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There has doubtless been administrative bungling and probably smallish scale fraud.
But, I refuse to give credence to the idea that the Democrats have somehow manufactured 600,000 votes in Pennsylvania to overturn Trump's lead and hope to get away with it.
And somehow they've managed to do similar things in a number of other states including Georgia which is apparently administered by Republicans.
We're not talking about Mugabe's Zimbabwe here!
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@Kirwan said in US Politics:
I guess my point is just because Trump is a clown doesn't mean he's wrong.
There 100% has been fraud in this election, but that statement is true for every election. Election fraud is as old as the hills and both sides play to the limit and often beyond it.
The question you have to ask is the scale and nature of the fraud, and the perpetrators. You'd be naive to think it's the big bad Democrats stuffing ballots in Philly while the innocent GOP just stand there reading the rule book.
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
@Kirwan how would sending out ballots stop them voting?
You'd need to send out ballots, intercept the mail, then return them on their behalf so that when they go to vote in person, both their votes get invalidated.
Seems simple enough to do a few hundred thousand times over...
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@voodoo said in US Politics:
@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
@Kirwan how would sending out ballots stop them voting?
You'd need to send out ballots, intercept the mail, then return them on their behalf so that when they go to vote in person, both their votes get invalidated.
Seems simple enough to do a few hundred thousand times over...
In half a dozen states, some administered by the enemy...
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Oh the Dems have definitely cheated. There is no way the cities have more people than the masses of good ole' country folk with pitchforks and anti-tank artillery!
Plus there is no way that low-charisma and won't travel-to-infect-us-all Biden could get so many votes. When Donald would drive interstate to yell at us all crowded together, with a soul so generous he'd give any one of us the virus-stained shirt off his back..
It is almost like some of them cityslickers turned out just because they hate Trump. Say it ain't so!
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@nostrildamus said in US Politics:
Oh the Dems have definitely cheated. There is no way the cities have more people than the masses of good ole' country folk with pitchforks and anti-tank artillery!
Plus there is no way that low-charisma and won't travel-to-infect-us-all Biden could get so many votes. When Donald would drive interstate to yell at us all crowded together, with a soul so generous he'd give any one of us the virus-stained shirt off his back..
It is almost like some of them cityslickers turned out just because they hate Trump. Say it ain't so!
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@nostrildamus and @canefan is this a double whoosh or some inception level irony/sarcasm!?
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@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@nostrildamus and @canefan is this a double whoosh or some inception level irony/sarcasm!?
Think harder. The truth is there
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@voodoo said in US Politics:
@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
@Kirwan how would sending out ballots stop them voting?
You'd need to send out ballots, intercept the mail, then return them on their behalf so that when they go to vote in person, both their votes get invalidated.
Seems simple enough to do a few hundred thousand times over...
Yep and make sure every single mail out ballot went to a Dem voter not a Rep one. Sounds easy as
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@canefan said in US Politics:
@Paekakboyz said in US Politics:
@nostrildamus and @canefan is this a double whoosh or some inception level irony/sarcasm!?
Think harder. The truth is there
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@canefan said in US Politics:
Some Republicans are railing against Trump's calls to halt counting as well
Those would be the Republicans that want their party back. It would be interesting to see if they could fashion a policy platform that would sufficiently attract enough votes.
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Can you imagine if the republicans dropped him next time and he ran as an independent
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
Some Republicans are railing against Trump's calls to halt counting as well
Those would be the Republicans that want their party back. It would be interesting to see if they could fashion a policy platform that would sufficiently attract enough votes.
They are treading a tightrope because Trump's GOP got a lot of votes, those voters could turn against the haters
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
Can you imagine if the republicans dropped him next time and he ran as an independent
Please no
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@canefan said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
Some Republicans are railing against Trump's calls to halt counting as well
Those would be the Republicans that want their party back. It would be interesting to see if they could fashion a policy platform that would sufficiently attract enough votes.
They are treading a tightrope because Trump's GOP got a lot of votes, those voters could turn against the haters
Exactly. So what's the solution? The same message eloquently delivered. The perception of administrative competence and not having record numbers convicted of lying to Federal investigators.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
Some Republicans are railing against Trump's calls to halt counting as well
Those would be the Republicans that want their party back. It would be interesting to see if they could fashion a policy platform that would sufficiently attract enough votes.
They are treading a tightrope because Trump's GOP got a lot of votes, those voters could turn against the haters
Exactly. So what's the solution? The same message eloquently delivered. The perception of administrative competence and not having record numbers convicted of lying to Federal investigators.
His cult of personality is huge. Can the GOP rump be weaned off their rich diet of gobshite and sensationalism
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@canefan said in US Politics:
@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
Can you imagine if the republicans dropped him next time and he ran as an independent
Please no
Please yes. Split the Republican vote and Democrats romp through the left
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@nzzp said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
Can you imagine if the republicans dropped him next time and he ran as an independent
Please no
Please yes. Split the Republican vote and Democrats romp through the left
It would be Perot x 100
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