5km Times



  • [table:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][tdo=5:vtecgat2]5kmTimes[/tdo:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2][b]Name[/b][/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2][b]Time[/b][/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2][b]Date[/b][/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]Bart[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]17:35.0[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]27.06.07[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]Mogwai[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]18:47[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]30.05.07[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]Cyclopath[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]19:45.7[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]14.10.07[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]PropCyril[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]19:06[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]06.11.07[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]Kirwan[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]21:18[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]28/8/09[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][tr:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][td:vtecgat2]-[/td:vtecgat2][/tr:vtecgat2][/table:vtecgat2]



  • Well I really don't know whether to be happy or not. Twice in the last week I have sat down & gone "I am doing a sub 40 minute 10km" (for the first time in ages) & both times I have done a PB 5km & stopped to avoid throwing upÂ

    Never ever thought I would break 19 minutes but then I did genuinely come very very close to chucking in doing so, and after sitting for 5 minutes to get my heart rate down from 180 left the gym very slowly...  Â



  • Great effort Mogs! Seriously good time.



  • Fark thats a big improvment on your old times. Are you doing something different with your technique or are you just rowing more often?

    I assume your 10k of 42mins won't stand for much longer..



  • [quote name='Duluth']
    Fark thats a big improvment on your old times. Are you doing something different with your technique or are you just rowing more often?

    I assume your 10k of 42mins won't stand for much longer..
    [/quote]

    The 42's not a PB, I've done a few 39.40's just not recently. Probably just need to easy off at the 4km mark & coast for 5km or so to break 40 again, rather than carry on flat out & be trashed.

    What I've started doing gain lately (well last 2 months) is weights, used to just purely row, hadn't done weights in about 2 years so I guess that'll help as in that time I've been rowing 30 - 50 minutes (usually I just do 10km) 6 days a week, so my fitness is up & now I'm getting a bit more strength too.

    More than anything I think its just the fitness.

    Basically I'm a shortarse - 5 foot 6, so I'm never going to be fast over a short distance so I've always just tried to do the long stuff but I guess ultimately once you get the fitness up you can go flat out for longer over the short times. Buggered if I know really.Â



  • yeah, well done Mog - the trick now is to just put those two PB's together with no break in between them...  :coolsmiley:

    It's all in the mind....



  • Ever have one of those rows where it feels 'easy'...??

    Rowed twice yesterday at gym, fiurst time in morning, a 30 minute piece, clocked 8,000 which was not too bad - a good 'honest' row I call it - not ball busting, but knowing you have had a decent woprkout.

    Anway, then went back in eveniong when Mrs BartMan went to pump, plan to do an easy 5k befre hitting the pools and waiting for Mrs.Â

    That's where the easy kicked in - was cruising along at under 1:50 with no effort, so dug in, and got seasons best time - still 30 seconds outside PB, but was happy.  Will have to start digging in and getting some pain under the belt and getting times again.



  • Nothing is easy at the moment, summer has kicked in & its all hard work.
    😁

    Using a gym too you realise how important it is to get a rower that has a tight smooth running chain, getting on a shit rower can destroy your whole time. My gym has 2 great ones & 2 someone has fecked the hell out of



  • [quote name='mogwai']
    Nothing is easy at the moment, summer has kicked in & its all hard work.
    😁

    Using a gym too you realise how important it is to get a rower that has a tight smooth running chain, getting on a shit rower can destroy your whole time. My gym has 2 great ones & 2 someone has fecked the hell out of

    [/quote]

    Same at my gym. Got my concept delivered for the weekend, and the difference between that and the ones at the gym is amazing, so smooth.

    Now all my crap times are just due my poor fitness



  • yeah, my 7 million plus metre rower is certainly harder to row on - but a good training machine now - when I hit the gym ones, it is lightning on wheels!!  or rollers and spinning wheels things...

    Might have to look at upgrading my home rower when finances permit!!



  • [quote name='BartMan']
    yeah, my 7 million plus metre rower is certainly harder to row on - but a good training machine now - when I hit the gym ones, it is lightning on wheels!!  or rollers and spinning wheels things...

    Might have to look at upgrading my home rower when finances permit!!
    [/quote]

    Can you just tighten the chain up on them? Thats always what seems to go



  • I had a dabble on the rows (Copncept 2) this weekend past. Jeez you buggers are fit!!!

