Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final



  • Scott Barrett won't be playing for Canterbury on Sunday.

    Because Brodie Retallick suffered a head knock against the Aussies, and a decision on whether he joins the squad will be made after he has undergone concussion protocols later this week, the All Blacks don't want to put themselves in a situation where they could run short of second rowers. That means Barrett must travel immediately.
    

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/85712997/new-all-black-scott-barrett-scrubbed-from-canterbury-team-for-final-against-tasman



  • Hansen doing his best to keep the NPC competitive



  • @ACT-Crusader said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    Hansen doing his best to keep the NPC competitive

    Or Dean Mumm's elbow ... 🤔



  • How is Jordie Barrett getting the full apprentice experience if he doesn't jet out with the squad on Friday night?

    He's getting a sort of "Aaron Cruden expurgated version". It bodes ill for the future!

    I am outraged! 🙂

    On the plus side, the removal of Scott Barrett evens things up for Hansen giving Taranaki the use of Naholo.

    Not if you're a Canterbury supporter, of course, but then again...who is? Those b'stards have got enough resources.



  • TAB has Canterbury at $1.26, Tasman $3.75

    The teams haven't even been named yet! 🙂

    I'm a bit concerned at the number of Makos who hobbled off vs Taranaki. Samu, Koloamatangi and Fonotia - with Makalio, Strange and Havili already out.

    We need some of these guys back to be any chance.



  • @Chris-B. Fonotia tweeted this on Sunday:



  • Canterbury line-up for the final:

    1. Daniel Lienert-Brown, 2. Ben Funnell, 3. Siate Tokolahi, 4. David McDuling, 5. Dominic Bird, 6. Reed Prinsep, 7. Tom Sanders, 8. Luke Whitelock (c), 
    9. Ereatara Enari, 10. Richie Mo'unga, 11. George Bridge, 12. Rob Thompson, 13. Jordie Barrett, 14. Nathan Earle, 15. Johnny McNicholl (vc).
    
    Reserves: 16. Nathan Vella, 17. Alex Hodgman, 18. Oliver Jager, 19. Jed Brown, 20. Billy Harmon, 21. Jack Stratton, 22. Inga Finau, 23. Ben Volavola.
    

    http://canterburyrugby.co.nz/news/344-canterbury-team-to-play-tasman-in-the-final



  • Is that all you've got, Canterbury?

    Well, it looks extremely beatable! 🙂

    Looks like "rusty" Rob Thompson is back just in time to cover the absence of Goodhue.

    Bit light on locks - I'm guessing there would be a bit of panic in the supporter ranks if either Bird or Mo'unga hobbles off. Or Luke Whitelock for that matter - he's been very good this year.



  • @Chris-B. said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    Is that all you've got, Canterbury?

    Well, it looks extremely beatable! 🙂

    Looks like "rusty" Rob Thompson is back just in time to cover the absence of Goodhue.

    Bit light on locks - I'm guessing there would be a bit of panic in the supporter ranks if either Bird or Mo'unga hobbles off. Or Luke Whitelock for that matter - he's been very good this year.

    Did I tell you that Volavola is due.....



  • @ACT-Crusader said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    Did I tell you that Volavola is due.....

    I wouldn't mind finding out if you're right...or not. 🙂



  • Here's us...

    Tasman Makos team for NPC final: Mitchell Hunt, Viliami Lolohea, Kieron Fonotia, Alex Nankivell, James Lowe, Marty Banks, Billy Guyton; Pete Samu, Shane Christie (captain), Shannon Frizell, Quentin Strange, Alex Ainley, Ross Geldenhuys, Andrew Makalio, Tim Perry. Reserves: Jesse MacDonald, Kane Hames, Siua Halanukonuka, Pari Pari Parkinson, Ethan Blackadder, Finlay Christie, David Havili, Caleb Makene.



  • Really shit day in chch today, I'm gonna need a few pre game warm ups I think 🙂

    Tasman were great up front last week and banks has a far superior kicking game to Richie.

    Looking forward to a good battle in the forwards



  • Tasman have got this.



  • A couple of interesting selections in this team.

    Nankivell starting ahead of Havili - that's a big call by the guy who's going to be Crusaders' backs coach.

    Strange starting ahead of Parkinson. With Bird playing for Canterbury, I would have been tempted to go with Parkinson's extra height - though Strange has done a pretty good job so far this season.

    A few important starting changes from the first time we played Canterbury:

    Makalio for MacDonald, Ainley for Lepa, and Samu for Fredericks. We also lost Frizzell very early in that match.

    In the Backs - Guyton, Nankivell and Lolohea are in for Christie, Havili and Faingaanuku.

    Generally significantly stronger. A particularly important upgrade is Halanukonuka on the bench for Blair Princep.

    Basically the strongest team we can field except Fredericks and Koloamatangi are injured and Squire with the ABs. Only one of those three would have started if available, another might have kept Frizzell and Blackadder off the bench.



  • @Mokey said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    Tasman have got this.

    Not the way "my" teams have gone so far. Otago and the Cubs both going down and Buller at the plate and trailing.

    Makos and Black Caps still in the Bullpen - but, I'm steeled to go 0-5 for the weekend! 🙂



  • @Chris-B. said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    A couple of interesting selections in this team.

    Nankivell starting ahead of Havili - that's a big call by the guy who's going to be Crusaders' backs coach.

    Isn't Havili returning from injury? Maybe that's the reason? Or he's not 100% yet?



  • @Stargazer said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    @Chris-B. said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    A couple of interesting selections in this team.

    Nankivell starting ahead of Havili - that's a big call by the guy who's going to be Crusaders' backs coach.

