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@Duluth Yeah I get that. They are states as I have mentioned it several times, but for a federal election it is still done by state and electoral college which is counter intuitve for a "United States" president. That vote should be effectively be for their international leader.
Just a daft sytem to use when, as you say, they are separately governed.@Duluth said in US Politics:
Incidentally that 4 to 1 vote comment tells me that California is too large and could benefit from splitting
Or Wyoming needs a larger population base to make the electoral college representative.
This interesting:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/how-fair-is-the-electoral-college/A stateâs electoral votes are equal to the number of representatives and senators the state has in Congress. House seat apportionments are based on population and are reapportioned every decade after the census. Every state is guaranteed at least one seat in the House and two in the Senate.
@Crucial So every decade is the time frame.
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"The biggest producer of CO2 by far is China."
But per head of population it is smaller than the US
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@Snowy said in US Politics:
Just a daft sytem to use when, as you say, they are separately governed.
Less and less every year unfortunately.. which is the cause of a lot of shit
I'd hoped that after 2016 some lefties would rediscover federalism. Remember 'Calexit'? I hoped that would soften into the state reasserting it's power.
It didn't really happen
Instead we have a battle for total control. Cultural colonialism within US borders. It's gross
There's going to be millions of pissed off people after this election. I hope to see more assertive states and maybe some open defiance of unconstitutional federal overreach.
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@nostrildamus Definitley wouldn't call Ms O'Hara a minger.
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@Duluth said in US Politics:
I hope to see more assertive states and maybe some open defiance of unconstitutional federal overreach.
Yep. It is too big and diverse to function from a central government and why it was set up that way. The president should only deal with the international affairs, trade, diplomacy, etc. How come we understand this better than...well never mind.
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@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@Rembrandt i can wait, research is against fern policy! đ tbh i don't think Biden supporters care anymore about the laptop than trumps do about russia/China etc.
I'm going to check it out later and hope the mute was used well.I know its against fern policy but for posterity's sake I've done a very rough list from some of my news sources, not all, as things have streamed through pretty fast, I read stuff as it came in and not all of these links I've checked out but many I have, try and look at the references to original reporting and sources rather than the editorializing.
Hoping putting this in quotes will stop the auto-embed thing cause that might cause issues....
Evidence of dodgy Biden deals for monetary gain. https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2020/10/23/267736-n267736 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/leaked-files-show-years-of-hunter-bidens-business-dealings https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biden-elena-baturina-devon-archer-russian-oligarch-money-launder/ https://medium.com/@the_war_economy/investigation-biden-ukraine-24edb6399989 https://twitter.com/MikeEmanuelFox/status/1319312849320185857 https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/hunter-biz-partner-confirms-e-mail-details-joe-bidens-push-to-make-millions-from-china/ https://twitter.com/MikeEmanuelFox/status/1319280974044131328 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/laptop-hunter-biden-linked-fbi-money-laundering-probe https://thepostmillennial.com/emails-reveal-hunter-bidens-associate-had-investment-with-moscow-mayors-wife https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1318368421067837446 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald Ex business partner flipping sharing another huge tranche of emails confirming original accusations and the 'big guy' Joe Biden's involvement. https://thepostmillennial.com/former-hunter-biden-business-associate-says-joe-biden-is-the-big-guy https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1319223988455878659 https://www.wsj.com/articles/now-corruption-story-is-about-joe-not-hunter-11603392288 https://twitter.com/henryrodgersdc/status/1319424931659194368 https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1319423886262476800?s=28 https://twitter.com/hansmahncke/status/1319707862642425861?s=12 https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-fbi-asks-tony-bobulinski-for-interview-this-morning https://thepostmillennial.com/hunter-bidens-business-partner-asks-him-to-remove-joe-bidens-photo- from-ukraine-energy-firm-website https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1319730738951049217 https://twitter.com/mikeemanuelfox/status/1319280974044131328?s=28 https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1318298066219388928 https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/18/exclusive-peter-schweizer-hunter-bidens-flipped-business-partner-provided-26000-emails/ Emails: https://www.scribd.com/document/480513131/11-Re-urgent-issue-pdf https://www.scribd.com/document/480513130/09-Re-urgent-issue-pdf https://www.scribd.com/document/480513126/21-Re-Re-Mexico-trip-pdf https://www.scribd.com/document/480513120/15-Re-Media-reaction-to-PR-on-HB-pdf https://www.scribd.com/document/480513117/08-Fwd-ukraine-2nd-news-bulletin-pdf https://www.scribd.com/document/480513115/04-Tmrw-pdf https://www.scribd.com/document/480513112/01-note-from-Steve-Clemons-confidential-pdf https://twitter.com/MatthewTyrmand/status/1318041774447841281 Hunter now not only a degenerate crack-head but also implicated in potential possession of child-porn at best or at worst involved in such and potentially with a family member. https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1318698971729137664 https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1319755453677457409 https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1319285251575742465?s=28 https://twitter.com/ChanelRion/status/1318931828481400833 https://twitter.com/zoomerclips/status/1318758645488705536?s=28 https://www.revolver.news/2020/10/hunter-laptop-rudy-giuliani-underage-biden-family-member/ Dem's and much MSM still crying "Muh russia!!!" despite authenticity of details now confirmed from multiple sources including the FBI. