Coronavirus - UK
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - UK:
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
I read somewhere that German doctors were furious they had the vaccine but were barred from administering it until the EU Commission gave the go-ahead.
Imagine just handing over your sovereignty like that.
Less sovereignty for me, more handing over control of public health issues to unelected bureaucrats who think it a great idea to put politics before peoples lives in the middle of a pandemic.
In a nutshell my biggest bugbear with EU is responsibility without accountability. Like being run by the civil service.
Funnily enough Margaret Thatcher's wanted the EU run by a professional civil service but answerable to the European parliament. Not such a bad idea in retrospect.
It's not?
IMO no, not a bad idea, but maybe I didn’t explain it very well. The idea was that you would have an elected and accountable set of policy makers with a professional civil service implementing policy. This rather than having an unelected and unaccountable group shaping and implementing policy with a largely irrelevant elected parliament.
Well, that’s one view anyway.
It sounds a bit "Yes Prime minister" either way. You still end up with Sir Humphrey running the show.
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Oxford AstroZeneca vaccine approved.
Mass roll-out planned to start next week with 5-10m doses available straight away.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
Oxford AstroZeneca vaccine
Hopefully just in the nick of time.
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Hi I'm R. L and I'm a Tier4ian!
Yawn with me. Refused to watch the news earlier but everyone and their mother decides to text me and say how grim everything is. Love hearing that obviously. Haven't looked at the figures don't intend to. We saying biiiig lockdown soon right, as in no schools? Our primary can stay open even in tier 4 as not high enough but doubt that will last long. I just don't get it any more, I don't get any of it, all this hokeycokeying in out in out. Argh.Hope you are all well and uninfected in your parts of the UK (or world-"all in this together")
Having a preventative Baileys (aka fat alcohol), not preventative in the slightest but that's my excuse,and is like drinking a glass of merriness! It's still Christmas time right? -
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
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so what are the restrictions?
From what I gather from the 2nd hand info from MRs TR when she talks to her parents is that it still isnt as strict as what we had back in March?
Mrs TRs dad has sold his house (in Herts inside M25) is moving North (Staffordshire) and is still allowed to move (think he needs to be out in 2 weeks)
Those new daily case numbers in the UK are just crazy!
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Meanwhile in Tier 4 Wales, in the Brecon Beacons: "One man drove nearly 200 miles from Hertfordshire to walk up Pen-y-Fan, while a minibus of mixed households had travelled to the area from Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, "to see the snow", according to Dyfed-Powys Police.
Any more of this and I'll need to do a rant in Grumpy Old Men thread...
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
I'm doing both. Railing against the lockdowns, and also against the authorities for not putting place proper penalties for those who break the rules and cause them to be extended.
Case in point, 9 ppl from the Northern Beaches here decided to ignore restrictions, and travelled out of the zone to a wedding. Including the bride and groom.
They got fined 1k each.
Whoop-de-fucking-do
Fine these pricks $50k and put them in jail for a week, and then we will see how many more break the rules. Suspect not many and then we can get the fucknout of lockdown.
As an aside, there hasn't been a new case in the "Southern Northern Beaches " (a new zone invented by our Premier) in days, and yet we remain locked in our little area and unable to entertain, go to the gym, eat out.
Its pretty fucked
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - UK:
@voodoo lockdown follows you!
Yeah @voodoo make sure you stay of Qld!
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - UK:
@voodoo lockdown follows you!
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An old friend reminded me today of when I dropped out of uni for 6mths to go snowboarding. First Turoa erupted, so I had to go south. Then it didn't snow at Cardrona for 6 weeks straight. I ended up working as a liftie back at Turoa when it opened then working in insurance in Palmie for the summer!
I should NOT be taking time off anything again!
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I find it near unfathomable to understand the impact covid-19 is wreaking in the UK. Where I am it's basically a non-event with some (almost) insufferable overreach from politicians.
Hopefully you all get through this with the least amount of embuggerance.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
I don’t recall Wales being ‘closed’ in November 2003.
Quite the reverse I'd have thought. You lot were back from Australia sometime before us
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
@R-L said in Coronavirus - UK:
"all in this together"
Seemingly not. Had an email from the UK bemoaning lockdown and all the constraints but have to do what's necessary to curb the outbreak etc. Message ended with "we'll probably break it on New Years Eve but we'll only have a few people over".....
Not a winning attitude. When will people stop railing against these lockdowns and realise the best way out of them as soon as possible is to do what they need to and follow the rules?
Here in the UK I’m finding it hard to deal with the fact that I have normally sane , rational old friends that have blatantly and consistently, broken the COVID rules over the year. Makes me question my relationship with them. Despite everything going on (I live in the Sth East with some of the highest infection rates in the country), they're hosting a party (albeit small and I’m not attending!) tonight. So hypocritical when a couple of them have v strong socialist views that they’re not afraid to voice.
It’s just fucking weak and so selfish. I wish they’d take some personal responsibility; it’s not like the rest of us don’t want to socialise and have more freedom. I read a BBC report today from an intensive care Dr who said people like my friends, ‘have blood on their hands’ as intensive care units will be totally fucked within 2 weeks, not because of the new virulent strains but because the basic rules are not being adhered to.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
I don’t recall Wales being ‘closed’ in November 2003.
Quite the reverse I'd have thought. You lot were back from Australia sometime before us
Well played