2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations)



  • The first announcement relating to this year's Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship has just been made, so time to start this year's thread.



  • 2017 RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP - MATCH OFFICIAL APPOINTMENTS

    Date K/O NZT Fixture Venue Referee Assistant Referee 1 Assistant Referee 2 TMO
    Sat 19 Aug 10:00pm Australia v New Zealand Sydney Jerome Garces (FFR) Wayne Barnes (RFU) Andrew Brace (IRFU) Rowan Kitt (RFU)
    Sun 20 Aug 3:05am South Africa v Argentina Port Elizabeth Romain Poite (FFR) Pascal Gauzere (FFR) Nic Berry (ARU) Glenn Newman (NZR)
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    Sat 26 Aug 7:35pm New Zealand v Australia Dunedin Wayne Barnes (RFU) Jerome Garces (FFR) Andrew Brace (IRFU) Rowan Kitt (RFU)
    Sun 27 Aug 7:30am Argentina v South Africa Salta Pascal Gauzere (FFR) Romain Poite (FFR) Nic Berry (ARU) Glenn Newman (NZR)
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    Sat 09 Sep 7:35pm New Zealand v Argentina New Plymouth Angus Gardner (ARU) Nigel Owens (WRU) Matthew Carley (RFU) George Ayoub (ARU)
    Sat 09 Sep 10:00pm Australia v South Africa Perth Glen Jackson (NZR) John Lacey (IRFU) Paul Williams (NZR) Ben Skeen (NZR)
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    Sat 16 Sep 7:35pm New Zealand v South Africa Albany Nigel Owens (WRU) Angus Gardner (ARU) Matthew Carley (RFU) George Ayoub (ARU)
    Sat 16 Sep 10:00pm Australia v Argentina Canberra John Lacey (IRFU) Glen Jackson (NZR) Paul Williams (NZR) Ben Skeen (NZR)
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    Sun 01 Oct 4:05am South Africa v Australia Bloemfontein Ben O'Keeffe (NZR) Jerome Garces (FFR) Shuhei Kubo (JRFU) Rowan Kitt (RFU)
    Sun 01 Oct 11:30am Argentina v New Zealand Buenos Aires Jaco Peyper (SARU) Mathieu Raynal (FFR) Marius van der Westhuizen (SARU) Marius Jonker (SARU)
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    Sun 08 Oct 4:05am South Africa v New Zealand Cape Town Jerome Garces (FFR) Romain Poite (FFR) Shuhei Kubo (JRFU) Rowan Kitt (RFU)
    Sun 08 Oct 11:30am Argentina v Australia Mendoza Mathieu Raynal (FFR) Jaco Peyper (SARU) Marius van der Westhuizen (SARU) Marius Jonker (SARU)

    BLEDISLOE CUP III

    Date K/O Fixture Venue Referee Assistant Referee 1 Assistant Referee 2 TMO
    Sat 21 Oct 11:00pm Australia v New Zealand Brisbane Wayne Barnes (RFU) Marius van der Westhuizen (SARU) Egon Seconds (SARU) Marius Jonker (SARU)


  • @Stargazer thanks for that.

    DId we do something to anger the Rugby Gods? Garces refereeing us twice more away from home, to Aus and SA? And AR in Dunedin.

    Waiting for more baffling calls ...



  • @nzzp Yes, again, so many French refs! Is this how WR plans to impose French law interpretation on SH rugby?



  • @nzzp said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    @Stargazer thanks for that.

    DId we do something to anger the Rugby Gods? Garces refereeing us twice more away from home, to Aus and SA? And AR in Dunedin.

    Waiting for more baffling calls ...

    Don't worry we get Barnes for Australia away too.



  • @rotated said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    @nzzp said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    @Stargazer thanks for that.

    DId we do something to anger the Rugby Gods? Garces refereeing us twice more away from home, to Aus and SA? And AR in Dunedin.

    Waiting for more baffling calls ...

    Don't worry we get Barnes for Australia away too.

    Good catch!

    Also: Ayoub as TMO two weeks in a row.

    To paraphrase Churchill: Never was the announcement of referees, met with so much angst, by so few



  • Good to see Garces and Poite rewarded for their outstanding efforts in June/July. These are the guys that should be getting the top gigs, they are on top of their game.



  • @rotated said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    @nzzp said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    @Stargazer thanks for that.

    DId we do something to anger the Rugby Gods? Garces refereeing us twice more away from home, to Aus and SA? And AR in Dunedin.

    Waiting for more baffling calls ...

