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@taniwharugby said in US Politics:
I follow the PGA on FB and man they are copping it for thier decision to bin an event at a Trump course (although there seem equally as many who applaud the decision, then the ones who dont care either way)
PLenty of people claiming they wont watch golf anymore, already stopped MLB, NFL etc...what you gonna watch then?
IMO PGA could have done it quieter, simply move it and claim it was done as the other course was better, woulda had much less fall out even if people read between the lines and saw it was due to Trump.
I think there was a contract and they had to state a reason to renege under the conditions of the contract. I assume there was a provision for 'if the PGA would suffer reputational damage' or similar.
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@Crucial guess it depends when the contract expires, cant imagine they would have renewed it in the past few years at least? Still think it could have been done better.
I havent seen similar outcry about boycotting The Open, which I think ruled out using Turnberry, although they had not used it since Trump took over ownership anyway.
R&A chief executive Martin Slumbers said in a statement: “We had no plans to stage any of our championships at Turnberry and will not do so in the foreseeable future.
“We will not return until we are convinced that the focus will be on the championship, the players and the course itself and we do not believe that is achievable in the current circumstances.”
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@taniwharugby said in US Politics:
I follow the PGA on FB and man they are copping it for thier decision to bin an event at a Trump course (although there seem equally as many who applaud the decision, then the ones who dont care either way)
PLenty of people claiming they wont watch golf anymore, already stopped MLB, NFL etc...what you gonna watch then?
IMO PGA could have done it quieter, simply move it and claim it was done as the other course was better, woulda had much less fall out even if people read between the lines and saw it was due to Trump.
But they'd lose the ability to virtue signal...
I've got a different view. Do it and announce why, or don't do it.
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Have to feel for businesses a bit. Denounce Trump and piss millions of people off. Don't denounce him and its the same. Rock plus hard place.
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@No-Quarter said in US Politics:
Have to feel for businesses a bit. Denounce Trump and piss millions of people off. Don't denounce him and its the same. Rock plus hard place.
lets not forget, people will shout as loud as they can theyre going to boycott something...and they will...until it becomes inconvenient or they just forget theyre supposed to be mad about something
same deal with all the people that said they were going to leave the US if Trump won last time...I doubt many did
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@Kiwiwomble said in US Politics:
@No-Quarter said in US Politics:
Have to feel for businesses a bit. Denounce Trump and piss millions of people off. Don't denounce him and its the same. Rock plus hard place.
lets not forget, people will shout as loud as they can theyre going to boycott something...and they will...until it becomes inconvenient or they just forget theyre supposed to be mad about something
same deal with all the people that said they wee going to leave the US if Trump won last time...I doubt many did
Haha yeah a lot of it is just noise, businesses would probably do well to just completely ignore any blowback on social media as the mob will pretty quickly move on to the next thing that triggers them.
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also wonder if they figure it'll boost, or at least not harm, their international market.
Trump might start up his own golf association and tour just to fuck with them.
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@Paekakboyz his house of cards is crumbling around him...
Plenty of big businesses distancing themselves.
Aon is the latest financial business to cut ties with the president. Earlier this week, Professional Bank said it won’t do more deals with the business and Signature Bank said it would close Trump accounts holding about US$5.3 million.
On Wednesday, New York City said it would end all business with the organisation, a move that Eric Trump, the president’s son, said the group plans to fight. The PGA of America’s board also voted to end an agreement to host next year’s championship at a golf course owned by Donald Trump, just days after rioters stormed the US Capitol.
Companies including JPMorgan Chase & Co. have been pausing donations from political action committees after last week’s attack on the Capitol. American International Group Inc. announced Wednesday that it would suspend its limited PAC activity for the foreseeable future and review relationships with trade associations to make sure policies are aligned.
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@taniwharugby ha ha the operative words around the donations are 'pause' and 'suspend'. Once there is a bit of clear air (months? years!?) from the Trump regime it's more than likely the traditional GOP donators will resume normal practice.
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@taniwharugby said in US Politics:
@Crucial guess it depends when the contract expires, cant imagine they would have renewed it in the past few years at least? Still think it could have been done better.
I havent seen similar outcry about boycotting The Open, which I think ruled out using Turnberry, although they had not used it since Trump took over ownership anyway.
R&A chief executive Martin Slumbers said in a statement: “We had no plans to stage any of our championships at Turnberry and will not do so in the foreseeable future.
“We will not return until we are convinced that the focus will be on the championship, the players and the course itself and we do not believe that is achievable in the current circumstances.”
From what I read the situation is very different. R&A simply had Turnberry on a list of possibles and could decide who to contract to host. PGA had actually contracted Trump's course to host and have torn it up.
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@taniwharugby said in US Politics:
I follow the PGA on FB and man they are copping it for thier decision to bin an event at a Trump course (although there seem equally as many who applaud the decision, then the ones who dont care either way)
PLenty of people claiming they wont watch golf anymore, already stopped MLB, NFL etc...what you gonna watch then?
IMO PGA could have done it quieter, simply move it and claim it was done as the other course was better, woulda had much less fall out even if people read between the lines and saw it was due to Trump.
Saw a piece that PGA has close links with Chinese course which is associated with CCP. Do they pass the PGA acceptability threshold?
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@pakman the daft thing is, many of these companies could still associate themselves with him (banks, AON etc) purely for the business, and I expect for privacy reasons most would be none the wiser, but instead they make a big sweeping public statement which then causes conflict with say 30% of the public, makes 33% happy and then the rest are like seriously, WTF!
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@pakman said in US Politics:
Not sure this is right place for it, but Coon cheese, an 86 year old Aussie favourite, has been rebranded because of its racist connotations.
Founded by Edward William Coon, but now called ‘Cheer’.
Always made me laugh when I saw it on the shelf. Just my dark sense of humour
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@canefan said in US Politics:
@pakman said in US Politics:
Not sure this is right place for it, but Coon cheese, an 86 year old Aussie favourite, has been rebranded because of its racist connotations.
Founded by Edward William Coon, but now called ‘Cheer’.
Always made me laugh when I saw it on the shelf. Just my dark sense of humour
Any Coons left?
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@taniwharugby said in US Politics:
@pakman the daft thing is, many of these companies could still associate themselves with him (banks, AON etc) purely for the business, and I expect for privacy reasons most would be none the wiser, but instead they make a big sweeping public statement which then causes conflict with say 30% of the public, makes 33% happy and then the rest are like seriously, WTF!
Maybe they thought he was always a fluffybunny to do business with but were scared to ditch him. Now they're just jumping on the bandwagon - or should that be deserting the sinking ship?
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@pakman said in US Politics:
Not sure this is right place for it, but Coon cheese, an 86 year old Aussie favourite, has been rebranded because of its ‘racist connotations’’.
Founded by Edward William Coon, but now called ‘Cheer’.
Brand name apparently after the founder. No racial connotations
Annoys me.
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