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@Kirwan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Duluth said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
Tarrant's document is still censored. So please don't discuss the contents
Which itself is pretty incredible in a supposedly free society.
Good thing we have a virtuous PM and anointed reporters who are allowed to report on what was in it so we don't have to worry our pretty heads over what might be in it and that we can only assume our leaders actions are the correct ones in response.
I see 21 months prison for that bloke who shared the video. He's a grade A racist fluffybunny without a doubt..but gotta love that precedent. I wonder what that 16 year old is going to get?
Accept the truth your government gives you or go to prison.
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past"
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@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
He might the first to get life without parole.
We really need to question the system if he doesn't.
If he doesn't get it, nobody will. The main question for the court is whether he could ever be released on parole safely.
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@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
He might the first to get life without parole.
We really need to question the system if he doesn't.
If he doesn't get it, nobody will. The main question for the court is whether he could ever be released on parole safely.
Some things we do in life don't deserve that question to be asked.
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@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
He might the first to get life without parole.
We really need to question the system if he doesn't.
If he doesn't get it, nobody will. The main question for the court is whether he could ever be released on parole safely.
Some things we do in life don't deserve that question to be asked.
The rule of law requires it, but the ideology and actions suggest someone who can't safely be released ever, so the judge can justify it easily enough.
That also means he can't be deported, but that's worth it IMO.
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@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
He might the first to get life without parole.
We really need to question the system if he doesn't.
If he doesn't get it, nobody will. The main question for the court is whether he could ever be released on parole safely.
Some things we do in life don't deserve that question to be asked.
The rule of law requires it, but the ideology and actions suggest someone who can't safely be released ever, so the judge can justify it easily enough.
That also means he can't be deported, but that's worth it IMO.
Yep. Like you said, if this crime doesn't meet the threshold you'd have to wonder what would. Might as well strike it from the books if you can't use it here.
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@Kirwan said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
He might the first to get life without parole.
We really need to question the system if he doesn't.
If he doesn't get it, nobody will. The main question for the court is whether he could ever be released on parole safely.
Some things we do in life don't deserve that question to be asked.
The rule of law requires it, but the ideology and actions suggest someone who can't safely be released ever, so the judge can justify it easily enough.
That also means he can't be deported, but that's worth it IMO.
Yep. Like you said, if this crime doesn't meet the threshold you'd have to wonder what would. Might as well strike it from the books if you can't use it here.
The only shadow of doubt is if he's finally listening to his lawyers and the guilty plea is aimed at avoiding life without parole and solitary confinement which is what he was staring down the barrel of.
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@taniwharugby Safety yes, but also that he might infect the other inmates with his beliefs, so if he has renounced his beliefs, then that will stop being an issue (eventually).
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@taniwharugby I doubt anyone will actually believe it for years, but maybe in 20 years or something.
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@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
He might the first to get life without parole.
We really need to question the system if he doesn't.
If he doesn't get it, nobody will. The main question for the court is whether he could ever be released on parole safely.
Some things we do in life don't deserve that question to be asked.
The rule of law requires it, but the ideology and actions suggest someone who can't safely be released ever, so the judge can justify it easily enough.
That also means he can't be deported, but that's worth it IMO.
Deportation isn't the best answer anyway.
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@Smudge said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
He might the first to get life without parole.
We really need to question the system if he doesn't.
If he doesn't get it, nobody will. The main question for the court is whether he could ever be released on parole safely.
Some things we do in life don't deserve that question to be asked.
The rule of law requires it, but the ideology and actions suggest someone who can't safely be released ever, so the judge can justify it easily enough.
That also means he can't be deported, but that's worth it IMO.
Deportation isn't the best answer anyway.
Even better! Dump him at Darling Harbour with no conviction and let them see what cleaning up garbage you had no part in looks like.
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@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Hooroo said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
@Godder said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:
He might the first to get life without parole.
We really need to question the system if he doesn't.
If he doesn't get it, nobody will. The main question for the court is whether he could ever be released on parole safely.
Some things we do in life don't deserve that question to be asked.
The rule of law requires it, but the ideology and actions suggest someone who can't safely be released ever, so the judge can justify it easily enough.
That also means he can't be deported, but that's worth it IMO.
Good.
After the debacle with releasing the Rainbow Warrior bombers, I don't want anyone being let loose from NZ until they've served their time.
And this clown will find life harder on New Zealand soil.
Should just be cemented into his cell for life.
Christchurch Gunman in Mosque