The hot takes and unpopular opinions
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Pinot noir is grossly overrated. It's bland, and the ones that are starting to taste good aren't nearly as good as a nice Cab Sav at half the price.
Shiraz is better still.
Also, it's the drink I get given by suppliers and clients every year, and so my dad (who hoovers the stuff up) does well out of it.
I'm kinda with you. cheap Pinot is fucking ordinary. A decent bottle can be nice though
If you have $20-$25 to spend on a bottle of wine, in that bracket a shiraz or Cab Sav is going to be miles superior to a Pinot
Yeah really good pinots have to be upwards of 30 bucks which I object to unless I'm visiting a vineyard and the people there are good sorts.
Black Grape Society pinot is one of my favs, but i rarely buy it at $35 a bottle
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@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Pinot noir is grossly overrated. It's bland, and the ones that are starting to taste good aren't nearly as good as a nice Cab Sav at half the price.
Shiraz is better still.
Also, it's the drink I get given by suppliers and clients every year, and so my dad (who hoovers the stuff up) does well out of it.
I'm kinda with you. cheap Pinot is fucking ordinary. A decent bottle can be nice though
If you have $20-$25 to spend on a bottle of wine, in that bracket a shiraz or Cab Sav is going to be miles superior to a Pinot
Yeah really good pinots have to be upwards of 30 bucks which I object to unless I'm visiting a vineyard and the people there are good sorts.
Black Grape Society pinot is one of my favs, but i rarely buy it at $35 a bottle
Every time I go to the rapa I prepare myself to spend a fair amount but anything too much is alot for something that you get four glasses out of ( or two if you're with the other half )
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Not possessing the sophisticated palette of others, I prefer a cheeky Merlot to a Pinot, which is a woman's grape.
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Pinot noir is grossly overrated. It's bland, and the ones that are starting to taste good aren't nearly as good as a nice Cab Sav at half the price.
Shiraz is better still.
Also, it's the drink I get given by suppliers and clients every year, and so my dad (who hoovers the stuff up) does well out of it.
I'm kinda with you. cheap Pinot is fucking ordinary. A decent bottle can be nice though
If you have $20-$25 to spend on a bottle of wine, in that bracket a shiraz or Cab Sav is going to be miles superior to a Pinot
Yeah really good pinots have to be upwards of 30 bucks which I object to unless I'm visiting a vineyard and the people there are good sorts.
Black Grape Society pinot is one of my favs, but i rarely buy it at $35 a bottle
Every time I go to the rapa I prepare myself to spend a fair amount but anything too much is alot for something that you get four glasses out of ( or two if you're with the other half )
how much do you pay for a massively over rated 6 pack of craft beer?
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@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Pinot noir is grossly overrated. It's bland, and the ones that are starting to taste good aren't nearly as good as a nice Cab Sav at half the price.
Shiraz is better still.
Also, it's the drink I get given by suppliers and clients every year, and so my dad (who hoovers the stuff up) does well out of it.
I'm kinda with you. cheap Pinot is fucking ordinary. A decent bottle can be nice though
If you have $20-$25 to spend on a bottle of wine, in that bracket a shiraz or Cab Sav is going to be miles superior to a Pinot
Yeah really good pinots have to be upwards of 30 bucks which I object to unless I'm visiting a vineyard and the people there are good sorts.
Black Grape Society pinot is one of my favs, but i rarely buy it at $35 a bottle
Every time I go to the rapa I prepare myself to spend a fair amount but anything too much is alot for something that you get four glasses out of ( or two if you're with the other half )
how much do you pay for a massively over rated 6 pack of craft beer?
I try not to go over $25......and you are right, some are bordering on diabolical. Brewers get too clever for their own good.
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@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Pinot noir is grossly overrated. It's bland, and the ones that are starting to taste good aren't nearly as good as a nice Cab Sav at half the price.
Shiraz is better still.
Also, it's the drink I get given by suppliers and clients every year, and so my dad (who hoovers the stuff up) does well out of it.
I'm kinda with you. cheap Pinot is fucking ordinary. A decent bottle can be nice though
If you have $20-$25 to spend on a bottle of wine, in that bracket a shiraz or Cab Sav is going to be miles superior to a Pinot
Yeah really good pinots have to be upwards of 30 bucks which I object to unless I'm visiting a vineyard and the people there are good sorts.
Black Grape Society pinot is one of my favs, but i rarely buy it at $35 a bottle
Every time I go to the rapa I prepare myself to spend a fair amount but anything too much is alot for something that you get four glasses out of ( or two if you're with the other half )
how much do you pay for a massively over rated 6 pack of craft beer?
I try not to go over $25......and you are right, some are bordering on diabolical. Brewers get too clever for their own good.
that's a good one
the vast majority of these small batch, small brewery beers are fucking ordinary, and they are taking the absolute piss charging $25 for 6 decidedly average beers
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@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@MN5 said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Pinot noir is grossly overrated. It's bland, and the ones that are starting to taste good aren't nearly as good as a nice Cab Sav at half the price.
