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@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
It’s Crusher
Funny how she has spent the last few years denying any aspirations for the leadership yet .....
Including in her book? But who could have foreseen Muller committing hari kari? She is too savvy to stick her neck out unless she is sure of support. I expect either Adams, Kay or Collins, probably in that order
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
It’s Crusher
Funny how she has spent the last few years denying any aspirations for the leadership yet .....
Including in her book? But who could have foreseen Muller committing hari kari? She is too savvy to stick her neck out unless she is sure of support. I expect either Adams, Kay or Collins, probably in that order
No it’s real. Crusher is it.
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@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
It’s Crusher
Funny how she has spent the last few years denying any aspirations for the leadership yet .....
Including in her book? But who could have foreseen Muller committing hari kari? She is too savvy to stick her neck out unless she is sure of support. I expect either Adams, Kay or Collins, probably in that order
No it’s real. Crusher is it.
Oh wow. I think she is a good choice. Has been one of the best opposition MPs, has polished her persona so it is less abrasive than before. Seems to be more popular with the national faithful than her MPs. But they need to fall in and pull together because all their jobs are on the line. I'd pick Adams. At least when the jibes about minorities come about they can say they are led by 2 women, not just 1
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Crucial said in NZ Politics:
It’s Crusher
Funny how she has spent the last few years denying any aspirations for the leadership yet .....
Including in her book? But who could have foreseen Muller committing hari kari? She is too savvy to stick her neck out unless she is sure of support. I expect either Adams, Kay or Collins, probably in that order
No it’s real. Crusher is it.
Oh wow. I think she is a good choice. Has been one of the best opposition MPs, has polished her persona so it is less abrasive than before. Seems to be more popular with the national faithful than her MPs. But they need to fall in and pull together because all their jobs are on the line. I'd pick Adams. At least when the jibes about minorities come about they can say they are led by 2 women, not just 1
She's probably about the only credible choice at this point - her or maybe Mitchell.
I'm slightly surprised that she didn't demur at this point - in favour of picking up the pieces later - but, you can never be sure the chance will come again, and maybe she has a plan for overcoming the damage wrought.
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Gerry confirmed as deputy.
Wouldn't be my choice. Doesn't really scream fresh does he?
Not really - safe pair of hands I think.
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@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Gerry confirmed as deputy.
Wouldn't be my choice. Doesn't really scream fresh does he?
Not really - safe pair of hands I think.
I personally think it's too late for safe. In the current environment image is everything and stuffy white guy isn't gonna resonate with the voters
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So the Nats are copying Labour’s election strategies? Cunliff, Little, Taxinda lose the vote, add Winston = win!
Does Collins get on better with the old crook? They seem cut from the same cloth.
Hope Muller is ok, would be doubly bad news to get bad health news and lose your dream job.
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Gerry confirmed as deputy.
Wouldn't be my choice. Doesn't really scream fresh does he?
Not really - safe pair of hands I think.
I personally think it's too late for safe. In the current environment image is everything and stuffy white guy isn't gonna resonate with the voters
We aren’t American, we can avoid looking at everything through the myopic view of race.
Anyway, who cares who is deputy, we have the correct gender for the woke brigade as leader.
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@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Gerry confirmed as deputy.
Wouldn't be my choice. Doesn't really scream fresh does he?
Not really - safe pair of hands I think.
I personally think it's too late for safe. In the current environment image is everything and stuffy white guy isn't gonna resonate with the voters
We aren’t American, we can avoid looking at everything through the myopic view of race.
Anyway, who cares who is deputy, we have the correct gender for the woke brigade as leader.
I just think Adams is smart enough. He probably won't sat much anyway. And what's wrong with a little more woke for those who care?
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Gerry confirmed as deputy.
Wouldn't be my choice. Doesn't really scream fresh does he?
Not really - safe pair of hands I think.
I personally think it's too late for safe. In the current environment image is everything and stuffy white guy isn't gonna resonate with the voters
We aren’t American, we can avoid looking at everything through the myopic view of race.
Anyway, who cares who is deputy, we have the correct gender for the woke brigade as leader.
I just think Adams is smart enough. He probably won't sat much anyway. And what's wrong with a little more woke for those who care?
Just bored of stuffy white guy dog whistles
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Gerry confirmed as deputy.
Wouldn't be my choice. Doesn't really scream fresh does he?
Not really - safe pair of hands I think.
I personally think it's too late for safe. In the current environment image is everything and stuffy white guy isn't gonna resonate with the voters
Matters less for the deputy, especially since the leader is a female - the deputy doesn't seem to get judged the same way.
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@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@Godder said in NZ Politics:
Gerry confirmed as deputy.
Wouldn't be my choice. Doesn't really scream fresh does he?
Not really - safe pair of hands I think.
I personally think it's too late for safe. In the current environment image is everything and stuffy white guy isn't gonna resonate with the voters
Matters less for the deputy, especially since the leader is a female - the deputy doesn't seem to get judged the same way.
Fair call. But if they get caught in a pissing contest about minorities and women, it would be nice to have it in reserve. And Adams is liberal, good for the swing voters
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
So who will they pick now? I don't see anyone who harbours serious designs on being leader longterm wanting this. Mitchell? Adams? Crusher? The outlook is bleak
Would love to see Crusher gave a crack. But I reckon she thinks losing the election rules her out going forward. Reckon she's lining up the next one.
My opinion is she'd get a good run at both.
But perhaps she doesn't want to be seen to lose one.
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