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@Mokey said in NZ Politics:
@Paekakboyz Me too. It makes no sense.
When you play the game for as long as she did it is inevitable that somewhere along the line you will make an error that is hard to hide.
Giving that information to a rookie was a big error though.We haven't seen the result of the enquiry around this either and maybe more skeletons will come out of the closet. Although they may not have been Muller's fault he would be the one that would be bearing the weight of the media. If (and this is just theorising) he has heard that potentially more could be found from looking closely at Boag he was going to go down hard. Better to leave with a bit of dignity (and health) intact than to try and defend/explain more.
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@gt12 I'm wondering how much of his 'dedicated' support through the leadership contest was actually "anyone but Simon". So he's come in with a veneer of support, didn't measure up immediately in the leadership side of things (tough crowd), then the cracks started appearing and multiplying. Seems his castle was built on gunpowder rather than sand!
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@Crucial Giving that info to anyone was a big error let alone a loose cannon rookie and a dude who was already in the doghouse for the fake homeless guy story. Not sure Muller actually had control, he was exposed quite badly with dithering and changing stories and MPs saying 'well actually...'
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@Paekakboyz I think the election result against Soimon was actually a lot closer than we imagined and he had a caucus that was split almost 50/50 with a lot of bitter losers who didn't mind undermining him as most of the caucus has given up. Throw in (a lot of MP's) who will be looking for a new gig in two months and its not a happy place for sure.
He did look all at sea though almost from Day 1. Job was clearly much harder than he expected it to be. Corporate world clearly wasn't preparation for the death stare politicking no matter what Winnie says
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@gt12 Interesting paragraph from Audrey Young this morning:
Just how bad it had got is evident in the press statement saying continuing in the job has "become untenable from a health perspective".
The words "mental health" have not been used but Muller has had a breakdown, to the extent that he was unable to even make the emergency teleconference caucus call this morning to tender his resignation.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12347847
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
He did look all at sea though almost from Day 1. Job was clearly much harder than he expected it to be. Corporate world clearly wasn't preparation for the death stare politicking no matter what Winnie says
I have a half baked theory that 2020 has taken a lot more of out of some people than they realise, and when they go to step up a few gears all of a sudden they can't quite do it the way that they once would have. Todd isn't the only one I've seen along those (very broad) lines.
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@Donsteppa shit. I really hope he is ok - no job is worth that level of personal sacrifice. Never a better moment to focus on the current 'be kind' mantra. Surely he'll be gone entirely from politics? if not now very soon I'd imagine. Then again he might see staying on and contributing as a genuine way forward...
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@canefan thing is, who wants to step into the role right now, if you have long term ambitions, taking over after they lose the election would be the best bet, taking it up now, looking down the barrell at falling short come election time, chances are someone else will see that time as thier shot too.
Simon would surely not be keen to step back in, knowing it was only short term.
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@Donsteppa dude, this 1000%.
In a semi-related segue we moved to Outlook from Google mail at work last week. I flipped the table as it was one more bit of (unwelcome) change in a year that has been a shambles. Didn't matter if it was good or bad change, I was just utterly done on change.
No matter how resilient we are feeling this year has done a number on us. Far more of us running around on a hair trigger than we might expect or admit.
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@Paekakboyz said in NZ Politics:
@canefan she's Chinese aye?
Nikki appears to have contracted Footinmouth20
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@Virgil said in NZ Politics:
Sounds cruel but Iād love to see how Crusher would go as leader.
Either way the millions that will be spent on this years election does seem like a waste of money now.
She came across very well in her AM show slot a wee while ago. She has softened her image a bit and still has a bit of wit. She has been asking the uncomfortable questions in parliament more during this term than anyone. They could do worse right now
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@Mokey said in NZ Politics:
@canefan Well no one is going to out-kind Jacinda, so why not.
I do wonder though if her past reputation of being a bit of a bully (which she has worked hard on remedying) would backfire at the moment. Being seen as 'bullying' Jacinda would not go well but spending time looking strong as opposition leader would.
I think they will throw another lamb to the slaughter but who knows. It sounds like there are al sorts of factions going on.
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