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@Virgil said in US Politics:
Proof??
If he has any he'll present to the court and they'll evaluate it
If he doesn't, the court process will be quite short
There's a process for settling a dispute. I'm sure there will be counter claims etc
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@ACT-Crusader enough to re-turf at least 10 rugby fields! there needs to be an investigation! Fake grass, dopey dirt!
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“The best thing for America’s future is for @realDonaldTrump to go to total war over this election to expose all of the fraud, cheating, dead/no longer in state voters, that has been going on for far too long,” Trump Jr. wrote
is now the time to trust people to take the term "total war" as a metaphor?
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
for a leader of a country to so unashamedly throw out claims of corruption so widespread as to effect a national election without providing any evidence other than anecdotal is so tasteless, to indiscriminately call out his own citizens
He could so mush more easily just lodge his legal challenges and when ask simply say there had been too many rumours to ignore and wanted to make sure things had been undertaken correctly
the needless public accusations just stink of getting in some shots before loosing the spotlight
Biden on the other hand imploring people to keep calm and that the count and legal processes will work
He just gave an absolutely bonkers press conference, I have not seen anything like it. His claims were just ludicrous, claims he has won the states that he has clearly lost. In one fell swoop he is trashing the US democratic system. He is what some of us always knew he was.
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@ACT-Crusader said in US Politics:
@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@Chris-B take it to the courts!! I mean the fields!!
Unfortunately for @Chris-B there is strong evidence of large amounts of money changing hands in the great state of Ta$man...
I've been telling everyone for months - we are one of the least spending provinces. Haven't I been saying that Newt? And every other year, that Deloittes report has been out by now. But, the corrupt NZ rugby union - they don't want me to be vindicated.
I mean everyone can see how they've stolen our Ranfurly Shield challenges. And Joe Moody - he should never have been a prop in that semi....
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@Kiwiwomble was that on Twitter or another platform?
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I hereby claim, for mitre 10 cup points sake, a win over the rugby unions of Southland and Ta$man
thats how this works aye?
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@Paekakboyz twitter
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@Kiwiwomble ha ha watch how fast the ban hammer arrives if Biden does indeed win.
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Holy fucking batshit-crazy-mango-man did he just actually accuse the Dems of suppression?
Trump? The guy who mailed in his vote but said mail in ballots are fraudulent? Who appointed a GOP Postmaster General and started stripping back resources in US Mail ?
Wow. Just fucking wow. He's got some big nads under that tiny little penis.
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
“The best thing for America’s future is for @realDonaldTrump to go to total war over this election to expose all of the fraud, cheating, dead/no longer in state voters, that has been going on for far too long,” Trump Jr. wrote
is now the time to trust people to take the term "total war" as a metaphor?
Wow, what an irresponsible little fluffybunny
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
for a leader of a country to so unashamedly throw out claims of corruption so widespread as to effect a national election without providing any evidence other than anecdotal is so tasteless, to indiscriminately call out his own citizens
He could so mush more easily just lodge his legal challenges and when ask simply say there had been too many rumours to ignore and wanted to make sure things had been undertaken correctly
the needless public accusations just stink of getting in some shots before loosing the spotlight
Biden on the other hand imploring people to keep calm and that the count and legal processes will work
It’s hard to reconcile his approach, especially for a Kiwi or Aussie that have lived largely with very conservative and non-controversial approaches to politicking.
I don’t pretend to know what’s in Trump’s mind and nothing really shocks me when it comes to politics, but I can understand his approach if you were to put yourself in the shoes of the millions of republican voters that are being bombarded with polling and reporting of polling by media outlets that don’t question or critique and say that things are a foregone conclusion. This is the sort of thing that fires up voters and there would be a strong sentiment for ‘their leader’ to come out fighting and swing a few punches.
This isn’t about the rights or wrongs of the approach, but it a strategy that would resonate.
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I'm not sure if Betoota is satire or reality these days...
"The US President has today vowed legal action against the system that elected him, and demanded that officials keep recounting the votes until he wins."
President Who Was Initially Elected With Less Votes Than Opponent Claims The System Is Rigged
WENDELL HUSSEY | Cadet | CONTACT
The current President of the United States has today called the system that elected him rigged.
Speaking earlier, the former host of Celebrity Apprentice has accused electoral officials of blatant fraud and trying to ‘steal’ the election off him.
Donald Trump’s team say they have filed lawsuits in Pennsylvania and Michigan, laying the groundwork for contesting the outcome in undecided battleground states.
Despite the fact he was elected with 46.1% of the popular vote (which was less than his opponent’s popular vote share) and handed the keys to the white house because of the Electoral College system, the President is now adamant that the system is rigged.
With the key battleground states looking tight, and Biden tipped as the favourite to now win the race, Trump has amped up the rhetoric around the election somehow being rigged against him.
While his claims weren’t being trotted out for a couple of hour window mid-afternoon our time when it looked like he was going to get another four years, Trump has since demanded that the votes be recounted until they go in his favour.
It’s not known how many states he wants re-counted and whether he wants the states where he narrowly won recounted.
More to come.
For a man whose supporters like to think is outside 'the swamp', Trump is just like any other politician at picking and choosing when he thinks the system suits him.
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Maybe Trump should ask North Korea and Russia to provide peacekeeping troops to the US to ensure free and fair elections and the democracy to flourish
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@NTA said in US Politics:
@voodoo I think if I was any of the Trumps I'd be a little wary of using the words "fraud" or "cheating".
Why, so Twitter and Facebook can ‘censure’ them?
The legal test is a little different in the US than here in OZ. You wouldn’t throw an allegation like that as a politician unless you had the protection of parliamentary privilege.
Bear in mind the allegations were thrown out in a very general sense rather than a specific individual so defaming or libel is a little challenging there.
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Somehow I'm supposed to believe that the Democrats have possibly managed to pull off the heist of the century in stealing the presidential election (maybe), while not doing the same thing in any of the state elections in a redistricting election or in the Senate?
Seems remarkably incompetent competence to me.
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@voodoo said in US Politics:
“The best thing for America’s future is for @realDonaldTrump to go to total war over this election to expose all of the fraud, cheating, dead/no longer in state voters, that has been going on for far too long,” Trump Jr. wrote
So how long is far too long? the last election too, or before then? If so, why wasnt it addressed in the last 4 years?
Or is 'far too long' the last month or so?
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I was wondering if the Donald is voted out, whether Don Jr eventually winds up in prison, over the Russia thing. With new Attorney General etc.
But, thinking it is bad precedent, to chase those too hard after they leave office. In case it incentives someone one day to decide they wont leave office, if it is safer for them and family to stay in at all costs.
But, did Don Jr just tweet an incitement to a coup?
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