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@rembrandt said in French Politics:
Macron is not a president representing the French people, he's only serving his globalist EU overlords.
What?
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@antipodean He's a pro-EU globalist with no interest in France as a nation or the French as a people. The French have started to realise this polls have him at 18% support now. At this rate they're just gifting Rassemblement National support.
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@antipodean said in French Politics:
@rembrandt said in French Politics:
Macron is not a president representing the French people, he's only serving his globalist EU overlords.
What?
He’s a fluffybunny .
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@rembrandt said in French Politics:
@antipodean He's a pro-EU globalist with no interest in France as a nation or the French as a people. The French have started to realise this polls have him at 18% support now. At this rate they're just gifting Rassemblement National support.
That's not terribly far from his first round vote anyway (24%). Macron is a free marketer, so of course he's a globalist. I don't know why this is presented as a bad thing. And the same holds for the EU.
The argument that he's pandering to urbanites is a different matter because the Rural French believe they're being impacted to implement policies for the wishes of those in metropolitan areas. In much the same way people here are tired of policy discussion being dominated by inner-city NIMBYs.
@frank said in French Politics:
@rembrandt Perhaps this is why the pro-nationalist Italian leaders are currently polling around 60% (though early days)
Seriously I'd ignore Italy in any discussion of politics. They're a laughing stock - changing parties more often than they change their underpants.
More broadly if people want to complain about globalism, then I'm more than prepared for them to become closed shops and see what it does to their standard of living. Time for millions of idiots to learn a valuable economic lesson.
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@antipodean It's not the free marketeer aspect of Globalism that people are so concerned about. Force mass migration from 3rd world countries plus policy and laws determined by unelected officials detrimental to the average citizen for spurious reasons are the bigger issue.
I wouldn't count Italy out. What has happened there is indicative of a growing movement throughout Europe, it is still early days but they're not going to be last country to go that way.
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Taxing the working class of France will not stop emissions in China.
https://streamable.com/sfpd9?fbclid=IwAR2BaA79pUasknnh-N6X8y4yN5qcs384pBSGA2YLJpbxBbgzC7PipU6FWHk
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@rembrandt They ca be brutal all right. You should take a look at the "Paris Massacre" of 1961 as an example. Acknowledged 40 deaths but estimates got up to 3-400 including drownings where protestors had been thrown into the Seine.
Fuck demonstrating in Paris.
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...imagine if the police started their own protests..boy that would put Macron in an awkward position.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20181218/french-police-call-to-block-police-stations
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@jegga said in French Politics:
Macron has a unique ability to unite people.
Against him , the left and the right seem to loathe him .
An unfortunate ability for him, given the French tendency to fight each other better than they fight invaders.
He's doing an... impressive... job.
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Although reporting on it is becoming scarce the protests are continuing. I guess Macron's already terrible approval rating slipping further its time for drastic action, maybe he could negotiate some terms, step down?, maybe organise a snap election?
Ha lol. Nah lets take the 'police state'option.
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@Rembrandt said in French Politics:
Although reporting on it is becoming scarce the protests are continuing. I guess Macron's already terrible approval rating slipping further its time for drastic action, maybe he could negotiate some terms, step down?, maybe organise a snap election?
Ha lol. Nah lets take the 'police state'option.
I do agree with him on one point - the wearing of masks at demonstrations. Although I'm not sure this should be law, I can see where he is coming from on this - it's like arguing under a pseudonym on the internet. Your points don't deserve to be taken seriously, if you aren't prepared to present them as yourself.
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@MajorRage I agree too on that..well at least in Australia. Just think France is a whole different situation now. I'd be picking the next Yougov poll would have his approval nearing 15%, figures like that you gotta think that maybe the problem isn't entirely the thousands of protesters
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