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Bit of a rock and a hard place situation though. How do you go about breaking up a protest like that, considering there would be a (not insignificant) minority who might be spoiling for a fight with a copper?
So on the one hand you risk an outbreak, but on the other you risk a potentially violent, messy clash between police and protesters, which could trigger further protests and backlash in other places.
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@MN5 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
A friend of mine who is mixed race shared this on FB. Quite amusing watching her point out this fact to her friends and shooting them down.
Dumb argument that misses the point of the saying entirely.
BLM means 'Black lives matter AS ALL LIVES do' not ONLY.
It isn't a race card, it is a slogan to draw attention to a problem.
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@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@MN5 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
A friend of mine who is mixed race shared this on FB. Quite amusing watching her point out this fact to her friends and shooting them down.
Dumb argument that misses the point of the saying entirely.
BLM means 'Black lives matter AS ALL LIVES do' not ONLY.
It isn't a race card, it is a slogan to draw attention to a problem.
You can look at it that way but she pointed out a counter argument. That's all.
She said something along the lines of slogans like this will create division by their very wording.
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Bit of a rock and a hard place situation though. How do you go about breaking up a protest like that, considering there would be a (not insignificant) minority who might be spoiling for a fight with a copper?
So on the one hand you risk an outbreak, but on the other you risk a potentially violent, messy clash between police and protesters, which could trigger further protests and backlash in other places.
Give the unwashed a bath at the same time:
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@taniwharugby I'm happy for them to make an exception for the financial benefit of the country. As long as they make sure to quarantine them correctly. Money made from producing the movie would pale in comparison to another lockdown
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@Kirwan I was just thinking about that...giving movie companies special treatment and all.
I dont have an issue, as above, as long as they are in isolation, all good.
That said, been alot of money spent already on the project already, would be surprised if they spat the dummy over a delay of a few more weeks.
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@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@MN5 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
A friend of mine who is mixed race shared this on FB. Quite amusing watching her point out this fact to her friends and shooting them down.
Dumb argument that misses the point of the saying entirely.
BLM means 'Black lives matter AS ALL LIVES do' not ONLY.
It isn't a race card, it is a slogan to draw attention to a problem.
It's entirely a race card. The only determining factor is race. 30% of the message denotes race. The race card would have black lives matter emblazoned on it. It purposely alienates other races.
Inclusivity:
Poor lives matter
Elderly lives matter
Unemployed lives matter
Fatherless lives matter
Victims of crime lives matter
Drug addicts lives matter -
@Siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@MN5 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
A friend of mine who is mixed race shared this on FB. Quite amusing watching her point out this fact to her friends and shooting them down.
Dumb argument that misses the point of the saying entirely.
BLM means 'Black lives matter AS ALL LIVES do' not ONLY.
It isn't a race card, it is a slogan to draw attention to a problem.
It's entirely a race card. The only determining factor is race. 30% of the message denotes race. The race card would have black lives matter emblazoned on it. It purposely alienates other races.
Inclusivity:
Poor lives matter
Elderly lives matter
Unemployed lives matter
Fatherless lives matter
Victims of crime lives matter
Drug addicts lives matterJew lives matter?
Although Linda Sarsour might not be onboard with that one.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan Yes, but weren't these the same clowns getting stuck into National for special treatment for Jackson?
posts like this always surprise me, especially from smart blokes. Do you expect anything different? Have you seen anything, from either party (or for that matter any two parties in any western democracy) that would suggest any sort of consistency? Or any self awareness?
Politicians of all stripes will say and do what ever is politically advantageous at the time. To expect anything else is folly.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan Yes, but weren't these the same clowns getting stuck into National for special treatment for Jackson?
posts like this always surprise me, especially from smart blokes. Do you expect anything different? Have you seen anything, from either party (or for that matter any two parties in any western democracy) that would suggest any sort of consistency? Or any self awareness?
Politicians of all stripes will say and do what ever is politically advantageous at the time. To expect anything else is folly.
The message in opposition is quite different to the one when in government. And we'd probably prefer it in this case, to take an ideological stand would cost the country millions
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan Yes, but weren't these the same clowns getting stuck into National for special treatment for Jackson?
posts like this always surprise me, especially from smart blokes. Do you expect anything different? Have you seen anything, from either party (or for that matter any two parties in any western democracy) that would suggest any sort of consistency? Or any self awareness?
Politicians of all stripes will say and do what ever is politically advantageous at the time. To expect anything else is folly.
I don't expect anything different, no. It's still worth pointing out self serving hypocrisy from people that present themselves as honest and transparent.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan Yes, but weren't these the same clowns getting stuck into National for special treatment for Jackson?
posts like this always surprise me, especially from smart blokes. Do you expect anything different? Have you seen anything, from either party (or for that matter any two parties in any western democracy) that would suggest any sort of consistency? Or any self awareness?
Politicians of all stripes will say and do what ever is politically advantageous at the time. To expect anything else is folly.
I don't expect anything different, no. It's still worth pointing out self serving hypocrisy from people that present themselves as honest and transparent.
i guess i am well past thinking anyone in politics is that.
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I guess there is a bit of a difference in being in opposition and being oppositional for the sake of it
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I guess there is a bit of a difference in being in opposition and being oppositional for the sake of it
there is?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan Yes, but weren't these the same clowns getting stuck into National for special treatment for Jackson?
posts like this always surprise me, especially from smart blokes. Do you expect anything different? Have you seen anything, from either party (or for that matter any two parties in any western democracy) that would suggest any sort of consistency? Or any self awareness?
Politicians of all stripes will say and do what ever is politically advantageous at the time. To expect anything else is folly.
I don't expect anything different, no. It's still worth pointing out self serving hypocrisy from people that present themselves as honest and transparent.
i guess i am well past thinking anyone in politics is that.
Cindy did campaign on it. She said they would be the most honest and transparent government. Another failed promise. But it was what people wanted to hear
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