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@canefan said in US Politics:
@MiketheSnow said in US Politics:
@Crucial said in US Politics:
@Winger said in US Politics:
Whats this all about?
🚨🚨 POTUS: "I have a lot of enemies out there. This may be the last time you see me for a while... a lot of very, very rich enemies, but they are not happy with what I'm doing but I figure we have one chance to do it and no other President is gonna do what I do.."
I wouldn't read much into it. When Trump starts a sentence at the moment I don't think he knows how he's going to end it or what words he'll use.
Same goes for Joe
Probably why he's keeping his mouth shut right now
They should stage their debates in the local rest home. Just after ice cream and jelly time
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@gt12 said in US Politics:
he Dems will get back in power, and then any door that has been opened By Trump can be used by them.
I'd imagine the next thing we'll hear will be some Democrats talking about punishing those who voted for Trump.
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@canefan said in US Politics:
Trump recently warned that Biden will take away your guns
And his opponents go into Outrage Overdrive and obligingly back up Trump's "argument"...
New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA
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@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
Trump recently warned that Biden will take away your guns
And his opponents go into Outrage Overdrive and obligingly back up Trump's "argument"...
New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA
Its clumsy isn't it. Why not wait until after the election? I'm sure Biden's team aren't happy
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@canefan said in US Politics:
Its clumsy isn't it. Why not wait until after the election?
Thinking things thru takes second place to appearing virtuous in US politics
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@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
Trump recently warned that Biden will take away your guns
And his opponents go into Outrage Overdrive and obligingly back up Trump's "argument"...
New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA
Maybe? Or maybe just because they are a registered charity that is corrupt?
Can’t claim tax advantages and not be under the eye of a watchdog.
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@JC said in US Politics:
"Whether you call it Vote by Mail or Absentee Voting, in Florida the election system is Safe and Secure, Tried and True. Florida’s Voting system has been cleaned up (we defeated Democrats attempts at change), so in Florida I encourage all to request a Ballot & Vote by Mail! #MAGA"
So in other words, Vote by Mail is Bad and ought to be illegal unless it's being done by Republicans in which case it is excellent and to be encouraged. He is suing to stop absentee voting in Democrat-leaning Nevada at the same time as he is encouraging it in Republican-leaning Florida. He's really draining that swamp.
This is kind of the problem in a nutshell isn't it. If we do it it's fine, if they do it's terrible - even if it's the same fucking thing.
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@Frank said in US Politics:
Biden's strategy of hiding away is working quite well.
I think Trump will try to force Biden to come out and start campaigning.
Trump should start going on the liberal networks and attacking him.
This will force Biden to respond.I still think Trump is in trouble unless he starts showing a bit more humility and focus (not a lot, but a little). Copying the meaningless platitudes of Biden would be a good start. Control the wild tweets and tie Joe Biden to the radical left - relentlessly.
Frank, I don't really understand how you can continue to think that Trump is smart enough, or disciplined enough to have a change of tactics. He has one setting, and that's it. He's been persuaded / attempted to change his presentation quite a few times now, and he keeps it up for all of about 15 minutes before reverting to type, every single time. So as to your suggestions: He will attack. He will not show humility or focus. He will not control the wild tweets. He will try to tie all and sundry to the radical left.
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@Crucial said in US Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
Trump recently warned that Biden will take away your guns
And his opponents go into Outrage Overdrive and obligingly back up Trump's "argument"...
New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA
Maybe? Or maybe just because they are a registered charity that is corrupt?
Can’t claim tax advantages and not be under the eye of a watchdog.
A swamp that needs drained?I did hear a report that this action against the NRA is a result of a 6 year investigation into dodgy dealings.
NRA seems to be an organisation that represents a concept (right to bear arms) but has a deeper agenda.
Sounds familiar.
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@reprobate said in US Politics:
@Frank said in US Politics:
Biden's strategy of hiding away is working quite well.
I think Trump will try to force Biden to come out and start campaigning.
Trump should start going on the liberal networks and attacking him.
This will force Biden to respond.I still think Trump is in trouble unless he starts showing a bit more humility and focus (not a lot, but a little). Copying the meaningless platitudes of Biden would be a good start. Control the wild tweets and tie Joe Biden to the radical left - relentlessly.
Frank, I don't really understand how you can continue to think that Trump is smart enough, or disciplined enough to have a change of tactics. He has one setting, and that's it. He's been persuaded / attempted to change his presentation quite a few times now, and he keeps it up for all of about 15 minutes before reverting to type, every single time. So as to your suggestions: He will attack. He will not show humility or focus. He will not control the wild tweets. He will try to tie all and sundry to the radical left.