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-biden-says-hunter-biden-laptop-story-is-russian-plan-despite-lack-of-evidence https://streamable.com/v7312w https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-federal-law-enforcement-confirms-hunter-biden-emails-are-authentic https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sources-tell-fox-news-fbi-has-possession-of-purported-hunter-biden-laptop https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8861635/FBI-taken-possession-Hunter-Bidens-laptops.html https://t.co/KLwIyvcbzP?amp=1 Other outlets simply choosing (NPR openly) not to cover this. https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/20/why-big-media-will-never-report-on-hunter-bidens-emails/ https://twitter.com/NBCNewsPR/status/1319348765094969345 Social media still suppressing news and banning those who discuss or share it (NYPost's twitter is still suspended, don't by Jack Dorsey's bullshit policy change), https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1316748407541837825 https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-allows-farrakhan-spencer-dictators-new-york-post-censored https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1318005673272266753 https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1319030379534188544 https://twitter.com/azachparkinson/status/1319686412158095363?s=12 https://twitter.com/emmajonyc/status/1319609837685190656?s=28 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/twitter-facebook-testify-senate-after-election-432048 https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/10/22/election-meddling-twitter-locks-account-of-trump-campaign-national-press-secretary-hogan-gidley/ google employees now on hidden camera providing further confirmation of intentional election interference. https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-google-senior-executive-there-are-many-ways-to-influence-elections https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-project-veritas-exposes-google-executive-discussing-censorship-and-election-interference/ https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-project-veritas-exposes-google-manager-admitting-to-election-influence https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1318331575852011520 Previous insiders: https://www.bitchute.com/video/g1VeElBAeas/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/uu5-VQuFU_g/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/rEZtpKZcAwQ/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/tuQBM-Ho_ds/ Suggestions other Dem's implicated including "O" whomever that could possibly be. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jim-hunter-biden-china-joint-venture-key-contacts https://twitter.com/WarRoomPandemic/status/1319407926927294467
Some links will be stronger than others and no doubt some or even a lot might in time be proven as 'bunk', but considering the bar for national mass international mainstream media scandal and multimillion dollar investigation has been set as low as "Deranged fan-fiction from anti-Trumper' then this at least is worthy of some attention.
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@Duluth said in US Politics:
Centralisation of power and a move away from federalism is the problem, not the electoral college.
That Trump talked about in the debate (re minimum wage). Hes also of the view that abortion should be decided state by state. And the response to covid was left to the states with the central Govt only providing help if needed
Its the same battle re the EU. Where the EU (and the commissioners and President = Govt are appointed not elected so worse than the US) wants to grab more and more power from the democratically elected states
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@Winger said in US Politics:
The video shows so clearly what a complete and utter joke CNN are. When Trump says the FAKE NEWS (mainstream) media... is the enemy of the people he might be on to it
Heres another short video . First hand account whistle blower (tony bodalinkshy). Surely this will finish Joe
That's some rock solid stuff man. I can tell its a big deal, because he did a diagram thingee with the numbers. It was a bit complicated to follow, so I'm really grateful that he drew it out for me.
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@Frank are those swing states places where that industry is a big deal? or do you think swing state voters will think it's anti-business/growth/jobs etc?
Not sure.
I just know Biden's current attempts to deny he was against fracking earlier means banning fracking polls very badly in the swing states (particularly Pennsylvania)
The fact that Democrats can't/won't moderate their woke liberal leanings to take the moderate middle, which is so obviously there for the taking, was always likely to resurface.
Biden fading in home straight.
How is fracking âwokeâ or âliberalâ?
Itâs a science/environment issue.
Itâs plain itâs not inherently woke or liberal, but anti-fracking is a widely held view by such types.
Itâs not purely a science/environment issue: itâs also economic. Most of the glib climate change promises are not economically viable. For them to be so requires technology which currently doesnât exist. And of course, without China playing ball itâs all rather futile.
At core, Biden is pushing âmoralâ causes even if the costs fall on the less fortunate.
Itâs very decent, but his apparent indifference to the economic impact on the electorate could be costly in the swing states.
Iâd much rather socialise with Biden, but I think itâs going to go to the wire.
"Most of the glib climate change promises are not economically viable."
Doing nothing is not economically viable.
"Most induced earthquakes are not directly caused by hydraulic fracturing (fracking). The recent increase in earthquakes in the central United States is primarily caused by disposal of waste fluids that are a byproduct of oil production."Kind of like saying most road fatalities are not directly caused by alcohol but by cars so why not drink and drive?
