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Good on him for voicing what many of us feel about our Woman's Day pinup PM.
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
Good on him for voicing what many of us feel about our Woman's Day pinup PM.
The classic stupid cow-useless bint reaction:
ATTEMPTS TO 'SILENCE WOMEN'
*Michelle Duff, who wrote the book Jacinda Ardern: The Story Behind an Extraordinary Leader, wrote on the Spinoff that the Turn Ardern campaign was a result of a group of men feeling threatened by a powerful woman.
"Throughout history, attempts have been made to silence women. We've been drowned as witches, denied the vote, gaslighted in relationships, had our ideas stolen in meetings, had our voices and views disbelieved and minimised. We've been done to, not done by," she said.
"Seen in this light, #TurnArdern is just another manifestation of this simmering hatred of women that lies just beneath the surface. ..."*
Decades ago we were lectured about the benefit of more women in parliament and how they bring a more gentle, thoughtful approach, how they are better suited to leadership, to negotiating, to more empathetic empathiness.
Well that didn't turn out to be so. The reality is they brought forth a conga line of liars.
Anna Blie$ as Deputy Premier in QLD spent millions in mining royalties on Labor's favorite high cost - no return projects, for example - a desalination plant that has never been switched on. She sobbed on television because it rained a bit, much like it has historically, and had her people bully the dam operators to open the gates at the wrong time. Following legal action completed a few weeks ago those actions will cost the State a motza in damages. For some reason no-one blew the whistle on her, but she did head for the hills suddenly, just like her predecessor and likely for the same reason "leave now or we will out you" (for whatever misdemeanor she committed).
Belinda Neal got booted for snarling "Don't you know who I am?" at a restaurater then threatening to shut him down(?). Her Labor brethren didn't know what to do to have her pull her head in, then someone recalled she was cooking the electoral books and she had to go.
Julie Bishop, recently deputy Liberal Leader several times over, knifed every Leader with whom she served.
Carmen Lawrence, WA Premier, was described as a liar in a royal commission into the suicide of Penny Easton, which she was. Labor rescued her reputation when they later took government.
I can name and summarise the deceitfulness of 20 or 30 more in Federal, State and Territory jurisdictions during my time as an interested observer. My point is they strutted about full of self righteousness and judgemental rhetoric but proved to be no different from the males they sought to unseat. They lie readily, without hesitation when it suits them, and they are adept at it.
Michelle Duff is no exception. She has not taken on the criticism. Instead she has invented a fantasy that men feel threatened by powerful women (I've not personally encountered a single one worthy of that description) and avoided the issues.
I love when they get all hysterical and push claims which can be easily dismantled. For example: "our voices and views disbelieved and minimised" - women have never had it so good. Law schools comprise about 60% women now, the girlies have taken over teaching at the infants and primary levels with their hard won BAs, and they have steered clear of structural and civil engineering, praise be!
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The punchline is the article doesn’t mention is that Duffs book is some narcissistic wank about the authors life and how Ardern has changed it and doesn’t contain a single interview with Ardern or her staff or anyone particularly close to her .
If anyone was trying to silence women someone at the publishing company would have piped up and refused to waste money printing such pablum . Ardern was smart to make sure she was distanced from such crap .
This review was written by a guy who’s a leftie , I’m sure you’ll appreciate his ranting
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@jegga : Oh dear - Steve Braunias just goes on and on and on and on. I do appreciate people making the effort to understand and use English well, to be articulate. This bloke has torn a few pages from the dictionary, cut them into confetti and thrown any surviving whole words at the page. The book review is about as useful as the book!
To discover now that Duff has failed to interview the subject, or a close associate, means her tome has no authority and is a waste of the reader's time.
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Remember the fiscal hole that Labour said was a filthy lie? Its actually worse now.
Robertson will be remembered as the worst finance minister in a couple of generations. I'd hate to be a roading contractor right now, Labour and their blogs were derisive of roading projects when in opposition and now , any project they announce now is going to take years to actually happen.
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@jegga Other than his opinion I have seen nothing to support Joyces fiscal hole.
He fucked up National's last election campaign and needs to move on.
In terms of the infrastructure spend Feb's announcements will be interesting. Not sure precisely what is shovel ready? Other than maybe throwing a heap of money at some low tech safety initiatives I struggle with what could kick off straightaway.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@jegga Other than his opinion I have seen nothing to support Joyces fiscal hole.
He fucked up National's last election campaign and needs to move on.
In terms of the infrastructure spend Feb's announcements will be interesting. Not sure precisely what is shovel ready? Other than maybe throwing a heap of money at some low tech safety initiatives I struggle with what could kick off straightaway.
Isn’t going from a surplus to a large deficit a hole?
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@jegga Other than his opinion I have seen nothing to support Joyces fiscal hole.
He fucked up National's last election campaign and needs to move on.