It's not exactly a complex psychological puzzle to figure out what he's going to do, the man is a moron.Why is this obvious to everyone except his fanboys? They all think it's part of his Machiavellian master plan
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@booboo said in US Politics:
@Crucial said in US Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
Trump recently warned that Biden will take away your guns
And his opponents go into Outrage Overdrive and obligingly back up Trump's "argument"...
New York attorney general sues to dissolve NRA
Maybe? Or maybe just because they are a registered charity that is corrupt?
Can’t claim tax advantages and not be under the eye of a watchdog.
A swamp that needs drained?I did hear a report that this action against the NRA is a result of a 6 year investigation into dodgy dealings.
NRA seems to be an organisation that represents a concept (right to bear arms) but has a deeper agenda.
Sounds familiar.
I always figured they were a shell used by the arms industry to manipulate public policy
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@reprobate 100% this ^^. I don’t know how it is that otherwise smart people continue to accept the narrative that Trump is some kind of genius based solely on the evidence of him telling them so. Of course being a real life Jed Bartlet isn’t necessary in a President, because they can get the best and brightest onto their staff to do the heavy thinking for them. But Trump thinks he is smarter than the actual smart people and ignores, alienates and fires them eventually. Apart from his family, of course, who I don’t see as being serious intellectuals either.
The fact that the Democratic alternative is a senile lightweight should be frightening for Americans I think.
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I think the actions of Americans in cities like Minneapolis, NY, Portland, Seattle, Chicago and LA speak a lot louder than one American's voice.
Nevermind what trump is saying, rather look at what is happening. Yet more provocative quotes by trump is not what ails America right now.
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@Siam said in US Politics:
I think the actions of Americans in cities like Minneapolis, NY, Portland, Seattle, Chicago and LA speak a lot louder than one American's voice.
Nevermind what trump is saying, rather look at what is happening. Yet more provocative quotes by trump is not what ails America right now.
He's the farken POTUS, and should be above the fray. Even Dubya, who people regarded as not the smartest tool even in the family shed, behaved with a degree of decorum and grace that Trump simply does not possess and that the nation needs right now more than ever
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@JC said in US Politics:
@reprobate 100% this ^^. I don’t know how it is that otherwise smart people continue to accept the narrative that Trump is some kind of genius based solely on the evidence of him telling them so. Of course being a real life Jed Bartlet isn’t necessary in a President, because they can get the best and brightest onto their staff to do the heavy thinking for them. But Trump thinks he is smarter than the actual smart people and ignores, alienates and fires them eventually. Apart from his family, of course, who I don’t see as being serious intellectuals either.
The fact that the Democratic alternative is a senile lightweight should be frightening for Americans I think.
I don't know that there are many smart people doing that?
There are a lot of otherwise smart people trying to decide the lesser of two evils though
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@canefan well we know what we get with trump, had it for 3 years precovid, it isn't going to change. Lots of bluster, bravado, nonsense talk amid a mostly functioning society and economy and a dominant stance at least, internationally.
We don't know how radical the other side is and whether they've usurped power to institutions, education, corporations, justice etc. There is also compelling evidence of a "tear it down and something great will take it's place" ideology on the democrats side.
Slagging off trump with 3 months to go does nothing to make change or address the terrible state the us is in right now.
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@reprobate said in US Politics:
@Frank said in US Politics:
Biden's strategy of hiding away is working quite well.
I think Trump will try to force Biden to come out and start campaigning.
Trump should start going on the liberal networks and attacking him.
This will force Biden to respond.I still think Trump is in trouble unless he starts showing a bit more humility and focus (not a lot, but a little). Copying the meaningless platitudes of Biden would be a good start. Control the wild tweets and tie Joe Biden to the radical left - relentlessly.
Frank, I don't really understand how you can continue to think that Trump is smart enough, or disciplined enough to have a change of tactics. He has one setting, and that's it. He's been persuaded / attempted to change his presentation quite a few times now, and he keeps it up for all of about 15 minutes before reverting to type, every single time. So as to your suggestions: He will attack. He will not show humility or focus. He will not control the wild tweets. He will try to tie all and sundry to the radical left.
It's not exactly a complex psychological puzzle to figure out what he's going to do, the man is a moron.I never said that is what he will do. Just what I think he should do.
It is frustrating for his advisors (Bill Steppien the campaign head is smart guy) because he does have strategy sessions and then goes off script. He is very fickle.
What would you give his chances of winning the election?
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