    Isn't Havili returning from injury? Maybe that's the reason? Or he's not 100% yet?

    Yeah - he had one game out. But, you'd think if he's fit to sit on the bench he'd be fit to start.

    Certainly a vote of confidence in the young guy.



  • Ack. Had to mute the anthem it sounded so bad.

    C'mon Tasman!



  • Far too many errors and far too much dumb play.

    A somewhat strange conspiracy of events results in Ainley getting a deserved card.

    We need to survive the next 10 minutes without leaking points and come home on a wet sail and dominant scrum.



  • Pretty much. Fucking dumb shit to get the card, and the last thing Tasman needed, a man down.



  • Banks is having a shocker



  • VERY lucky it's only a yellow.



  • Try! Woot. Good teamwork. 29-20 to the bad guys.



  • YESS great moment to score Mo, just when they looked like they thought they had a chance. Best 10 on the field tonight by a long way.

    36-20 to the bad guys' big brothers.



  • 36-27 to the bad guys. Both teams alternating brilliant and shit.



  • And Marty Banks rattled bigtime. Not having a very nice day at all, is he.



  • Tasman have put up a great fight but they have made a few to many errors.



  • Any truth to the rumour Banks had his whole Treviso salary on Canterbury to win?



  • Any chance just thrown away. Far too many soft errors.

    Lots of endeavor but, in the end, a very disappointing effort.



  • Lowe was disappointingly quiet.



  • Mo'unga had an excellent game, standout performance, and in a way only served to highlight Banks' shortcomings.
    Cant help but think Shag and Co could have made some room on this EOYT for Mo'unga, think they missed a trick there. Only hope he stays in NZ



  • Pretty unfortunate that Marty saved up possibly his worst ever performance for the biggest stage.



  • Awesome game, Tasman caused plenty of problems but didn't get enough points. Richie Mo'unga has to be MOM, defense on our own line for long periods was awesome, Tasman valiant but dare I say it missing the professional edge.



  • @Crash said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    Mo'unga had an excellent game, standout performance, and in a way only served to highlight Banks' shortcomings.
    Cant help but think Shag and Co could have made some room on this EOYT for Mo'unga, think they missed a trick there. Only hope he stays in NZ

    At least he's in the second reserves in Europe (Barbarians).

    I don't think Mo'unga will go anywhere soon after one year as the first choice 10 at the Crusaders. I also think we will see him in black if he continues developing and improving the way he's done this last year. If the ABs want to develop DMac as a 9, and Jordie as a midfielder, I don't see any reason why they can't bring in Richie as a new 10 to challenge the current top 3. Even if Cruden stays until 2019, he will be goneburgers after that. Also not sure how long Sops will be prepared to wait his turn.



  • Tasman didn't do themselves any favours in that game. So much dumb/poor play. Banks had a shocker. Lowe was pretty poor too for someone who was being talked up as possible AB (by some) earlier this year.

    Richie Mounga was probably my MOM but would like him to show that consistenyly at Super level before being talked up as an AB. We are hardly short of 10's.
    I like Jordies goal kicking. Hopefully he can give BB some tips on the Eoyt and over xmas.
    He put in some big tackles too.

    Luke Whitelock finally delivering on the promise the ABs coaches obviously saw years ago. Who knows where he fits in but hopefully he keeps improving.



  • Well my highlight of the night was sitting down to find Andrew Mehrts and Reuben Thorne sitting next to me! What a great couple of guys, happy to chat and passionate Canterbury blokes too

    The best kind of final to watch, when your team is winning from the start and never really in danger of winning.

    Mouaga was excellent, Dom bird my player of the day. Why is he not considered for higher honours?



  • @SammyC Not sure exactly but he's currently got a broken foot and he's taking shots to play with it. He's having surgery to fix it in the off season.

    I think he's on the radar and is aiming for a big season with the Chiefs to get him back in there.



  • @SammyC said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    Well my highlight of the night was sitting down to find Andrew Mehrts and Reuben Thorne sitting next to me! What a great couple of guys, happy to chat and passionate Canterbury blokes too

    The best kind of final to watch, when your team is winning from the start and never really in danger of winning.

    Mouaga was excellent, Dom bird my player of the day. Why is he not considered for higher honours?

    Did you ask Merts if he had to rush to the airport after the game and that's why he brought his suitcase along? 😉



  • @SammyC said in Canterbury v Tasman, Premiership Final:

    The best kind of final to watch, when your team is .... never really in danger of winning.

    So you were supporting Tasman after all! 🙂

    Didn't really mind losing - that was pretty much expected, but the plethora of soft mistakes was very disappointing. Feel a bit sorry for Marty Banks going out on that note - didn't do himself justice at all. Lowe, Ainley, Guyton - guys we really needed to stand up - also among those making the most glaring errors.

    On the plus side, Mo'unga particularly looked good - comfortably the best first five in New Zealand at the moment (unless Dan Carter has slipped home on a secret holiday...and obviously discounting all the ones who are in Chicago).

    The Makos Crusaders' players all went pretty well, I think: Hunt, Havili when he came on, Samu, Perry - Frizzell was good as well and reinforced my thought that Razor should sign him to the WTG. Nankivell had one great break close to the line and seemed solid enough most of the time.

    Hopefully Razor has also got Enari locked in for a WTG slot. He looks very promising.

    Overall, it's a bit concerning that so few of that Canterbury team are part of the Crusaders set-up - and some who are are among the duds (Volavola, probably Funnell).



  • @Chris-B. enari was good eh? hadn't seen much of him before that i can recall, but his service was generally quick and accurate.


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