MotM vs South Africa, II






  • ALB, BBBR and Coles. With a special mention to the other 20 blokes.



  • ALB. Brodie and Read



  • Coles, Whitelock and ALB.



  • This ALB looks the business doesn't he!

    ALB, Big Beast Brodie Retallick, Read....but pretty much anyone could have had a vote today.



  • @taniwharugby said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    This ALB looks the business doesn't he!

    ALB, Big Beast Brodie Retallick, Read....but pretty much anyone could have had a vote today.

    Really? I know the score said otherwise but that was a really inaccurate sloppy performance for a lot of the time. I thought there were quite a few players that shouldn't even be on the voting list, either for playing poorly or not really imposing themselves.
    TJP was a microcosm of the overall performance. Scored a brace but had a crap game otherwise. I haven't seen an AB halfback pass that badly since forever (and I praised his passing last week)

    My votes went to ALB, Kaino and Coles



  • @JayCee said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    ALB. Brodie and Read

    Ditto



  • ALB, Coles, Read

    Both locks outstanding also.



  • Reads first half was terrible and he's getting points?

    ALB, BBBR, and Squire



  • @Crucial said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    @taniwharugby said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    This ALB looks the business doesn't he!

    ALB, Big Beast Brodie Retallick, Read....but pretty much anyone could have had a vote today.

    Really? I know the score said otherwise but that was a really inaccurate sloppy performance for a lot of the time. I thought there were quite a few players that shouldn't even be on the voting list, either for playing poorly or not really imposing themselves.
    TJP was a microcosm of the overall performance. Scored a brace but had a crap game otherwise. I haven't seen an AB halfback pass that badly since forever (and I praised his passing last week)

    My votes went to ALB, Kaino and Coles

    Yes overall pretty sloppy, and as such I felt plenty were in t he same boat...some good with bad





  • ALB, BBBR and BB.

    I know BB had a bad night with the boot, but he scored a couple of tries and set up a few more.



  • I gave a Dagg a vote. Just thought I'd mention it.



  • ALB, BBBR. BB controlled the game well and chipped in with a couple of trademark tries of his own. If he'd kicked his goals he'd be there too



  • @Crucial said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    @taniwharugby said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    This ALB looks the business doesn't he!

    ALB, Big Beast Brodie Retallick, Read....but pretty much anyone could have had a vote today.

    Really? I know the score said otherwise but that was a really inaccurate sloppy performance for a lot of the time. I thought there were quite a few players that shouldn't even be on the voting list, either for playing poorly or not really imposing themselves.
    TJP was a microcosm of the overall performance. Scored a brace but had a crap game otherwise. I haven't seen an AB halfback pass that badly since forever (and I praised his passing last week)

    My votes went to ALB, Kaino and Coles

    I thought we dominated across the park in the first half and the stats back that up. You can't do that with only a couple of guys playing well. At no stage did I think SA were in the game at all, they never looked close to scoring.

    A few handling errors and wrong decisions on attack were annoying but come with the territory of playing a risk/reward attacking game.

    Gezz you're a tough ask. 9 tries to fucking NIL in SA!



  • @No-Quarter yea but this isnt a historical Bok team, they are rubbish. Great result, but imagine the score if we had a goal kicker and a more composed first 40.



  • I think a huge part of the SA game missing is physicality.
    Few years ago these games in SA were brutal. Fans were rabid. And the boys would look battered and bruised afterwards.
    Regardless if your game plan is shit, you can still hit hard. Not so much right now.



  • @mariner4life said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    @No-Quarter yea but this isnt a historical Bok team, they are rubbish. Great result, but imagine the score if we had a goal kicker and a more composed first 40.

    Fair enough re the Bok team.

    We've been searching for that 80min performance all season. As it is, when everything clicks we only need 20 mins to completely blow opposition teams off the park. As you say if we click for the full 80... look out.



  • Wow votes for Ben Smith. Just watched the test again and I'm a huge fan of Bender, but that was his worst test by some margin. Out of the starters I would've had him at 15th.



  • @No-Quarter said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    @Crucial said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    @taniwharugby said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    This ALB looks the business doesn't he!

    ALB, Big Beast Brodie Retallick, Read....but pretty much anyone could have had a vote today.

    Really? I know the score said otherwise but that was a really inaccurate sloppy performance for a lot of the time. I thought there were quite a few players that shouldn't even be on the voting list, either for playing poorly or not really imposing themselves.
    TJP was a microcosm of the overall performance. Scored a brace but had a crap game otherwise. I haven't seen an AB halfback pass that badly since forever (and I praised his passing last week)

    My votes went to ALB, Kaino and Coles

    I thought we dominated across the park in the first half and the stats back that up. You can't do that with only a couple of guys playing well. At no stage did I think SA were in the game at all, they never looked close to scoring.

    A few handling errors and wrong decisions on attack were annoying but come with the territory of playing a risk/reward attacking game.

