50 Years of Star Trek - RIP
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I spoke too soon, STD is all over the damn place. Second episode was an aberration, with some seriously uneven writing going on in the rest. They pack too much in an episode, everybody defies the captain (who is great when given something to do) with no consequences.
It’s such a shame, this is going to get canceled because they seem to dislike the fan base.
Anyway, the last episode of the Orville was some of the best sci fi I’ve seen in years. And to make my point, my 11 year can’t get through one episode of Disco but he woke me up to tell me about how good the the last episode of Orville was and couldn’t wait to talk about it after I’d seen it.
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The guy who wrote that episode is a producer on that Orville. Other TNG/DS9/VOY producers, writers, directors, and actors have been involved with it too.
The Orville isn't very ambitious, but they do know how to tell a story and create characters.
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@Tim said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
The guy who wrote that episode is a producer on that Orville. Other TNG/DS9/VOY producers, writers, directors, and actors have been involved with it too.
The Orville isn't very ambitious, but they do know how to tell a story and create characters.
I think it’s less about lack of ambition and instead a clear vision for what they want to do.
The huge irony is that The Orville is taking on some pretty weighty topics that STD is clearly thinking they are doing.
Simple fact is you can show strong female characters without pushing down men. And you can write stories that cover sexism, racism, prejudice, religion and still be entertaining.
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@taniwharugby said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
@Kirwan is that S2 of The Orville you are talking?
About that awesome episode? Yes.
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@taniwharugby said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
@Kirwan cool, I havent started S2 yet.
It's quite brilliant.
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@Kirwan said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
new co-showrunner
Yeah, this is the 4th show-runner team now? Hopefully they go in a new direction. Especially with how Kurtzman has talked about how he wants to be more high-level management for several Trek shows.
Heard something interesting today. Apparently in Fuller's original treatment, the mushroom stuff was going to be about the use of advanced fungal colonies to terraform planets. Nothing to do with ghosts, the afterlife etc ...
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@taniwharugby Apart from a couple of flat episodes, The Orville has been pretty good this year. They are better at telling one major story per episode, and creating relatable characters.
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@taniwharugby said in 50 Years of Star Trek:
yeah a few in S1 were flat too
Season 2 has a higher "good ep" hitrate so far, IMO. I think that any sci-fi show that does old Trek style "idea of the week" stories is going to be a bit hit or miss. The "misses" are a lot better with a good cast of characters though.
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BTW @Kirwan, you might be interested in this:
It's Michael Piller's short book about how his production of Star Trek: Insurrection went wrong, despite best intentions from all involved. Pretty good outline of how movies are made (from the writing and planning, rather than filming, point of view).