Chiefs v B&I Lions



  • Chiefs team naming on Facebook at 1pm.



  • Chiefs

    1 Siegfried Fisi’ihoi, 2. Liam Polwart, 3. Nepo Laulala, 4. Dominic Bird, 5. Michael Allardice, 6. Mitchell Brown, 7. Lachlan Boshier, 8. Tom Sanders
    9 Finlay Christie, 10. Stephen Donald (c), 11. Solomon Alaimalo, 12. Johnny Fa'auli, 13. Tim Nanai-Williams, 14. Toni Pulu, 15. Shaun Stevenson

    Reserves:
    16 Hika Elliott, 17. Aidan Ross, 18. Atu Moli, 19. Liam Messam, 20. Mitchell Karpik, 21. Jonathan Taumateine, 22. Luteru Laulala*, 23. Chase Tiatia*

    *Chiefs debut

    http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/latest-news/468-centurion-stephen-donald-to-captain-gallagher-chiefs-against-british-irish-lions



  • Probably not enough class there to beat the midweek Lions team, but if the guys upfront get enough ball and Beaver can have one more great game directing things around, there is enough danger there to cause problems.



  • Wow. That is a surprisingly weak team. Where are the other Maori players?



  • @Mokey said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    Wow. That is a surprisingly weak team. Where are the other Maori players?

    Hopefully hanging their heads in shame.



  • @Mokey said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    Wow. That is a surprisingly weak team. Where are the other Maori players?

    Yeah. Pretty much the core of the team not there.
    Dmac, Hames and Lowe were pretty poor last night but surely they are worth another go for the Chiefs.
    TKB i could understand if the ABs wanted him in camp but the others plus Ngatai would make this team a whole lot stronger.



  • @pukunui said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @Mokey said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    Wow. That is a surprisingly weak team. Where are the other Maori players?

    Yeah. Pretty much the core of the team not there.
    Dmac, Hames and Lowe were pretty poor last night but surely they are worth another go for the Chiefs.
    TKB i could understand if the ABs wanted him in camp but the others plus Ngatai would make this team a whole lot stronger.

    Exactly. I wasn't expecting to see TKB, but not amused to see DMac, Ngatai, Lowe, Hames etc missing. Unless they are injured, they should be there. If Messam can front, so can they.



  • Pathetic.

    Can't back up 3 days later? some members of the Lions are doing that each week this tour.

    Pathetic. Soft.



  • not to mention the Maori backs did little other than drop catches/passes last night...



  • Maybe Rennie was only prepared to let them face the Lions once on tour?



  • @Stargazer said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    Chiefs

    1. Stephen Donald (c)

    Chiefs by 1.



  • B&I Lions squad:

    15 Liam Williams – Scarlets, Wales, #833
    14 Jack Nowell – Exeter Chiefs, England, #828
    13 Jared Payne – Ulster, Ireland, #830
    12 Robbie Henshaw – Leinster, Ireland, #824
    11 Elliot Daly – Wasps, England, #822
    10 Dan Biggar – Ospreys, Wales, #821
    9 Greig Laidlaw – Gloucester Rugby, Scotland, #810

    1 Joe Marler – Harlequins, England, #811
    2 Rory Best (c) – Ulster, Ireland, #793
    3 Dan Cole – Leicester Tigers, England, #794
    4 Iain Henderson – Ulster, Ireland, #808
    5 Courtney Lawes – Northampton Saints, England, #826
    6 James Haskell – Wasps, England, #823
    7 Justin Tipuric – Ospreys, Wales, #786
    8 CJ Stander – Munster, Ireland, #831

    Replacements:
    16 Kristian Dacey – Cardiff Blues, Wales
    17 Allan Dell – Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland
    18 Tomas Francis – Exeter Chiefs, Wales
    19 Cory Hill – Newport Gwent Dragons, Wales
    20 Alun Wyn Jones – Ospreys, Wales, #761
    21 Gareth Davies – Scarlets, Wales
    22 Finn Russell – Glasgow Warriors, Scotland
    23 Tommy Seymour – Glasgow Warriors, Scotland, #813

    http://www.lionsrugby.com/?p=18055



  • Going easy on the home town boy?

    Hail the Conquering Hero Returns and all that



  • Very firmly a mid-week team with only Liam Williams in with a shot of making the Test 23.

    Daly and AWJ will be there, and Biggar if Farrell is injured.

    Cory Hill covering second and back row.

    If the Lions play as a team, and players like Nowell, Payne and Henshaw show why they were selected in the first place then this could be a comfortable win.

    If players go looking for a Test spot it could unravel pretty quickly.

    And there are certainly 2nd abd 3rd Test spots up for grabs.



  • I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!



  • @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    Tours are fascinating.

    Remarkable how some players can go so off the boil and others come charging through.



  • @MiketheSnow said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    Tours are fascinating.

    Remarkable how some players can go so off the boil and others come charging through.

    Most 'experts' had Henshaw locked in for 12 but he ain't got a chance



  • @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    He's a lot better than he has shown on tour, but he is definitely NOT your classic winger, for one thing he doesn't have the pace at the highest level. His game is all about popping up all over the place, beating the first defender and then seeing what eventuates after that. He took a little while to find his niche with England and has benefitted under Eddie Jones who appreciates what he brings and uses it.

    Having said all that, for the Lions with the short assimilation time and also the more direct way Gatland likes to play, I would have taken Johnny May in preference purely because he would fit that bit better. Oh and he does have pace.



  • @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MiketheSnow said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    @MN5 said in Chiefs v B&I Lions:

    I'm trying really hard but I can't think of a crapper winger than Nowell.....and he's not even Welsh!

    Tours are fascinating.

    Remarkable how some players can go so off the boil and others come charging through.

    Most 'experts' had Henshaw locked in for 12 but he ain't got a chance

    With most players getting limited game time they ahem to lay their marker down early. If for whatever reason the game goes away from you, it's a long way back. Some are lucky enough to turn things around. Look at O'Mahoney after his first game, many had written him off and now some have him as captaining the test side. Sadly for Henshaw for a number of reasons he has not been able to turn things round as yet.



  • Bah, shitty team, should have let the Maori players play. Ngatai has hardly had any rugby and McKenzie and Lowe would have been fired up to improve on their Saturday performances.

    Why not start Hika as well? You want some experience on a young team.