Call to Arms (and Stomachs)
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[quote name='Nick the Aussie']<br />
Mods - ban him for negative comment <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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Watch it matey, or you'll have a whole heap of extra time to exercise due to being banned!! -
Oddly I think I have the power but not (presently) the inclination <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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Unfortunately Just is as thin as a rake <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> -
[quote name='Miller V Jackson']<br />
Oddly I think I have the power but not (presently) the inclination <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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Unfortunately Just is as thin as a rake <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /><br />
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Actually MvJ, I could stand to lose a couple of kilos, might join in too -
I'm gonna contribute to this weight goal setting.<br />
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Current weight: 76 kg (6ft tall)<br />
Goal weight in 3 weeks: 78 kg.<br />
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You see, I have been travelling in asia recently and lost almost 10kg in 10 weeks even including eating and drinking more than I would at home. I have a very heavy fortnight of drinking coming up with O'week so if I can only gain 2 kg then it will be a huge success. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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Exercise regimen: couple of push ups and chin ups here or there, plus rugby training once or twice a week.<br />
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Diet: stop drinking... yea right. cut out the soft drinks maybe a option. (just add a shot of whiskey to every glass of coke?). -
[quote name='dK']<br />
Housework?? I'm sure sex burns more calories :nta[/quote]<br />
Theres always one with their mind in the gutter!!! Yes, sex burns lots of calories but don't want you lot keeling over with heart attacks if you're as overweight and unfit as you seem!!!!! -
[quote name='Mrs Sheahan']<br />
[quote name='dK']<br />
Housework?? I'm sure sex burns more calories :nta[/quote]<br />
Theres always one with their mind in the gutter!!! Yes, sex burns lots of calories but don't want you lot keeling over with heart attacks if you're as overweight and unfit as you seem!!!!! <br />
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How quaintly victorian in attitude, to consider the idea of sex as to 'In the gutter' -
I don't know about being unfit now. I for one might be a fat front-row but I'm very fast over 10 meters, even considered a speed merchant in some circles.<br />
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What does this have to do with sex I hear you ask?<br />
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Nothing.<br />
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[quote name='ParcDesPrinces']<br />
I don't know about being unfit now. I for one might be a fat front-row but I'm very fast over 10 meters, even considered a speed merchant in some circles.<br />
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What does this have to do with sex I hear you ask?<br />
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Nothing.<br />
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Although a 10m head start can be pretty useful when you're stuck in a bad blind date.<br />
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Not gonna help though if she's got the stamina to wait 'til your pace drops off then take you (apply whichever connotations seem best to the last part of that sentence) -
Well, if she still goes after me after seeing me run out of the pub screaming like a girl and collapsing on the pavement like a beached walrus after just 10m then maybe she's earned her 2.5mns of Pdp lovin'.
