Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If the shoe was on the other foot Morrison's lot would have no qualms about shipping her out
except kiwis can come here quarantine free
not sure why that isn't reciprocal
Because we can't trust the aussies to do the right thing! 🙄
trust in your dear leader, she'll keep you safe
I didn't vote for her, but at this point I'll take my chances with her over Morrison
based on?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If the shoe was on the other foot Morrison's lot would have no qualms about shipping her out
except kiwis can come here quarantine free
not sure why that isn't reciprocal
Because we can't trust the aussies to do the right thing! 🙄
trust in your dear leader, she'll keep you safe
I didn't vote for her, but at this point I'll take my chances with her over Morrison
based on?
Just coz mate. Just coz
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@donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Ahh, the one way travel bubble with Oz that closes immediately at the first sign of a community case. Still a long way to go on both sides of the Ta$man on that one.
I don't believe there is any genuine will at the NZ end to get a 2 way bubble opened until vaccinations are complete
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@voodoo I am told, (from a source very close to the Beehive), that despite the PR the Aussie govt has no wish for a two way travel bubble with N.Z. They see no upside for Australia but lots of downside as Aussies starved of international; or even inter-state, travel flock to for a little RnR.
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So she is being released now, do we trust that if she started feeling sick with Covid symptoms, that she would have told anyone?
“I really just want to go home but my intention is to see these legal proceedings through,” said Baulch.
Shoulda just sent her home.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo I am told, (from a source very close to the Beehive), that despite the PR the Aussie govt has no wish for a two way travel bubble with N.Z. They see no upside for Australia but lots of downside as Aussies starved of international; or even inter-state, travel flock to for a little RnR.
the federal tourism minister told me the exact opposite a week ago. He was hoping by the end of March, but seemed resigned to later
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@taniwharugby she knew the rules before she left. I don't see why they didn't just send her back as soon as she failed to consent to the first test
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo I am told, (from a source very close to the Beehive), that despite the PR the Aussie govt has no wish for a two way travel bubble with N.Z. They see no upside for Australia but lots of downside as Aussies starved of international; or even inter-state, travel flock to for a little RnR.
the federal tourism minister told me the exact opposite a week ago. He was hoping by the end of March, but seemed resigned to later
I don't think both of you can be right......
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@mariner4life That's interesting. Can't see it happening before Q3 at earliest. Look at my tipping results and it'll show what a prediction sage I am....
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life That's interesting. Can't see it happening before Q3 at earliest. Look at my tipping results and it'll show what a prediction sage I am....
i agree that i thought his target was wildly ambitious. And this was before Melbourne's last little hiccup. Or Auckland's for that matter
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo I am told, (from a source very close to the Beehive), that despite the PR the Aussie govt has no wish for a two way travel bubble with N.Z. They see no upside for Australia but lots of downside as Aussies starved of international; or even inter-state, travel flock to for a little RnR.
If that stance was to come out publicly, it would be extraordinary. They're basically saying, that despite seeing no health risk (as evidenced by allowing NZers to come to Oz quarantine-free), they are prepared to lock in their citizens from travelling to this safe zone,
for purely economic reasons?That is totally fucked up
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life That's interesting. Can't see it happening before Q3 at earliest. Look at my tipping results and it'll show what a prediction sage I am....
So we are saying Mariner's intel is probably more reliable?
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life That's interesting. Can't see it happening before Q3 at earliest. Look at my tipping results and it'll show what a prediction sage I am....
So we are saying Mariner's intel is probably more reliable?
dude, i was told something by a politician, what possible reason could you have to doubt it...
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo I am told, (from a source very close to the Beehive), that despite the PR the Aussie govt has no wish for a two way travel bubble with N.Z. They see no upside for Australia but lots of downside as Aussies starved of international; or even inter-state, travel flock to for a little RnR.
If that stance was to come out publicly, it would be extraordinary. They're basically saying, that despite seeing no health risk (as evidenced by allowing NZers to come to Oz quarantine-free), they are prepared to lock in their citizens from travelling to this safe zone,
for purely economic reasons?That is totally fucked up
also, when you think about it, it involves the Aus Government saying to the NZ gov't "yep, kiwis can come here. But can you guys keep your end quarantined though? It'll be better for both of us economically. Sure, we will be able to take the high road and show our border is open, but you guys can afford the hit..."
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo I am told, (from a source very close to the Beehive), that despite the PR the Aussie govt has no wish for a two way travel bubble with N.Z. They see no upside for Australia but lots of downside as Aussies starved of international; or even inter-state, travel flock to for a little RnR.
If that stance was to come out publicly, it would be extraordinary. They're basically saying, that despite seeing no health risk (as evidenced by allowing NZers to come to Oz quarantine-free), they are prepared to lock in their citizens from travelling to this safe zone,
for purely economic reasons?That is totally fucked up
also, when you think about it, it involves the Aus Government saying to the NZ gov't "yep, kiwis can come here. But can you guys keep your end quarantined though? It'll be better for both of us economically. Sure, we will be able to take the high road and show our border is open, but you guys can afford the hit..."
It's fucking outrageous
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What I was told was from a senior advisor to the govt and reflects his interpretation of what he has been told by govt figures about what they think Aussies true position is.
Obviously Aussie aren't going to acknowledge it, but I would give it some credence. It looks very familiar to our own position re places like the Cooks. Nothing in it for us - so why bother?
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
What I was told was from a senior advisor to the govt and reflects his interpretation of what he has been told by govt figures about what they think Aussies true position is.
Obviously Aussie aren't going to acknowledge it, but I would give it some credence. It looks very familiar to our own position re places like the Cooks. Nothing in it for us - so why bother?
look, i'm not dismissing it, i just can't marry that view with the fact that the Aus border is currently open to NZ quarantine free. If NZ dropped their quarantine this weekend, what would the Aus response be?
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@mariner4life and I'm not saying it's accurate I was just passing on what I heard. Your scenario about NZ relaxing the border at the moment raises an interesting scenario but one that no one would give any credence to.
Kiwi's have been able to travel to Singapore without quarantining for months. It's the two weeks when you get back plus having to pay that turns people off. Plus ya know Singapore closed doesn't sound all that peachy.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo I am told, (from a source very close to the Beehive), that despite the PR the Aussie govt has no wish for a two way travel bubble with N.Z. They see no upside for Australia but lots of downside as Aussies starved of international; or even inter-state, travel flock to for a little RnR.
the federal tourism minister told me the exact opposite a week ago. He was hoping by the end of March, but seemed resigned to later
I don't think both of you can be right......
This is politics, of course they can