The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games



  • I couldn't be bothered getting up for the Bulls v Sunwolves game, but apparently the Bulls played with 14 men from the 42nd minute when Renaldo Bothma was red-carded for a high tackle (I'll post the video in the Super Rugby news thread). Despite Bulls player Jason Jenkins butchering a certain try, the Bulls still won 34 to 21. That's the Bulls first win of the season and the Sunwolves' misery continues.



  • Tahs v Ponies tonight in Sydney. Been raining all fucking week here. It's right shunty. So expect nothing in terms of skill or intensity.

    Of course, you wouldn't anyway, but the qty will just take it down a notch. Was offered members tickets. Couldn't be bothered sitting there with all the old grumpy fluffybunnies who grown at you if you cheer or do anything outside clapping politely



  • Didn't think it was possible for the Bulls to be as bad as they are this year. And they look poorly coached and lacking any sort of intensity and motivation.

    Luckily the Sunwolves are worse.



  • I wonder how many yellow cards Scott Fardy has collected during his SR career? It seems like he's carded very often?



  • Fucking hell. How can the Tahs be losing to the Brumbies? Phipps is fucking terrible. A scrumhalf that can't fucking pass.



  • @antipodean said in The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games:

    Fucking hell. How can the Tahs be losing to the Brumbies? Phipps is fucking terrible. A scrumhalf that can't fucking pass.

    He's incredibly slow, too.



  • Some very good tries from Speight tonight.



  • Do these clowns train during the week?



  • Yes. That's the sad bit.



  • Just read that Quade was sent off for a high tackle this morning. Looking at the video I'm not sure that is a red card. Perhaps Fraser was just surprised that Quade made a tackle?



  • have the Jaguares had a game where they havent had a card?



  • Watched brumbies vs tags ... brumbies were worthy Of the points I thought.

    What was worrying though ... the crowd. Expected 30k plus for this match but doubt it was even half that. Worrying times for oz rugby fans.



  • I didn't watch the game, but just noticed the result of Sharks v Kings: only 19-17 to the Sharks.

    Last year, the Sharks won this game 53-0 in round 13.
    Hell, last year the Sharks even beat the Canes in Durban , were only just beaten by the Chiefs in Hamilton by two points and defeated the Landers in Dunedin by one point.

    Are they sliding downhill really fast?



  • @Stargazer KIngs playing for thier lives 😉



  • The Lions didn't get tested going backwards or out wide really but if he shows himself to be a brave defender then I'd say the Lions uncovered a true gem in 19-year-old winger Madosh Tambwe. Did everything he was asked to do very well and those little extra things that seperate the journeyman from the guys who go all the way.

    Hasn't been a finisher like him in Jo'burg since Bryan Habana made the similar jump from U-19's.

    And most importantly we need more physical wingers such as him out there so we can have more confidence to move the ball out there.

    Last word on Lions game: Rohan Janse van Rensburg an absolute star and whoever in the Bulls organisation let him go as "your services won't be required in the future" should be shot. He is as they'd say in the NFL, a franchise player. Miles better then any of Kriel (best not pick him for the Boks this year. Has done nothing to warrant even being one), Odendaal & Swanepoel at the Bulls franchise that did not want him. (I exclude Serfontein because I still think he's every bit as good in a rubbish organisation)

    Tambwe's U-19 record last year:

    • 400 minutes player over 9 games, mostly off the bench.
    • scored 16 tries including 4 when he came in with 30 minutes to go in final round robin and 3 in the final against Western Province when he came on with 20 minutes to play.


  • @Bovidae said in The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games:

    Just read that Quade was sent off for a high tackle this morning. Looking at the video I'm not sure that is a red card. Perhaps Fraser was just surprised that Quade made a tackle?

    I just saw that now - WTF!!! A red card for that. The predicted stupidity of this directive is coming true.



  • @Nepia said in The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games:

    @Bovidae said in The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games:

    Just read that Quade was sent off for a high tackle this morning. Looking at the video I'm not sure that is a red card. Perhaps Fraser was just surprised that Quade made a tackle?

    I just saw that now - WTF!!! A red card for that. The predicted stupidity of this directive is coming true.

    Might have been Harsh on Quade but if the TMO opened his eyes he'd have seen Jantjies lifted past the horizontal right behind that which would've warranted a red.



  • I reckon it was fair enough. It was a swinging arm right round the neck.

    Btw it's not the first time penishead has been carded for that swinging arm.

    Fuck him and fuck the Reds for wasting their time and money on him.



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games:

    I reckon it was fair enough. It was a swinging arm right round the neck.

    Btw it's not the first time penishead has been carded for that swinging arm.