    Gezz you're a tough ask. 9 tries to fucking NIL in SA!

    As I said, the result and score seems at odds to what I watched. I don't know if that is a result of a poor Boks team crumbling or the ABs still managing to be way better than other teams even when they are not humming.
    All I know is that when watching the game I was getting frustrated at how discordant the ABs seemed to be. Passes weren't going to hand, 50:50 balls didn't have the right person in the right place, TJP looked like he had dipped his hands in KY before the game, even Reado was fumbling the ball on the ground. Players were getting isolated turning the breakdowns into a shambles etc etc.
    I just feel that if we play like that against a team with a bit more steel to them we will be relying on a moment of magic to come off in order to win rather than just to add to the mounting score.
    I think there really is a danger of the Convicts giving us a scare at EP. Psychologically the ABs must be feeling that they can walk over anyone even when being sloppy. The Wallabies will be dragging their shackles into town with a growing confidence and knowledge that dumb tactics aren't going to win. Getting in our faces defensively and busting a gut for 80 though, will see them gain some real credibility.



  • That first half was definitely frustrating to watch. The ABs seemed to make easy yards and half breaks but would stuff it up with poor handling and having to scramble to clean up. Often promising movements would end up with SA booting it back down field. The last 30mins were a lot better when things started to stick and they grew in confidence.

    Will be interesting to see how the final game plays out. ABs won't be lacking motivation with the consecutive record/nonrecord and Edan park record on the line. They don't seem to like the Wallabies much so that should also give them a boost. A smith will be wanting to have a big game too if he is in the team.
    Similarly the Wallabies will be wanting to get pay back for the first two games. Question is whether they can actual turn up and play some decent rugby. It was only a week ago that they got beaten by THAT Bok team so it remains to be seen.



  • I went for BBBR, ALB and BB.
    Barrett had a nightmare with the boot (from tee and from hand in the first half) but his passing was sublime in putting players into the gaps and his running was something the Boks could not match.
    ALB is class. This is the start of a long career with the All Blacks I reckon.
    BBBR was massive and into everything. He is one of the main reasons why the AB are so dominant.



  • I thought the first half the AB's displayed an arrogance that suggested they were in danger of believing their own press.

    Sure impose yourself but there were too many poor options no look off-loads, spilled balls etc

    I was really fucked off at half time.

    Sure SA were awful and never looked like being in the game but despite it blowing out at the end with 20 mins to go we were only one intercept away from it being all tied up. Which to me spoke volumes about how unforced errors were keeping the BOKs in the game.

    Last quarter was pretty good 🙂 but is that the worst Bok rabble ever?



  • @dogmeat I commented in the match thread - noted the ABs were being pretty loose with ball carrying at times, but the saffas were specifically targeting the expected offloads and trying to spoil the ball anyway possible. It was pretty smart... until the ABs corrected it.



  • I went BBBR, ALB and Crotty.

    There's no way I could reward Read for his first half performance, neither Ben Smith who had his worst game in living memory.



  • ALB, BBBR and Coles. Squire very close to a vote but I think Coles gets the nod as he had influence while the game was still in the balance (on the scoreboard at least).



  • @Crucial said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    @taniwharugby said in MotM vs South Africa, II:

    This ALB looks the business doesn't he!

    ALB, Big Beast Brodie Retallick, Read....but pretty much anyone could have had a vote today.

    Really? I know the score said otherwise but that was a really inaccurate sloppy performance for a lot of the time. I thought there were quite a few players that shouldn't even be on the voting list, either for playing poorly or not really imposing themselves.
    TJP was a microcosm of the overall performance. Scored a brace but had a crap game otherwise. I haven't seen an AB halfback pass that badly since forever (and I praised his passing last week)

    My votes went to ALB, Kaino and Coles

    I gotta say I thought that was one of Kainos worst games! he just looked off the pace and tired I was hoping he'd get yanked earlier than he did... Cant remember seeing him get held up in the tackle carrying the ball like that before either.

    Loving ALB - gotta say I never thought he was that amazing at the Chiefs - but fuck me has he stood up and grabbed his chances with both hands. Biggest difference between him and Fekitoa is that instead of trying to do everything himself he looks to free up those outside him.

    Agree on TJ - annoying when you read articles saying he's really putting pressure on smith.. err no.



  • Whitelock doesn't get enough love, because Retallick is killing it. That lineout take for the maul try was just superb



  • @Tordah Gotta agree - while Squire was excellent off the bench, I don't think he was close to the performance Whitelock put in - yet the voting doesn't seem to reflect that.



  • In Crotty and ALB we have the first choice midfield combo for the rest of the year, the young centre is one of the surprise packages this season



  • Retallick the force, ALB the flair, Crotty the glue.



  • @Tordah there was a tackle in the 2nd half that Whitelock put on a saffa forward that sent him backwards. It was a real bonecruncher.



  • Retallick - workrate
    Barrett - despite the woeful goal kicking
    Squire - great impact off the bench


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