TCs Debbie & Cook
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@taniwharugby said in TC Debbie:
@booboo the rains we had 2 weeks back were described in affected areas as a 1 in 100 year event, then this week....
yeah, you have to be a bit careful.
Rainfall is particularly nasty, as the hydrologists and stormwater people design for both intense rain and longer rain. So 1 in 100 years could be true for a 30 minute rainfall, but not do much damage. In other places, taht could overwhelm drains and cause flash flooding.
But then you can have 1 in 100 year rain over 6 hours, and with a lower intensity may do less damage.
My stance is don't expect media to report anything with any nuance or accuracy. They are actively anti science and not interested in complicated explanations. As Ben Goldacre keeps saying:
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that
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@nzzp until I had water tanks to collect my household water, I never took much interest, but it is quite scary to think how good the drainage systems of towns are for the most part to deal with the volume of water from rain.
Off my roof, 1mm of rain equates to about 270L, which means the 100m stretch of road, not including footpaths is gonna collect about 700L of water, add in the buildings either side, the footpaths etc, that say, acre area is now having to deal with about 4000L of water, from 1mm of rain...then you have storms that throw down 30mm in 30mins....
Worse still, most of the surfaces are not going to absorb a portion of the water like a paddock type area, so then you start looking at all the other areas around and how much water must need to be re-directed, somewhere...
I heard on the TV this morning, Edgecumbe suffered a major quake in the late 80s? Which is why they had issues with needing to build stop banks?
I guess man has been trying to divert water for thousands of year, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
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@MajorRage said in TC Debbie:
Edgecumbe
That's a bit shit for them. As I used to say about Windsor in the 1990s; live on a flood plain, buy a boat...
Another reason if I had to live in the Netherlands, I'd live in Limburg.
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@MajorRage said in TC Debbie:
Thoughts and prayers with those in Edgecumbe
#EdgecumbeLivesMatter
#PrayForEdgecumbeYou can rest easy tonight knowing you've done your bit for the people of Edgecumbe.
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@No-Quarter I've already changed my Facebook profile pick to a WINZ logo in support
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@mariner4life liar....just jumping on the bandwagon, low bro, low!
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So, now TC Cook is having a crack at NZ, and coming with a huge rep of looking at throwing some of the worst shit at NZ since the Wahine...
Majority of country already water logged, which I expect will make it worse by putting more water through already overloaded infrastructure.
Cyclone Cook is now within 500km of Cape Reinga at 8pm. Winds are expected to pick up overnight. Cook is expected to pass Northland to the east between 10am and 2pm Thursday.
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@taniwharugby said in TC Debbie:
So, now TC Cook is having a crack at NZ, and coming with a huge rep of looking at throwing some of the worst shit at NZ since the Wahine...
Majority of country already water logged, which I expect will make it worse by putting more water through already overloaded infrastructure.
Not to mention how it may affect the rugby.
Yeah, there will be some areas that don't drain the best and will still have their cups full from Debbie. Get to high ground or get your ark ready seems the best advice.
Man, Coromandel will be a mess after all this. Wouldn't want to be that regional council. Seems like every time they get stuff rebuilt from the last storm another comes along.
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They have cancelled my kids school for tomorrow... which is a bit disconcerting.
I have tied down the tramp... but I might put another rope or 2 on.... -
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in TC Debbie:
They have cancelled my kids school for tomorrow... which is a bit disconcerting.
I have tied down the tramp... but I might put another rope or 2 on....Don't you think you should leave her a means of escape should the water level rise?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback stay safe!
We had 55mm last night from the other system in the Ta$man, with the edges of Cook due to hit mid to late morning.
I bought some tie down things for the tramp (after the tramp ended up in neighbors paddock 3 years ago) but man they suck to put in, as well as securing the chicken houses, but it's my garden shed I put up when we built that is a concern with the gale winds possibly hitting directly into it when it is usually pretty sheltered from most wind directions.
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Could you flip the tramp or something so it doesn't have as much surface area to get picked up? Or do you have one with the kid cage around it?
Wellington is pretty trippy today with heaps of fog- it's still but you know what they say about the calm before the storm. My brother, his partner and 3 month old fly in from Melbs at 11.30 tonight. The storm is meant to hit us after 2am or so but Mum's anxiety levels are high!!
Stay safe all!
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I'm supposed to fly from Wellington to Hamilton at 2pm today. I'll be surprised if that flight still goes ahead . . .
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Warnings not to come into Akl's CBD and that Harbour bridge may close.
Really glad chose to take a long weekend A fortnight ago rather than go away at Easter - even if I did have water halfway up the car as I drove through the State Highway lake on the way back. Good to know the Audi's doors are watertight.
Can't believe the reaction of some customers when you say you are cancelling their afternoon delivery today....
Sent most people home for an early start to the Easter weekend.
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@Smudge said in TCs Debbie & Cook:
I'm supposed to fly from Wellington to Hamilton at 2pm today. I'll be surprised if that flight still goes ahead . . .
Maybe.
I was expected to fly when all of the buses, trains and taxis were shut down for typhoons in Hong Kong. So it wasn't safe to get to the airport by any means of transport, but it was O.K to get in an aeroplane...Things have improved slightly because the airlines realise that if people can't get to the airport they have no passengers, so it is a safety consideration, not a commercial one. Tui billboard.