'We knocked the bastard off'



  • Wellington, October 10, 2009.

    Mark that day as the day that Arnold will be dethroned...

    Thanks to Mrs BartMan, and her need to have goals to train for (as opposed to me, who just likes training), I have become a bodybuilder, and will be competing at the above date in the couples and individual competitions, as will Mrs B.

    I thought it would be easier to do the eating right and fat stripping diets with Mrs B, and thus deflect some of the grumpiness coming my way when the hunger pains hit, with grumpiness of mine own

    Ww went and saw our PT yesterday, Teresa Edwards, 6 times ( Or thereabouts) NZ champion, and get our eating plans and weights schedules ready for Monday kickoff.

    Lots of weights, sod all aerobic at this stage was her call, so rowing will no longer be hard out twice a day, longer slower rows. Sucks, but do it once, do it right...!!

    Will post a 'before' photo shortly of me (probably not of Mrs B, as she is shy, as least until closer to the day I expect).

    Wish us luck, and get your tickets now, I am sure it will be a sell out xzxrofl



  • Good luck Bartman, will you be taking any roids for that classic Arnie look ?

    No pressure but I'm expecting you to look something like this...

    [img]http://alexthegood.com/main/images/work/powerthirst.jpg[/img]



  • I already do....

    Was talking to our Trainer about drugs - and she was saying the that 'juice boys' will spend $10,000 per competition on 'extras'!!!

    And no, not talking to her about taking them, just talking as you do about the freaks in the sport!!



  • [quote name='BartMan']I already do....

    Was talking to our Trainer about drugs - and she was saying the that 'juice boys' will spend $10,000 per competition on 'extras'!!!

    And no, not talking to her about taking them, just talking as you do about the freaks in the sport!![/quote]

    Did you by any chance see that doco on Justin Rys the dude from Wellington ? he has some rather large vein popping guns on him and used to live next door to my then girlfriend now wife. Myself and a mate had just helped her move in and had carried a particularly heavy, awkward fridge up the stairs, JR rolled up in his Merc ( this was pre jail ) and had a chat to us, I said that it was a shame he hadn't turned up earlier cos he could have scooped up the the fridge in one arm and carried it up for us !

    Apparently his weekly grocery bill used to top a grand and he'd frequently chunder trying to chow down enough food to maintain his bulk. He was a bit gutted when he got out of jail cos he could only bench press 220kg ( sub standard gym equipment in the slammer ) after doing more previously. What a fucken weakling eusa_whistle



  • So whats the basic plan? Are you bulking and then start cutting around July?

    Have either of you done a contest before?



  • I did a contest nigh on 20 years ago!! 1989 or 90! MrsB not done anything like this before, but once a goal is set, the focus comes on, and whammo.

    SO yes basically start up is building more muscle mass, and then start leaning off about three months out or so - will know exactly what the plan is when we receive our first programme in the next day or so.



  • Where's this pic of Mrs Bartman in a bikini then?



  • lol Paj, baby steps - first day at the gym and the eating plan.

    BUt will have to get the photos this week!



  • Not trying to piss in your pocket too much Bartman but you'd be in pretty decent shape already wouldn't you ie 95 kg, lots of rowing and able to push a fair bit of weight ?



  • look at any 38 year old ex prop, and you will find a spare tire!!



  • [quote name='MN5']Not trying to pi$$ in your pocket too much Bartman but you'd be in pretty decent shape already wouldn't you ie 95 kg, lots of rowing and able to push a fair bit of weight ?[/quote]

    ex props usually in the mold of 'power lifter' rather than body builder though.. she's a bit of a different sport...

    have you changed your weight training programme quite a bit Bart?

    Jebus I'd hate to be around your place during the cutting up period.. used to train at a gym with one of the top nz amateurs - most of the year he'd be a good dude but sheesh the 6 weeks leading up to a comp you'd just steer clear.. grumpiest ba$tard on the planet!



  • PT has set us on both on programmes - bulding muscle - rep range 12-10-8 and the 'floss' muscles (lat raises etc) 15s mainly.

