Coronavirus - Overall
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@Tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Afghan refugees fleeing back over the border to return back to Afghanistan never made sense with the official numbers.
Assumed it was worse, but was still a 'believable ' amount of stats being released to make the obfuscation plausible. Almost well played.
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Going forward, care homes everywhere ought to be configured to enable quarantining when a pandemic hits in future. That means in the UK an end to homes being reliant on sharing workers, in particular agency staff.
Needless to say it will be a major exercise.
It's a nice idea but impossible to implement. There are thousands of nursing homes here in Aus, each with hundreds of staff. Given the nature of the work it would skew female (I'm guessing) and many of those nurses and carers would have families of their own.
So some sort of quarantine for that many people for that length of time would be straight out impossible, IMO.
I'm not sure we're really disagreeing.
With the current haphazard methods of provision of elderly care, and a range of facilities from the hospital-like to B'n'B, prolonged quarantine would be near impossible for all (but possible for some).
The lesson from all this should be that pandamics can and will happen despite all the wonderful medical advances over the last 100 years.
Hence the need for EU-14 to regulate future care homes so that they can quarantive if and when required to in future.
It's a massive undertaking, with very substantial cost implications.
However, lockdown until vaccine is simply unaffordable in most scenarios.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Rapido To get a truer picture I’d like to see the graph for number of tests administered overlaid on those figures.
righto Trumpy
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Deaths should be the metric not cases.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Rapido To get a truer picture I’d like to see the graph for number of tests administered overlaid on those figures.
righto Trumpy
Weeeeell. There is a good chance that significantly greater numbers of tests might show an increase in positive cases. If it doesn’t then just blame it on China.
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@Catogrande Russisn numbers seem to go against that theory?
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@taniwharugby Trustworthy?
Edit: should also have said that it would really only be meaningful to compare Spain then and Spain now rather than v another country.
Still don’t trust any numbers coming from Pravda though 😬
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@Catogrande there is that...
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Rapido To get a truer picture I’d like to see the graph for number of tests administered overlaid on those figures.
righto Trumpy
Weeeeell. There is a good chance that significantly greater numbers of tests might show an increase in positive cases. If it doesn’t then just blame it on China.
Dont know the answer to that. Did a quick search on testing rates. But on phone.
Looks like 5% of Spain tests are coming back positive.
Belgium at 2.5% , which is reassuringly blue.Belgian data up to 4 days ago, Spain up to 7 days old. Maybe this page is not that useful , for what is a less than 7 day trend.
For context UK is 0.4%, USA is 8.2%
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@Rapido said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Jeezus. Looking at that site.
7 day average for Mexico is 80.1% of tests are positive!Could be that they're only testing people that are in hospital coughing their guts up? Numbers of tests being done/population might be an indicator of how bad that figure really is
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Covid has confirmed one thing. That the current "age" being known as the "information age" is the biggest misdemeanour of our time.
Yes, there is a lot of information. But it seems 90%+ of the information is either bullshit, opinion or statistically misleading. It seems the more we know, the stupider we are.