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[quote]Waaaaay ahead of you, boys.<br />
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Started a 1-year diet on January 1, 2006.<br />
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Height: 180cms<br />
Age: 37 yrs<br />
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Was: 97 kgs<br />
Am now: 89 kgs<br />
Target: 81 kgs (playing weight)<br />
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You're not going to like this, but, rule number one is no alcohol. But I was drinking about a six-pack a night, so if you aren't, then maybe this isn't so important.<br />
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Rule number two is to make a bet with one of your mates, or all of the Fern, about whose going to lose more weight. Non-financial bets that involve pain and/or humiliation are best.<br />
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Rule number three is ignore all the bloody stupid diets out there, stick with the current best science and just reduce your total kilojoule intake slightly (5% - 10%). If you seriously do this, and try to get that 10% especially from fatty foods, you will lose weight.<br />
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Rule number four is moderate exercise. Don't jump into a program that you can't sustain. Take it easy, try to do something every day - quick walk or 20 sit ups / push ups plus a weekly game of touch footy or squash or whatever.<br />
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Anyway, that's what I reckon.[/quote]<br />
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Probably the best adice yet - just start slow and work into it - no matter how hard out you feel like going, and important to have a day off both working out and eating right - a junk day all round. But start slow, baby steps, and work your way into it.Like DR, but even further back, I started this January 2005, and have lost the kilo a month pretty much down to pretty muhc playing weight. So baby steps, baby steps... -
[quote name='Miller V Jackson'] I love that running / sprinting routine you've got nutted out there Red Bull. That is going to be modified by MvJ for his own purposes! I have the same issues with long runs-- sore shins-- but also cronic boredom. Quite like sprints though, so a mixure is the obvious idea. So obvious I never bloody thought about it until now [/quote]<br />
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glad I could be of assistance to you Uncle Miller. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Your inspirational thread has really invoked some spirit and determination amongst the Ferners, so well done there mate.<br />
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I must say though that last nights 1 hr 20 min touch footy game saw me disturbingly lethargic and lacking spark for the first half hour, but as the game wore on, the pace and energy I've been striving to develop gradually returned. Don't know why it took so long, cos I didn't have a big weekend or anything? :nta -
ok I will join in;<br />
aim to move down from a comfortable 89Kg to 80, but 85 is probably more realistic :nta -
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I must say though that last nights 1 hr 20 min touch footy game saw me disturbingly lethargic and lacking spark for the first half hour, but as the game wore on, the pace and energy I've been striving to develop gradually returned. Don't know why it took so long, cos I didn't have a big weekend or anything? :nta[/quote]<br />
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Anaerobic versus aerobic. I get a similar thing on the bike as my regular track after a bit of flat work (2km) goes upwards for about the next 3km and I feel like I'm going to die. I'm not sure exactly how it works but in layman's terms you start off using the grunt in your muscles, because its the most efficient way to get short-term use out of them. Then when your body realises you're serious about this and aren't going to stop, it forces you to breathe deeply, which is why you get puffed. Its trying to recover oxygen to get out to the muscles. Then after a lot of huffing you break through the balance of anaerobic versus aerobic and your breathing essentially keeps up with your muscles' demands for oxygen (saturation point). its also called "second wind". -
yep OK Nick, that makes sense to me....well explained. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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So with short bursts of speed when you're already fucked and sucking in the big ones, is that anerobic or aerobic? Is a training regime that develops both, a good thing? :nta -
Anaerobic is generally your muscles doing stuff on limited oxygen, using the power they "carry around" with them I guess you could say. Aerobic is your body moving on full oxygen flow which is why you have that peak time puffing your cheeks out but then settle back into a regular breathing rhythm. If you do muscle workout, you will be developing more anaerobically because you're using strength rather than endurance. But you're still using oxygen of course. I guess that's the simplest equation for it:<br />
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Aerobic = endurance<br />
Anaerobic = strength<br />
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But there's a bit of overlap e.g. you'll hit your aerobic balance point into the middle of the game but then have to pack a scrum and while you're using a lot of the strength in your legs and torso you're still breathing deep regularly. That's why exercise programs that use both weights work and fitness work prove more effective for aerobic endurance than a program that uses purely fitness work. Someone posted the results of a study up here about it where the people doing e.g. treadmill and circuit weights increased their fitness much more than those doing treadmill and bike. -
Any Kiwi posters watching that Human Potential or whatever its called on Monday nights. Caught it last night - lot of stuff on this sort of thing. Quite interesting. Showed what happens when you free dive or the relative drag between a wolloen swimming costume and the latest shark suits. Threw a guy in 10o water a showed the body's reaction.<br />
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All I know about anaerobic and aerobic is that if you do endurance and are lean you burn muscle and your sweat smells like cats pee. -
Bart, I believe that clear piss means your body is close to full hydration, and when it's very yellow, your body is dehydrated. <br />
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Obviously this is not the case when you've been on the booze and you're pissing clear, because alcohol actually is a diuretic.