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@Siam said in Aussie Politics:
@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
@Siam said in Aussie Politics:
Berkeley riots of Milo
Which is the most interesting / funny one from the pov that Milo is a fucking clown and stood for nothing but his own promotion.
I agree mate, but there's a principle at play. I like your former deputy pm, John Anderson. He talks about a shift from principles in politics to middle management ( expedient measures to placate) these days and I think he talks sense
Anderson is sorely missed not just by his party but politics more broadly. He was a sensible measured type with an old school approach where he knew which fights to take on but with a bit of class and respect.
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Rent-a-crowd retards are at it again. Something's happening in America, jump on the bandwagon:
'Over a thousand people gathered at Garmea Place in the city this morning to join the Black Lives Matter protest in Canberra.
The protest saw a large group of people walk over the Commonwealth Ave bridge causing delays for some commuters. Some motorists showed their support by sounding their horn.
The march saw people chanting about a number of issues as they moved up to the lawns of Parliament House.'
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
Rent-a-crowd retards are at it again. Something's happening in America, jump on the bandwagon:
'Over a thousand people gathered at Garmea Place in the city this morning to join the Black Lives Matter protest in Canberra.
The protest saw a large group of people walk over the Commonwealth Ave bridge causing delays for some commuters. Some motorists showed their support by sounding their horn.
The march saw people chanting about a number of issues as they moved up to the lawns of Parliament House.'
I'm sure they did.
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@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
What is Branch Stacking?
And why is it bad?
You have people that don't actually exist voting for your candidate.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
What is Branch Stacking?
And why is it bad?
You have people that don't actually exist voting for your candidate.
Basically what you do when you don't want to risk anyone but your preferred brand of nepotism
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@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
What is Branch Stacking?
And why is it bad?
So most party pre-selections are done by a vote of the local branches. Those branches consist of 'rank and file' party members - generally old ducks and young fools who want to be involved in the party in some way.
Branch stacking is when one candidate 'stacks' the branch by introducing dozens of new members that have no real party affiliation, and their sole purpose is to vote for that candidate in the coming pre-selection.
So instead of a pre-selection considering the merits of the candidates, it comes down to who can bring the most people in the door to vote for them. Key targets for stackers - family members, student groups, churches, ethnic groups.
What it means broadly is the best local candidate is often overlooked in favour of local stackers. This impacts the supply chain of future leaders, as you want the backbench to be a breeding ground of talented people rather than a cesspool of local hacks.
How do you fix it? Tighter rules around membership, perhaps. More central oversight in candidates maybe. But there is no easy answer as both of those things can have unintended consequences.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Politics:
What it means broadly is the best local candidate is often overlooked in favour of local stackers. This impacts the supply chain of future leaders, as you want the backbench to be a breeding ground of talented people rather than a cesspool of local hacks.
How do you fix it? Tighter rules around membership, perhaps. More central oversight in candidates maybe. But there is no easy answer as both of those things can have unintended consequences.
The line pretty clearly is if the member is aware they hold membership and pay the fee themselves - then it's fair game.
It's not exactly clear why rigorous membership checks haven't been put in place if there is a genuine effort to stamp this out - particularly around preselection - when the two major parties have ~50,000 members each in 150 federal divisions. It's pretty obvious cash membership payment should be out with unique bank account or credit card required.
If anything the Liberal system with the higher membership fees and state executive having a hand in things is weighted too much to the 'best candidate' - I would argue some returns in the blue-ribbon seats where Howard ministers retired have been pretty safe and underwhelming, particularly out of NSW.
The Labor system obviously is clearly worse with each faction 'owning' various seats and the gender targets - but they probably still get as much of their top talent in the door despite the hackery.
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@rotated @barbarian moving away from allowing cash payments for membership might help...
Recruitment activities of both major political parties and minor parties have raised eyebrows for eons. Branch stacking isnât generally aired in mainstream media other than when someone âfrom withinâ has their nose out of joint and wants to stitch another candidate/party member up. Forget Labor vs Liberal, the internal stuff is the most brutal. Iâve seen some nasty ones in my time.
On the Victorian Labor stacking (remember that?), the biggest issue is the covert nature of the footage that showed conversations etc and the fact a Federal MPs office was being used as a veritable TV studio to try and nail Somyurek. The recruitment activities and strategies are by the by really. Some of the reaction and subsequent sharing of text exchanges between Somyurek and Byrne added a bit of drama also.
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@Frank said in Aussie Politics:
Can anyone who know something about OZ politics comment on this?
Is this a real strategy change in the Oz govt towards China or just the commentator's opinion.?Why? Are you a communist spy?
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
The Bolt Report.
Basically take anything that guy says, drop it in shit remover, and see if anything survives.
why? why do you bother even switching it on? You have a bad heart, why deliberately make yourself angry?
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
The Bolt Report.
Basically take anything that guy says, drop it in shit remover, and see if anything survives.
why? why do you bother even switching it on? You have a bad heart, why deliberately make yourself angry?
I don't - the headline and the Sky banner is enough to dismiss it as anything remotely related to "journalism".
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
The Bolt Report.
Basically take anything that guy says, drop it in shit remover, and see if anything survives.
why? why do you bother even switching it on? You have a bad heart, why deliberately make yourself angry?
I used to watch the ABC in the morning when fasting. Nothing better to provide the anger necessary to get through the day without food.
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
The Bolt Report.
Basically take anything that guy says, drop it in shit remover, and see if anything survives.
why? why do you bother even switching it on? You have a bad heart, why deliberately make yourself angry?
I don't - the headline and the Sky banner is enough to dismiss it as anything remotely related to "journalism".
he's not a journalist. he's a professional agitator. There's a lot of it about
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