Chiefs v Blues



  • Should be a cracker. Blues have been named

    The team is: Pauliasi Manu, Matt Moulds, Sione Mafileo, Jimmy Tupou (C), Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Steven Luatua, Blake Gibson, Akira Ioane; Augustine Pulu, Ihaia West, Melani Nanai, Piers Francis, Rieko Ioane, Matt Duffie, Michael Collins.

    Reserves: Hame Faiva, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Charlie Faumuina, Patrick Tuipulotu, Jerome Kaino, Billy Guyton, George Moala, Rene Ranger.

    http://theblues.co.nz/blacks-return-bench-chiefs/



  • Hell of a bench!



  • More ABs on the pine than starting ...



  • That bench , wow !!!



  • That bench is taking the piss.



  • You'll be hard pressed to find a better bench all season, ABs games excluded of course



  • @Gunner said in Chiefs v Blues:

    You'll be hard pressed to find a better bench all season, ABs games excluded of course

    Nah, Ofa drags the average quality down considerably



  • @Stockcar86 yea nah, maybe 12 months ago, he came a long way last year



  • @mariner4life plus 'usually' when he comes on, scrums aren't as competitive so makes up for it round the park.



  • @taniwharugby My memory isn't great, but i thought he scrummaged adequately in his AB tour? Seemed there was a definite improvement.

    It's going to take a lot for people to forget that 'tahs game last year though



  • Ofa's scrum work when in an AB jersey has been good.

    One interesting issue though - he has improved particularly when he has played tighthead and in this game he looks to be covering loosehead from the bench so if he gets on it will be interesting to see how he goes.



  • The Gallagher Chiefs team to play the Blues at 7.35pm on Friday is:

    1. Kane Hames (10)
    2. Hika Elliot (105)
    3. Nepo Laulala (1)
    4. Dominic Bird (12)
    5. Brodie Retallick (72)
    6. Liam Messam (147)
    7. Lachlan Boshier (9)
    8. Michael Leitch (23)
    9. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (68)
    10. Aaron Cruden (captain) (74)
    11. James Lowe (38)
    12. Johnny Faauli (1)
    13. Anton Lienert-Brown (25)
    14. Tim Nanai-Williams (78)
    15. Damian McKenzie (34)

    RESERVES:

    1. Samisoni Taukei’aho (1)
    2. Siegfried Fisi’ihoi (12)
    3. Atu Moli (12)
    4. Taleni Seu (19)
    5. Tom Sanders (15)
    6. Jonathan Taumateine (1)
    7. Toni Pulu (14)
    8. Shaun Stevenson (8)


  • So replace Boshier with Cane and you've got an all international forward pack, 7 ABs. Or am i being a retard and Elliott hasn't made it that far?



  • @Bones Hika has played for the ABs.

    Some strong packs indeed across both teams.



  • On paper looking at the starting xv you'd have chiefs by a country mile. Is this for the Lauaki bucket?



  • Any idea why Boshier instead of Karpik? Is Karpik injured already?



  • @Crucial said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Any idea why Boshier instead of Karpik? Is Karpik injured already?

    I'll answer my own question after some googling.

    Just seems to be a combination of giving Boshier a crack and Karpik having shouldered most of the workload in the pre-season and first game.

    Bench seems a little odd though. I assume Seu is covering lock/6. Sanders is mainly an 8 isn't he? They look to me to be targeting a defensive role for the loosies more than a turnover role. Get your turnovers via defensive pressure and errors.

    This is going to be one hell of a game I think. As much as I'd like the Chiefs to win I'd also like the Blues to continue their resurgence. A Blues team playing well adds a lot to the competition IMO.



  • @Bones said in Chiefs v Blues:

    So replace Boshier with Cane and you've got an all international forward pack, 7 ABs. Or am i being a retard and Elliott hasn't made it that far?

    Leitch is a Japanese player, not an All Black.



  • @cgrant he said "all international" forward pack with 7 ABs.. so I'm guessing the 8th forward is Leitch..



  • @Crucial Boshier is good at getting turnovers as he has more size to him than Karpik.

    Seu will definitely be the backup lock/6, and I think that will be his role for most of the year unless Retallick or Bird are rested. Sanders can also play at 6 and Leitch provides the cover at 7.