    Mt fitness is piss porr after 5 months not being able to run, but looking at your times shows just how much i am unfit!

    Am going to start getting involved with this section of the site methinks. Will post piss poor times soon.



  • Yeah Mog, or get a bit of maintenance done on it - that would probably be cheaper!!

    Fuller - great for fitness - no impact on your ankles / body.

    Instead of that long 40 minute run, do a row.  But for your shorters stuff - you still gotta run, get your muscles used to running as well as rowing - but would have to help fitness in general..



  • [quote name='BartMan']
    Yeah Mog, or get a bit of maintenance done on it - that would probably be cheaper!!

    Fuller - great for fitness - no impact on your ankles / body.

    Instead of that long 40 minute run, do a row.  But for your shorters stuff - you still gotta run, get your muscles used to running as well as rowing - but would have to help fitness in general..
    [/quote]

    All I do is row & bike, I played touch the other night, did a sprint & my quad totally seized up. Realised I probably haven't run in a year. Everyone went "yeah, YOU'RE fit you broken muppet". It was not good.

    [quote name='Fullermorg']
    Mt fitness is piss porr after 5 months not being able to run, but looking at your times shows just how much i am unfit!
    [/quote]

    Its really all in the rhythm eh, its very similar to swiming, if you get the action right & smooth you can just cruise along, if you action is all over the place its pretty much impossible, most people give it up without ever getting the action right, timing knees & hands so they don't colide or worse so you have to do some weird camel hump in the stroke REALLY seems to throw people



  • Good advice as always boys. Will try it out on Sat, or maybe after a chest session this evening.

    I promise to put up my time no matter how feckin shite.



  • Uhhhh i promised to put up a time for the 5km today....but i didn';t make it to teh finish line.  I did it Sat after a shoulder/back weights session which might not have been the brightest thing to do.

    However i only managed around 2.5km.

    You guys are fit hombres!



  • 19:01.6

    Yes, 1.6 seconds off getting under 19 minutes for only the 3rd time ever  😢

    Got 300m out & was doing 1:46 & just needed that to hit 18:58 & then realised I was going to pass out if I didn't ease off. Never a good look.



  • lol, go for the pass outÂ

    Well done!



  • Just home from 19:51.2 - my first under 20 min. I tried something different - upped the rating, slightly shorter stroke, went harder 1st half (all the things you guys suggested elsewhere) and it worked. Slightly stuffed though, but I am 40!! And 2 weeks.



  • Well done!  Always good to get under the 'industry standard'!!

    Try a few 6km pieces, it is amazing how quick you will get to 5k on the way to the 6.  and when you sit to go for a 5k time, you will have much more in the tank as you go into that last 1000m.

    Probably.....



  • [quote name='BartMan']
    Well done!  Always good to get under the 'industry standard'!!

    Try a few 6km pieces, it is amazing how quick you will get to 5k on the way to the 6.  and when you sit to go for a 5k time, you will have much more in the tank as you go into that last 1000m.

    [/quote]

    Yeah that does work a treat, you get used to doing even fairly slow 30 minutes or 10kms or 8kms & then you go back & do a 5km & kick the crap out of your PB

    Top work getting under 20 mins, even better on the new C2's because they have the memory on them & in a gym you can look & mentally section yourself off from everyone else, sod all people do sub 20min 5k's.Â



  • Forgot to post this 2 weeks ago - 19:45.7 for the 5k. Since had bronchitis Not game to take the beast on again yet.
    Oct 2nd to be precise.



  • [quote name='cyclopath']
    Forgot to post this 2 weeks ago - 19:45.7 for the 5k. Since had bronchitis Not game to take the beast on again yet.
    Oct 2nd to be precise.
    [/quote]

    Thats proper fast, crap timing of the illness tho! I haven't done a decent time in months, blame the cricket, the champions league & the WC, I've been cylcing so I can watch the gym TV instead. Nothing much to watch now....Â



  • Rowers in my gym right in front of TVs (always 1 or 2 on sport, biggest one on music but often a good eyeball anyway!!). Cyclists have to watch us!! Then again, I do that too, as the name suggests. Been out on the road a couple of times since the bronchitis - not pretty, especially when the airways loosen up a bit :icon_puke_l: :icon_puke_r:



  • Not sure if any of the concept2 forum ferners saw the thread in the sports section the other day but Rob Waddell unofficially broke a world record for the 5km times - 14.59 minutes. An average split of around 1.29m/500m



  • nope, did not see that, but legend.  I don't think I can even get down that low for any amount of time / distance, let alone 5k!!