In terms of the infrastructure spend Feb's announcements will be interesting. Not sure precisely what is shovel ready? Other than maybe throwing a heap of money at some low tech safety initiatives I struggle with what could kick off straightaway.
I read an article pretty recently that laid out pretty clearly with facts how Joyce was correct and the fiscal hole is very real.
But it seems to be one of those partisan issues where sides are taken and proof is subjective. National supporters see the hole, Labour supporters do not.
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@Kirwan the last two years the fiscal surplus has been increasing. Joyce's fiscal hole was fake news. The surplus for the June 30th year was 7.5 Billion - the highest for a decade. Where's the fiscal hole? We now have a short term projected deficit because of capex not opex. Unless we are talking at cross purposes.
@Toddy I know of plenty of govt depts / funded organisations (think every DHB) that never make their Budgets. Isn't necessarily reflective of the country's overall financial position.
I think Robertson has done OK. Pretty much a steady as she goes approach - now relaxing the purse strings a bit on infrastructure
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback interested to see the article. I've heard Hootton (hardly a pinko) lampoon Joyce for the missing numbers.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@Kirwan the last two years the fiscal surplus has been increasing. Joyce's fiscal hole was fake news. The surplus for the June 30th year was 7.5 Billion - the highest for a decade. Where's the fiscal hole? We now have a short term projected deficit because of capex not opex. Unless we are talking at cross purposes.
@Toddy I know of plenty of govt depts / funded organisations (think every DHB) that never make their Budgets. Isn't necessarily reflective of the country's overall financial position.
I think Robertson has done OK. Pretty much a steady as she goes approach - now relaxing the purse strings a bit on infrastructure
Fake news?? errr no
not the article, but still interesting.
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Fair enough So Bagrie says there will be a defecit in the future but that Robertson is making all the right calls.
Damning stuff.
Seriously there is so much to call out the government for but financial mismanagement isn't really one of them.
It is why it is another inept strategy of Bridges over the infrastructure spend. He's focussing on the debt when he should be applauding Labours intent but seriously challenging Labours ability to deliver citing Kiwibuild Light Rail etc. The couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery approach
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback that article covers what has happened with the Gov Dep I've heard about. There are multiple initiatives expiring at the same time that need to be renewed. Costs have gone up a sh.tload completely blowing what was budgeted.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Fair enough So Bagrie says there will be a defecit in the future but that Robertson is making all the right calls.
Damning stuff.
Seriously there is so much to call out the government for but financial mismanagement isn't really one of them.
It is why it is another inept strategy of Bridges over the infrastructure spend. He's focussing on the debt when he should be applauding Labours intent but seriously challenging Labours ability to deliver citing Kiwibuild Light Rail etc. The couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery approach
No actually he is just saying that Joyce was right about the fiscal hole. You know the thing you called fake news.
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@Toddy said in NZ Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback that article covers what has happened with the Gov Dep I've heard about. There are multiple initiatives expiring at the same time that need to be renewed. Costs have gone up a sh.tload completely blowing what was budgeted.
That was exactly what Joyce was saying the Labour books didnt cover increases properly.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@Kirwan the last two years the fiscal surplus has been increasing. Joyce's fiscal hole was fake news. The surplus for the June 30th year was 7.5 Billion - the highest for a decade. Where's the fiscal hole? We now have a short term projected deficit because of capex not opex. Unless we are talking at cross purposes.
@Toddy I know of plenty of govt depts / funded organisations (think every DHB) that never make their Budgets. Isn't necessarily reflective of the country's overall financial position.
I think Robertson has done OK. Pretty much a steady as she goes approach - now relaxing the purse strings a bit on infrastructure
A deficit isn't a fiscal hole.
The first is a shortfall in income vs expense over a period. You can plan for it (which may or may not be unwise depending on the circumstances) or it can happen because things change between when you set your budget and the end of the period that you couldn't have foreseen. If you planned it and didn't have a way to make it back up that's financial mismanagement. If you didn't plan it and then didn't react to bring it back under control that's financial mismanagement too.
The second isn't really a defined thing. It is shorthand for a calculation or planning error that renders your plan worthless. In this case Joyce said that there was a deficit in the making that Labour hadn't recognised or built into their planning. At the time nobody in Labour said that they planned for a short term projected deficit. Instead they claimed that it was fake news. They didn't even defend the mismatch in the numbers, they just denied it existed. That's always financial mismanagement as far as I can tell.
What Joyce pointed out - correctly - was that Labour's promises and the expectations they created had not been factored into their spending plans. They therefore represented contingent liabilities that should be accounted for. Not doing so is no different to a CEO telling their workforce that they would all get 10% pay rises but the CFO not factoring it into the next year's budget. Then when they make a loss for the year telling the shareholders that it is just a short term projected deficit. If that's not financial mismanagement I'm interested to hear what you think would be needed to meet your definition.
IMO Labour either planned it and lied about it, or they didn't plan it and are incompetent. Liars or fools, which are they?
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