  • I didn't get to watch the Chiefs v Highlanders match in detail, but it seemed to me that Karpik was't that effective in slowing Highlander ball down. If my (admittedly basic) impression is correct, that would be enough to give me pause when selecting a side for the Blues.



  • http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/89871477/super-rugby-tipped-to-win--leading-picks-for-round-two

    That surprises me! I thought it would be 50/50 split on the Chiefs Blues game.



  • Chiefs $1.44
    Blues $2.75



  • They're all picking the home teams in the NZ derbies, even those from the other teams areas (e.g. Knowler).

    I'm surprised to see the TAB odds in the newspaper. The Chiefs are at $1.44 and the Blues are paying $2.75. I thought it would be closer.



  • @Hooroo Blues haven't beaten Chiefs in 6 years/10 games.

    Any word on the crowd? Should be a good one you'd think given last year's fixture in Hamilton was a good crowd, weather looks good and this year's contest looks even better. Plenty of All Blacks (and potential future All Blacks) on show.



  • @KiwiMurph I haven't heard yet but historically the Blues game always attracts a large crowd. It's the first Chiefs home game since the match vs Wales last year too.



  • @Bovidae I guess also to add to things it's Cruden's 100th game. Will only add to the occasion.



  • My gut feeling is Blues by 3



  • @Bovidae said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @KiwiMurph I haven't heard yet but historically the Blues game always attracts a large crowd. It's the first Chiefs home game since the match vs Wales last year too.

    This is our year!

    Blues by 13+ ... hey, I was right last week OK?



  • Chiefs team is stacked. Easy W for them.
    Will be happy if we can come away with a bonus point.



  • So are you Blues supporters playing the underdog card or not?



  • @Bovidae Yes to underdog status in the first half, no in the second half.



  • @Rembrandt said in Chiefs v Blues:

    My gut feeling is Blues by 3

    I'd like to go with my gut on this one, but the Blues look to be two or three starting players away from strength across the field. Start Parsons, Faumaina, and Tuipulotu, move Nanai to fullback and Moala to the wing, and you're looking really strong.

    As it stands, the Blues have an advantage in the scrum, and loose forwards, and a bit more attacking punch in the backs. The Chiefs have a big advantage at lock, and the packs are about even around the field. They have an advantage at 10, but Cruden was indifferent last week. Big bench for us though, which will hopefully see us through.

    Blues by 1 to 8.



  • I'm going with my gut too. I think it's going to be a big game.



  • @cgrant said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @Bones said in Chiefs v Blues:

    So replace Boshier with Cane and you've got an all international forward pack, 7 ABs. Or am i being a retard and Elliott hasn't made it that far?

    Leitch is a Japanese player, not an All Black.

    I like this even better when you look at the detail, first that I think I've seen him in an AB Jersey, second that I think there's only 7 forwards despite the guy in question being named at 8.



  • So is the consensus pretty much that Collins is just keeping the jersey warm till the squad is fit?

    I read Umaga saying he likes Collins' organisation at the back... so maybe that's important in a backline full of game breakers. Hard to imagine him keeping the start once Ranger and Moala are ready, let alone Sonny Bill, right?



  • Ranger hasn't had a lot of rugby since he returned to NZ, I think he has a long way to go to press for a starting spot, but if he does get firing, along with Moala and SBW it will be a huge headache for Tana!



  • Having good depth on most occasions is a massive bonus in this comp , particularly when all blacks are involved and pressure is probably coming from above to nurse them through any niggles .



  • @Milk said in Chiefs v Blues:

    So is the consensus pretty much that Collins is just keeping the jersey warm till the squad is fit?

    I read Umaga saying he likes Collins' organisation at the back... so maybe that's important in a backline full of game breakers. Hard to imagine him keeping the start once Ranger and Moala are ready, let alone Sonny Bill, right?

    The kicking game seems to be a focus at the moment. The Blues were equal first in the number of kicks in play in round one.

    The Highlanders did well a couple of years ago by putting up a lot of high balls. I wonder if that's what Umaga is trying to emulate?
    Collins and Duffie both kick well and the entire back three puts pressure on high kicks

    Collins came into first receiver occasionally. With him and Francis on the field West has less responsibility which is a good thing.

    Hopefully all the kicking from hand options fixes our exits. They have been abysmal for years and they were still shit last week.



  • @Duluth Two pints of beer of this leg and then return leg to be had at that bar you mentioned in Auckland?

    Away team gets the draw?


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