It's a complicated subject. At root the biggest problem with the most simplistic analyses is that a combination of increasing world population and greater economic prosperity in the third world means the world's energy requirement is set to increase strongly for the foreseeable future. There is simply no way to cope with that while decreasing reliance on hydrocarbon energy sources. The best bet would be nuclear, but that's obviously replete with its own problems.
Most of the carbon zero pledges involve some heroic assumptions, and as @winger has perhaps intimated, ignore the fact that reducing Western emissions whilst exporting manufacturing to Eastern countries ramping up massive amounts of coal production is not really achieving anything.
I'm not well informed on fracking, but somewhat skeptical that a few earthquakes in the middle of no where would be of much concern. Meanwhile, fracking has allowed the US to be oil self sufficient, which was a pretty good place to be when the price was 120 bucks a barrel.
Sensibly the West ought to be levying a steep carbon tax on dirty Eastern manufacturing, but guess what, polls suggest the populace doesn't want to pay the higher prices which would result.
I could go on.
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Interesting stuff coming out Lord Ashcroft's US Election Focus Groups in Ohio & Georgia.
Key take is many people have yet to make up their mind, there appears to be lots of shy Trump voters and neither Trump or Biden are lighting people's fires.
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@pakman said in US Politics:
Sensibly the West ought to be levying a steep carbon tax on dirty Eastern manufacturing, but guess what, polls suggest the populace doesn't want to pay the higher prices which would result.
Why take responsibility for the environment when it's thousands of miles away and you have politicians like Trump & Biden to blame?
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Fracking is highly dangerous for earthquakes (https://geographical.co.uk/opinion/item/3500-fracking-fuller), damage to the water table and methane, but also dangerous because of the lack of scientific verification on potential damages (https://www.tai.org.au/content/top-scientists-strongly-reject-fracking-inquiry-emissions-findings-call-again-ban-fracking)
But I'd like to look at this:
"Most of the carbon zero pledges involve some heroic assumptions, and as @winger has perhaps intimated, ignore the fact that reducing Western emissions whilst exporting manufacturing to Eastern countries ramping up massive amounts of coal production is not really achieving anything."
China has made a concerted effort to reduce industrial emissions. In 2018, Beijing introduced an action plan that requires 480 million tons of carbon capacity from steel production to meet âultra-low emissionâ standards by 2020. China is likewise upgrading its power grid with more efficient âultra-supercriticalâ plants, which produce more energy with less coal. This push will raise standards well past those currently in place in the US. According to the Center for American Progress, by 2020, â**every coal plant operating in the United States would be illegal to operate in China**.â
But the real kicker (for Australia, who pretends they don't add to the problem despite exporting so much coal to China) is that China does not need them any more. Coal is being phased out in China with huge danger to Australia's economy:
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@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
Interesting stuff coming out Lord Ashcroft's US Election Focus Groups in Ohio & Georgia.
Key take is many people have yet to make up their mind, there appears to be lots of shy Trump voters and neither Trump or Biden are lighting people's fires.
I'm still yet to be persuaded by a shy Trump supporter effect - some demographics may have been missed in the polls in 2016 and if anything they will be overcompensated for this time around.
It's pretty damning that no one on the republican side is talking in detail about a likely path from Trump here. At least last time the reporting was out there that Trump saw his path through the rustbelt and he campaigned there tireliessly - now it's all very general about "shy Trump supporters", "late surge" etc.
I found this reporting of the thoughts of Trump' campaign manager pretty interesting. None of the three paths he outlines seem likely.
In reporting out this story, Axios learned that Stepien has described to some colleagues that he sees at least three pathways to 270 electoral votes.
Stepien tells them the "easy partâ is winning Ohio, Florida, Georgia, Iowa and Maineâs second congressional district. From there, the first pathway, and the one he views as most likely, is for Trump to win Arizona, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
His second pathway would be for Trump to win Arizona, North Carolina and Michigan.
And pathway three â the one Stepien views as least likely of the options â does not include Arizona but involves Trump winning North Carolina, Michigan and Nevada.
Those states are where Trump will be spending the vast bulk of his time between now and Nov. 3, and where the Trump campaign is spending most of its money.The states in none of Stepien's three scenarios: Wisconsin or Minnesota.I'm inclined to believe that the first path is the only realistic one and we are going to have same moment as 2016 fairly on in the count where we see where Pennsylvania is going and it will either be game over for Trump (and likely the 'easy part' of that equation likely hasn't come together either) or it will be a shit your pants moment for the Democrats because if Pennsylvania goes Trump there is no reason AZ, NC, MI, NV cannot as well.
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I think there are shy Trump voters - just how many is the question.
Do polls take account of this?Trump is doing up to 4 big rallies per day right now. Leaving it all on the field.
If he wins, I wonder if the press will suddenly turn on Biden's work ethic.
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