    Diet plenty of protein, sod all carbs already.

    Body parts once per week.

    Only allowed slow rowing, which sucks, but minimal aerobic activity at this stage of proceedings.

    All Good though, week one almost over!!



  • into second week now, the eating is a breeze, just resign yourself to being a bit peckish and having no energy, and wallah, done!! Not really the peckish thing, but is easy if you are organised.

    Weights have been good - although the leg workout almost destroys you - that is a full body workout and a half!

    other bits and bobs not so bad, although arms, which only get about three exercises apiece are also killers.

    SO week 2, and loving it.

    We were told not to worry about weight, as that means nothing, but I love facts and figures, so weight is now down to 93kg, 8kg to go before I can play for Donsteppa's rugby team... Better indicator is my belt is now in need of another notch drilled in it!



  • [quote name='BartMan']into second week now, the eating is a breeze, just resign yourself to being a bit peckish and having no energy, and wallah, done!! Not really the peckish thing, but is easy if you are organised.

    Weights have been good - although the leg workout almost destroys you - that is a full body workout and a half!

    other bits and bobs not so bad, although arms, which only get about three exercises apiece are also killers.

    SO week 2, and loving it.

    We were told not to worry about weight, as that means nothing, but I love facts and figures, so weight is now down to 93kg, 8kg to go before I can play for Donsteppa's rugby team... Better indicator is my belt is now in need of another notch drilled in it![/quote]

    I've kept carbs to a minimum over the last few months and snuck down to 98-99kg but sometimes don't feel up to huge weights sessions as much. Bart how are you dealing with doing weights and having bugger all energy ?



  • just do it! Don't think about the energy, or perceived lack of it. Just do your workout and rip into it full noise!

    That's my theory anyway, and has been fine for 6 workouts.

    Love my leg workouts. Don't squat until the third exercise, start out with 10 minutes of walking lunges, then seated leg extensions, 4 x 15 reps, and then squats (40 seconds rest intervals). By the time I am squatting legs are already shaking and thrashed. Foloow with leg curls and stiff leg deadlifts, then calves. Feel like death at the end, but a good death!!



  • Still going well, Eating easy now, but certainly not a bulk up period, leaning off like lightning, down to 91.5kg.

    Enjoying it too, which has got to be good...!!



  • [quote name='BartMan']Still going well, Eating easy now, but certainly not a bulk up period, leaning off like lightning, down to [b]91.5kg.[/b]

    Enjoying it too, which has got to be good...!![/quote]

    What have you been eating mainly Bartman ie what protein rich foods do you suggest ? thats a big drop in weight for just a week or so !



  • [quote name='MN5'][quote name='BartMan']Still going well, Eating easy now, but certainly not a bulk up period, leaning off like lightning, down to [b]91.5kg.[/b]

    Enjoying it too, which has got to be good...!![/quote]

    What have you been eating mainly Bartman ie what protein rich foods do you suggest ? thats a big drop in weight for just a week or so ![/quote]

    Hey MN5, get on to the Almonds (kernals) bro. Eat them 3 times a day. They are the highest protein nut and they do things to help the cravings.

    Nothing beats fruit and vegies as well. Get into the 3 or 4 bean mixes (but without all the added sauces, oils etc)



  • [quote name='ACT Crusader'][quote name='MN5'][quote name='BartMan']Still going well, Eating easy now, but certainly not a bulk up period, leaning off like lightning, down to [b]91.5kg.[/b]

    Enjoying it too, which has got to be good...!![/quote]

    What have you been eating mainly Bartman ie what protein rich foods do you suggest ? thats a big drop in weight for just a week or so ![/quote]

    Hey MN5, get on to the Almonds (kernals) bro. Eat them 3 times a day. They are the highest protein nut and they do things to help the cravings.