  • 17:34.9

    there is an online challenge going on at the moment whcih my 'free spirits' team is paret of for 5k rowing.  That is my latest effort.  Takes 5 rowers to float a boat, three heavy weights, a lightweight man, and a woman.

    My time slots me into the second boat.  The best time from FS, and second best time over all is 16:24.  best time in challenge is 16:16.

    These guys are nuts!!



  • hey bart what setting do you row on when doing 5,000 m?

    somehow got roped into a surf boat team.. thought it was just for pissing around but the rest of my mates want to do it proper like and apparently we went alright for punters that have never rowed before..

    but back to my original question - my mate who's into it (off to to worlds in biarritz, rows for piha) was saying that he rows with the setting on 5.. i thought he'd be yanking it on the highest setting (he's bout 6'5 115kg)

    anyway i've been told i need to do a sub 17:30 pronto.. am worried that your best ain't under that time and you do it all the time!

    as well as the fact i have no time to get into this rowing lark, as i said i thought we were just going for a blat.. not actually super keen, check out the pic attached from a  race at piha this year!



  • Think my PB is 17:20, managed a 17:22 a month or so ago, but is murder to get down to those times - A good hard row is the 18 minute mark, like going for a run when you are not cruising, but not going all out either - just a good hard training!

    When going for those sorts of times I row on a setting of 4 - read somewhere that is the 'on the water' setting.  But when I first was rowing was always on 10, and was only a few seconds outside those sorts of times even then - as in 20 seconds, so maybe quite a few!!

    Something to practise on longer rows is keep your rate down - 20-24 SPM, but keep the pace at your normal pace.  So when you increase the SPM back to your normal (for me between 28-30), you fly!!

    But being a taller bigger bloke, you will probably row comfy with a slower SPM than me anyway, being a short arse.



  • sweet cheers i'll give it a nudge.. just joined the gym again.. took a while, hated the thought of having to pay after getting a free membership with my last job..



  • once your hooked mate, it's all downhill...



  • [quote name='BartMan']
    once your hooked mate, it's all downhill...
    [/quote]

    yeh just got to keep up with my "mentor"...

    he's only sitting at no 2 in the world at the mo on the concept 2 site or whatever it is. pussy. 😁

    2
    Matt Kirke
    35
    Auckland
     
    NZL
    500
    1:20.1
    IND



  • fuckin hell.

    I don't think I can get the rower down to 1:20 for one stroke, let alone 500 metres!!!!!

    fuck sake, insane.



  • Well, after being away from the Concept 2 for a while, then easing back in with 10 min and 2k attempts, as well as a few leisurely longer rows I decided to have a crack at the 5k again. I managed a couple of times under 20 mins but that was over a year ago and I doubted I had it in me.
    Managed 19.50 today - tried Barts advice of getting the average under 2 mins / 500 early and holding it and it worked. I was about as close to throwing up as I have ever been on the rower - not a good look for a 41 year old. They'd probably all assume I was having a heart attack!
    Now I have to get under the 19.45 which I did last year.
    Bart, Mogs, Cyril - I don't know how you guys do it, but I take my hat off.



  • Well done cyclo.

    Another little trick that I have for rower at the gym which gives you your average per 500m as well as your current split over the latest 500 - or whatever diustance you set it for ai think on the flash concepts.

    ALways keep your current split .1 below your average.  So averaging 1:59.5, jeep your split at 1:59.4.  Average keeps dropping lower, so you keep rowing faster, and faster, and faster....Â



  • Well Bart, took your advice - got the average started under 2.00 / 500 m and just kept at or under it.
    Finished with 19.41.6. I reckon I could have gone a bit quicker too - I felt less nauseous at the end than i normally do!
    Finally got a new PB at the 5 km.



  • Nice work Cyclo. I can never keep to below my average because I try to do the first 500 quite hard to get a "head start". As such, my average is purely aspirational for most of the row. Generally, about 3/4 of the way through, my average catches up to what I have been rowing at and I try to go under it from there knowing the finish line is in sight.



  • I tried that strategy once - didn't actually finish the 5 km! Started looking very shabby at about 3.5 k and decided to avoid losing my lunch! xzxbad



  • Last week, 19.35.2. Slowly getting better.



  • Nice work. I'm yet to try a 5km.


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