Shiraz is better still.
Also, it's the drink I get given by suppliers and clients every year, and so my dad (who hoovers the stuff up) does well out of it.
I'm kinda with you. cheap Pinot is fucking ordinary. A decent bottle can be nice though
If you have $20-$25 to spend on a bottle of wine, in that bracket a shiraz or Cab Sav is going to be miles superior to a Pinot
Yeah really good pinots have to be upwards of 30 bucks which I object to unless I'm visiting a vineyard and the people there are good sorts.
Black Grape Society pinot is one of my favs, but i rarely buy it at $35 a bottle
Every time I go to the rapa I prepare myself to spend a fair amount but anything too much is alot for something that you get four glasses out of ( or two if you're with the other half )
how much do you pay for a massively over rated 6 pack of craft beer?
I try not to go over $25......and you are right, some are bordering on diabolical. Brewers get too clever for their own good.
that's a good one
the vast majority of these small batch, small brewery beers are fucking ordinary, and they are taking the absolute piss charging $25 for 6 decidedly average beers
It's extremely rare to get six genuinely good beers in a pick six which seem all the rage these days.
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@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
NZ wines are grossly overrated and fucking expensive. It's bland, and the ones that are starting to taste good aren't nearly as good as a nice Cab Sav at half the price.
Shiraz is better still.
Also, it's the drink I get given by suppliers and clients every year, and so my dad (who hoovers the stuff up) does well out of it.
FIFY.
I think you guys are just a bit fucked by being in NZ (or Oz) where everything is outrageously expensive.
However, my confession is that, when I'm at home with the oldies, I quite like the Montana South Island Pinot (winemaker series). At all of $10 a bottle, you can treat it a bit like a Beaujolais, take a few degrees of it in the fridge for 30 minutes then have a glass in the evening sun....
By the way, if you can get your hands on Etna Rosso, do it.
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@Bovidae said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@canefan I bought 2 different vintages of Sam Neill's Two Paddocks Pinot Noir a few years back. Not something I would buy regularly at that price but worth it.
I drink more Italian reds when the wider family gets together.
Thats good stuff. I'm central otago all the way for pinot, just has more body.
For cheaper buys, i agree Italian is the goods, a heap inoffensive chianti can be had for $20.
I love the Aussie reds, but find the Barossa stuff too heavy these days. Anything over 14% and I'm tasting syrup. Give me a McLaren Vale blend any day
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@voodoo said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
McLaren Vale
Wirra Wirra McLaren Vale shiraz is a ripper, especially when you get it on sale for $18
Booze in this country is fucking expensive though. The government is addicted to the taxation
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@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
craft beer is great, but the absolute best thing after any sort of activity in the sun is a cold, bland, mass produced mid-strength lager
In the scenario you describe it doesn't touch the sides so it could be anything but yeah even day old low strength Beer Hanoi on a sweaty SE Asian day like this green shit I shared with my new found drinking buddies tastes fucking beautiful. (No that's not me in the pink crocs - this crowd was too young for me)
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Snowy said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@mariner4life said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Snowy said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Serve with bacon...
spec
Speck? We might have a rare consensus. Some sort of pork product make brussels sprouts O.K?
and garlic. and butter
they are barely a vegetable by the time i am finished with them.
Roasted until they are black nuggets of crunchy bitterness offset by the fatty sweetness of the speck and garlic. Go well with beer - what doesn't?
@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
Pinot noir is grossly overrated. It's bland, and the ones that are starting to taste good aren't nearly as good as a nice Cab Sav at half the price.
Shiraz is better still.
Also, it's the drink I get given by suppliers and clients every year, and so my dad (who hoovers the stuff up) does well out of it.
Pinot really needs bottle age for the flavours to develop. But it is pricey. You can extend your argument though and say a really decent Tempranillo or Malbec is as good as a nice Cab Sauv at half the price
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@mariner4life I wont pay more than 20 for a 6 pack of beers, even at $18 I think fuck it that's over priced...def not over $15 for a 6 of something g I never tried.
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@nzzp said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@gt12 NZ Sav Blanc are expensive and often overly passionfruity, if you like that sort of thing.
FIFY
I actually agree with you if you are in NZ.
Here in Japan, the better NZ Savs are in the Sancerre price range, and up with Piedmont Arneis and other very fun (and easier to pair) wines.
The lower NZ Savs are often priced alongside Bordeaux Sav/Semillon blends, and you can find really amazing examples of them which just leave the NZ ones behind at that price point.
For example, I drink a bit of this as we pay the same for it as a Sileni Sav Blanc. It's from Chateau Beychevelle and they made an OK red too.
This link suggests that it costs about double in OZ compared to what we pay.