    Nothing beats fruit and vegies as well. Get into the 3 or 4 bean mixes (but without all the added sauces, oils etc)[/quote]

    Yeah good thinking, I do love almonds ( and I suppose I can't justify having bacon and eggs every morning sadly, luckily there usually isn't time in the morning ! ) I always try and knock off a couple of carrots and apples a day as well...



  • Photos as promised - 2 weeeks and 2 days into eating / training programme.
    Not the greatest shots - steamed up bathroom and funny angles giving body funny shapes!

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  • Great work Bart I can't really say anything about the photos without sounding dodgy so all I'll request is maybe a nice double guns pose next time



  • went in and weiughed in and measured in today, will get results sent through by our PT - Mrs bartMan has shed 3kg, and I have shed 4kg from our first weight in. Also huge losses in measurements - I think I have lost 5cm in waist or something, which I have noted, as my belt keeps getting bigger and bigger on me!



  • As long as the guns stay the same or grow aye Bartman. What did Andrew Mulligan say on crowd goes wild the other night ?

    "Suns out guns out!!!"

    brilliant ( if not entirely appropriate in Wellington today )



  • got notes from PT - lost 5.1 kg fat, gained 1.1kg lean muscle mass.

    Mrs bartMan gained .7 kg LMM.

    weighed in this morning at 90.5 kg. Almost ready to make my debut in under 85kg rugby.... xzxsarcastic



  • Hooker or prop? xzxcool



  • mate, at this weight I am playing anywhere I bloody want!! I am back to openside flanker weight - althoguh I was 20 years old when playing club rugby with a seven on my back - just after I last did a body building competition actually...

    But I think prop would be nice...

    Weighed in this morning at 89.8kg after leg workout.



  • another week of training and eating like a rabbit who likes steak and chicken...

    Leg workout again today, and weight in 88.5kg.

    I think Donsteppa, that I might play number eight... xzxsarcastic



  • Send that diet fella, the weights shreading off ya



  • Yeah definintely post it up Bartman!

    How are you feeling energy wise???



  • [quote name='BartMan']another week of training and eating like a rabbit who likes steak and chicken...

    Leg workout again today, and weight in 88.5kg.

    I think Donsteppa, that I might play number eight... xzxsarcastic[/quote]

    What happened to Mr. I'd never ever be that light, I'd just be a skeleton?



  • Don's, it's happened, I'm a skeleton xzxshok

    Energy is not to bad, all the intake is accounted for, all the outgoings are accounted for. The mrs horse riding is even taken into account when out PT does the eating plans.

    To do it properly, you would have to have an appointment with her and then she would set you up with a training plan, and the eating to go with it. Only cost $40, and then a monthly visit is $20 where she re measures, adjusts programme and food and all that.

    So at the moment it is four days of weights, wednesday off, and weekends off. I am meant to row 3 x 20 minutes a week, but because the MRs does not like to walk that bush track we ran that time Hooroo alone, I walk with her twice a week for an hour instead.

    Anyone keen to give her a call, I'll find her number at home for you.



  • Can you ask your missus where she got her undies from Bart? Thanks



  • xzxshok

    Shimmers, Wangamata xzxgood



  • [quote name='BartMan']xzxshok

    Shimmers, Wangamata xzxgood[/quote]

    Not for me may I add!



  • [quote name='Red Beard'][quote name='BartMan']xzxshok

    Shimmers, Wangamata xzxgood[/quote]

    Not for me may I add![/quote]

    By the way Nigel who works in the TA gym won two novice bodybuilding titles at the Nationals last year. If you are ever down our way I will take you in for a protein shake with him for a yarn. I think Teresa worked with him last year.

    Im entering a Waikato Powerlifting Club Comp (novice section) on the 7th of November. Maybe I should start a new thread. Training is really picking up now, Im just starting to lift some decent tin again but there are no signs of losing my motor and I eat like a bird (and I stopped drinking piss on New Years Day). Im still a burly 111kgs at 176cm (on tippy toes). My Nov goals are 220kg Squat, 220kg Deadlift, 160 Bench.