    Don't worry we get Barnes for Australia away too.

    And in Dunners.

    Mind you after the French fuck ups I'm kind of looking forward to Barnesy.



  • @Bones WTF!!!! WR are just straight out trolling us now. There's no need to have so much NH ref involvement.

    And I just got tickets for the Sydney match ... might see if I can sell them now. 😉

    I know it's right to hate Ayoub but I tend to think he gets more right than wrong as a TMO (awful ref though).



  • i think it's a good thing. These refs need experience reffing the best, so they get used to the pressure, just like players do.
    And the ABs need to get used to these refs, and build a rapport with them so they can talk them out of penalties and get a scrum.



  • @mimic haha, yeah can you imagine if Read started talking to him in French (assuming Warburton doesn't) and getting him to over turn a decision.



  • I'm interested to see how the AB's perform and what selections they go for in the backline. I cannot see the other teams challenging the AB's and it would be a shock to lose the Bledisloe given the dire Wallabies/Super Rugby teams form this year.

    Hopefully the Wallabies can prove me wrong and somehow help the fortunes of Rugby in this country. At my work in NSW I can only talk rugby with 1 other person. We have 80 staff in my building. Rugby League and AFL dominate with Soccer not far behind.

    I am also interested to see if SA can improve. Maybe they just need to make the Lions the national team.



  • What's weird is the game vs the Boks in Auckland is at Albany and not Eden Park.

    I understand that there's Eden Park fatigue with them having hosted so many big games this season (though the Samoa test would not have been factored in at the time these tests were allocated) but surely Eden Park would have sold more tickets for this game than the capacity of QBE Albany?

    I know Albany is close for a lot of the Saffa supporters but it seems strange.



  • @KiwiMurph That's such a weird call. Why would they not want to get in another 20k supporters and improve the bottom line? I was also surprised they didn't put up the temp stands for the Lions tests like they had for the RWC and increase the capacity to 60k. A further 25k seats sold at the ridiculous prices they were charging would have been the sensible thing to do I would have thought.



  • @akan004 said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    @KiwiMurph That's such a weird call. Why would they not want to get in another 20k supporters and improve the bottom line? I was also surprised they didn't put up the temp stands for the Lions tests like they had for the RWC and increase the capacity to 60k. A further 25k seats sold at the ridiculous prices they were charging would have been the sensible thing to do I would have thought.

    I don't have an issue with it. People have just forked out big money for the Lions series and the NZRU have been healthily remunerated.

    Plus taking the game to the tiny provinces like North Harbour is great for the game....



  • @ACT-Crusader Surely if you want to take big tests to tin pot grounds you might as well go all in and award it to Christchurch.... 🎣



  • @KiwiMurph said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    What's weird is the game vs the Boks in Auckland is at Albany and not Eden Park.

    I understand that there's Eden Park fatigue with them having hosted so many big games this season (though the Samoa test would not have been factored in at the time these tests were allocated) but surely Eden Park would have sold more tickets for this game than the capacity of QBE Albany?

    I know Albany is close for a lot of the Saffa supporters but it seems strange.

    Yeah, I saw that and thought it weird.

    Firstly I thought wow, the Boks have plummeted as a drawcard if they are getting allocated Albany. Then I remembered the 3 big Lions games at Eden Park.

    Surely a chance to play at somewhere like New Plymouth. Who didn't get a Lions test, pretty much same capacity as Albany.



  • @Rapido said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    @KiwiMurph said in 2017 Bledisloe Cup & Rugby Championship (4 Nations):

    What's weird is the game vs the Boks in Auckland is at Albany and not Eden Park.

    I understand that there's Eden Park fatigue with them having hosted so many big games this season (though the Samoa test would not have been factored in at the time these tests were allocated) but surely Eden Park would have sold more tickets for this game than the capacity of QBE Albany?

    I know Albany is close for a lot of the Saffa supporters but it seems strange.

    Yeah, I saw that and thought it weird.

    Firstly I thought wow, the Boks have plummeted as a drawcard if they are getting allocated Albany. Then I remembered the 3 big Lions games at Eden Park.

    Surely a chance to play at somewhere like New Plymouth. Who didn't get a Lions test, pretty much same capacity as Albany.

    New Plymouth already gets the test v Argentina. Napier would have been good option for this one. The last time the ABs played at McLean Park (2014), they put in extra seating and had a good crowd.



  • @Stargazer If it was awarded to Napier the game would just end up being rained off....



  • @KiwiMurph our field stood up to the weather v Lions, so we shold get one too 🙂