty depressing that idiocracy is real.
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@Bones said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Bloody hell, what an absolute sham this girl is turning out to be. I didn't even know Time had such an award, but surely there are younger people this year?
I know some younger ...
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Seriously though, she probably deserves to be Person of the Year given the impact she has had.
But I wonder why this guy has received plaudits: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kane_Tanaka
Ageism.
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"Australia is the worst-performing country on climate change policy, according to a new international ranking of 57 countries."
“While the government is not proposing any further targets for renewable energy beyond 2020, it continues to promote the expansion of fossil fuels and in April 2019 approved the opening of the highly controversial Adani coalmine,”
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@reprobate said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Mokey It's pathetic. But so many people now won't listen to experts that it seems that what we have now is the science side of the argument trying to use utter bullshit like this as a gimmick to get morons on board who won't listen to facts. Like the dumbing down of politics and everything else. Pretty depressing that idiocracy is real.
Unfortunately I think it's having the opposite effect and making people even more entrenched in their views. She has a largely fatalistic view of the climate unless we completely throw the baby out with the bath water and attempt a complete restructure of society (to something that appears to resemble communism).
As @Mokey says there are countless people developing tech like renewable energy and safe nuclear power, as well as planting millions of trees to help offset CO2 that should be recognised for the work they are doing. The solution to the climate problems, like pretty much every other problem that has faced humanity, is to innovate.
We should really take this to the climate thread though...
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@Mokey said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@Bones I really wish they would highlight the work of all the climate scientists, or those who have planted trees, invented/designed things to clean up the earth, rather than the girl who flies from country to country to talk. I find it gross that there are actual experts who get zero airtime and she gets all the praise.
Point of order! She hitched a ride on a sail boat, I know this because it was publicised endlessly how amazing that is.
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@chimoaus said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
"Australia is the worst-performing country on climate change policy, according to a new international ranking of 57 countries."
“While the government is not proposing any further targets for renewable energy beyond 2020, it continues to promote the expansion of fossil fuels and in April 2019 approved the opening of the highly controversial Adani coalmine,”Good on them....
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@Mokey said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@Bones I really wish they would highlight the work of all the climate scientists, or those who have planted trees, invented/designed things to clean up the earth, rather than the girl who flies from country to country to talk. I find it gross that there are actual experts who get zero airtime and she gets all the praise.
As much as I want to agree to this, It's Greta that really got people talking. It's extraordinary some of the responses to her.
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@chimoaus said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
Australia is the worst-performing country on climate change policy
Ridiculous. We don't have any national climate change policy.
Though it's funny on that very topic: the Lib govt here have quietly accepted the likelihood of getting to 50% renewables is a sort of policy now.
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@voodoo said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@NTA though its also a stretch to say Australia "continues to promote the expansion of fossil fuels", unless they're referencing exporting thermal coal
I think that was their point. Also the LNP desire (Canavan, Craig Kelly etc) to build new thermal coal, despite the very small possibility of will actually happen
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@nzzp said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
@Winger said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:
But I do like the look of these mini nukes. And they can use up a lot of reprocessed so called nuclear waste
Nuclear waste is recyclable. Once reactor fuel (uranium or thorium) is used in a reactor, it can be treated and put into another reactor as fuel. In fact, typical reactors only extract a few percent of the energy in their fuel.It's mindboggling how little fuel nuclear uses. The bomb at Hiroshima consumed about 0.7g of matter; less than the weight of a banknote. It's simply amazing.
SMR has been talked about for many years and I hope they get it moving because of the flexibility. Distributed generation is so much more robust than central big bang stuff. Modular build means less problems.
At this rate we probably won't see NuScale in production until around 2030 or so.
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