    Fuck him and fuck the Reds for wasting their time and money on him.

    Hmmm, me thinks you may be a wee bit biased against Quade .... (Me I'm happy for the Reds to waste their money across the board).

    Just watching the replay again, it's a high tackle, not a swinging arm.



  • It was a possible yellow card offence even by the old interpretations.

    So with that in mind, under the new interpretations, it's not too surprising that he copped a red.



  • @Nepia said in The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games:

    I reckon it was fair enough. It was a swinging arm right round the neck.

    Btw it's not the first time penishead has been carded for that swinging arm.

    Fuck him and fuck the Reds for wasting their time and money on him.

    Hmmm, me thinks you may be a wee bit biased against Quade .... (Me I'm happy for the Reds to waste their money across the board).

    Just watching the replay again, it's a high tackle, not a swinging arm.

    It that wasn't a swinging arm then it was pretty fucking close to it.

    Yes I hate Quade but I'm happy enough to see red cards for those.



  • Trouble is, I've seen other similar high tackles this weekend that weren't even penalised.



  • Okay, so not a stiff arm like Luatua. The tackled player had the ball, unlike TNW in Luatua's tackle.
    But unlike TJP last night, Cooper didn't go for the ball but for the player.

    I think TJP's yellow was correct. Luatua's red was correct. Now, somewhere in-between fits Cooper's high tackle.

    Haven't seen the citing yet.



  • definite YC, RC seems harsh and this is where I feel something needs to be done due to the risk of ruining a game with 15 v 14 for 35 mins...but thats me.



  • @MajorRage said in The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games:

    Watched brumbies vs tags ... brumbies were worthy Of the points I thought.

    What was worrying though ... the crowd. Expected 30k plus for this match but doubt it was even half that. Worrying times for oz rugby fans.

    You can only blame the weather so much, too. It has been pissing down on and off the last week or more, but that doesn't explain all of it. I remember when we had 44,000 to a Brumbies game at the SFS in the early noughties, but could only manage 32k in the 2014 major semi.

    The fact is, rugby is on a downward spiral in Australia, and Sydney in particular. I'm hearing Junior signups are down 30% across Sydney competitions, for example.

    The game isn't in front of enough eyeballs, and quite frankly the quality of our domestic teams isn't worthy of enough eyeballs. Cutting teams won't actually help any of them get better, because the system is broken.

    Park footy (Suburban Rugby) is suffering for a lack of playing numbers, while support from higher powers is near nonexistent, and volunteers are experiencing burnout at a rapid rate. The big change in the demographics playing rugby have contributed to this; a lot of guys work Saturdays now, or night shifts and can't make training.

    A lot of the guys simply don't want to help with the volunteering aspect of it, and/or think they're superstars who don't have to pay fees and that everything is put on for them. To put a fine point on it, the Kiwi and Islander guys at our club are the hardest to get money out of. They'll rock up to training in a brand new V8 ute but cry poor at a rego deposit of $100 and say "we don't pay rigo at home, bro!"

    They guys who DO pay are usually there for a bit of fun, and getting pounded physically and on the score board by guys nearly twice your size is NOT fun, by definition.



  • @NTA

    I remember this kind of thing well. Pricks bitch about subs, then blow that amount on piss after a game. If they don't pay they shouldn't be allowed to play.



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel not fucking wrong. Or they'll stick $50 into the pokies right in front of you.

    One guy is out partying every weekend - and I know because I'm friends with him in FB - then suddenly he's moving house or can't afford anything. Nek minnit: checks into a new gym he's not been to before.

    They're like fucking children.



  • @NTA said in The "other" round 4 Super Rugby games:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel not fucking wrong. Or they'll stick $50 into the pokies right in front of you.

    One guy is out partying every weekend - and I know because I'm friends with him in FB - then suddenly he's moving house or can't afford anything. Nek minnit: checks into a new gym he's not been to before.

    They're like fucking children.

    You ain't wrong.

    One team I played for (which were so shit I'm embarrassed to have been associated with them) were the senior team of a club with a very strong juniors club. I coach there now actually.

    A heap of these pricks just wouldn't pay their subs. The Juniors president came up one evening and very politely and reasonably asked that people pay their subs. The response was this guy getting slagged off and the Juniors being vilified as some kind of evil landlord. Christ it was embarrassing, particularly when most of these piston wristed gibbons were hitting the piss at least 3 times a week.

    But yeah, it was always the guys who paid their subs and helped out who got fucked over. Always.



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel coaches get big eyes when finals approach. This year, as President, I've given my coaches strict instructions that nobody takes the field unless they're financial. All three coaches are onboard with that. If we forfeit games, so be it.


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