  • I was thinking of getting into that next RB - a bit of powerlifting. I used to be able to get out 240kg dead lifts and 200kg squats, although I don't think my form on the squats would have been the flashest!! Bench press lets me down though, 137 I think was the best I have done, something liek that, although it was for 2 reps while prop cyril was blazing away at 150s!

    Squatting 12 reps at 115 at the moment at 88kg bodyweight, and will up that again next week, so feeling good there.

    Bench press though shite since shoulder injury, after doing three sets of incline dumbells (30s), I can do 12-10-8 reps of bench at 60, 65 and 65 kg, and it's killing me.

    Hate lifting pretend tim, although my chest feels rooted at the end of that!!

    so what do you do for PL training...?



  • [quote name='BartMan']I was thinking of getting into that next RB - a bit of powerlifting. I used to be able to get out 240kg dead lifts and 200kg squats, although I don't think my form on the squats would have been the flashest!! Bench press lets me down though, 137 I think was the best I have done, something liek that, although it was for 2 reps while prop cyril was blazing away at 150s!

    Squatting 12 reps at 115 at the moment at 88kg bodyweight, and will up that again next week, so feeling good there.

    Bench press though shite since shoulder injury, after doing three sets of incline dumbells (30s), I can do 12-10-8 reps of bench at 60, 65 and 65 kg, and it's killing me.

    Hate lifting pretend tim, although my chest feels rooted at the end of that!!

    so what do you do for PL training...?[/quote]

    I have a 3 day a week programme, 3 exercises per workout, 5 set of 5 reps each bodypart. Ive had to extend it to four days so I can have one day just squatting. I need more warmup sets before hitting my working sets. This is a 12 week programme and Phase One of a Four part year long programme (one week rest between each phase). Phase Two is lower reps eg triples, doubles, singles. Im just concentrating on squat, deadlifts, weighted chins, BB Rows, bench, close grip and military press. At the moment Im benching 3 x 5 at 130, deadlifitng 5s at 190 and squatting 5s at 180. Pretty pleased seeing I had knee surgery on Feb 13. Im still working within myself though, but I have to stop eating like a bird if I am to progress. I dont have many pain free days, either old shoulder or knee creaks play up. But Im out there doing it and having a crack.



  • glucosamine (spelling?) RB is the one - I have had trouble with my feet for years, pain all the time etc. the mrs always saying, take the damn pills. I finally did - and wham, ready for a bloody marathon!! Give them a crack anyway!



  • Still rocking along, weight levelled out at 88.X kilos over the last couple of weeks. Which means I hope, that the fat is still going, but the muscle is coming onboard just as fast as the fat is going...

    Will find out on Thursday when we see out trainer...

    Leg workouts still hell on earth, shoulders / chest / back workouts not so hell on earth, but still ample!!



  • [quote name='BartMan']glucosamine (spelling?) RB is the one - I have had trouble with my feet for years, pain all the time etc. the mrs always saying, take the damn pills. I finally did - and wham, ready for a bloody marathon!! Give them a crack anyway![/quote]

    That's what I've started taking but everyone tells me it'll take 6 months before I feel the benefits. You're implying they worked quicker than that on you.

    Shoulder gets really sore, don't know why and a short rest normally fixes it.
    I've (apparently) got carpel tunnel (excuse spelling) in both hands and need an op to fix them however using the throttle, clutch and brake on the bile seems to be helping this so will leave the surgery option for a while yet, only really hurts when I'm using tools like a hammer or screw drivers.
    Knee.. one had a cartilage op a decade or so ago and has always been a bit untrustworthy since, the other does most of the work and gets tied. After a resent crack I thought I was in for another op but having started to again wear a knee support when doing exercise it seems to have come right and actually feels better than it has in years.. properly because it's caring around 23kg less.

    Heel spur I'm managing with anti-inflammatories which do help alot. One doc didn't think it was worth operating on and just told me to stop doing the exercise so I'm going for a second opinion from a doc who's supposed to really know his stuff, unfortunately that wont be for 5 weeks.


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