Rotorua 'International' Stadium



  • @Rapido yeah while it's great to get 20k through the gates in Whangarei, the grounds are not set up to adequately service that number.

    An Irish guy commented in the toilets about how long he had to wait at half time and I just told him we normally get 1/4 of that number to games so isn't ever a concern, and given this happens so infrequently, it doesn't bother me 🙂



  • @Rapido said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    @dogmeat said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    I don't think an extra flight was required given they could have flown (e.g.) Dunedin to Hamilton Sunday rather than Dunedin to Rotorua on a Wednesday.

    However if as seems the only logical proposition you don't want to go to the SI twice then playing 3 games in two cities in 8 days probably wasn't the best option.

    With hindsight the Prov Baba's could/should have been at N Plymouth and The Maori at Okara Park (or whatever its called nowadays)

    Okara Park and Rotorua Stadium are almost identical though.

    I was at both venues - both were wet as, with mud underfoot. Whangarei was much closer to town though - a relatively short walk. Rotorua suffered from the distance, and the need to bus everyone closer to the ground.

    I say closer, as it was still a 10 minute walk to the bank 🙂

    Also, having been to many rugby games, I expect not to eat or drink at the ground. Getting beers can often be a 20 minute round trip (or more at halftime), and it's just not worth it. Preload, sideload or just make do ... whatever works, but I personally have given up on getting service at busy stadia



  • @dogmeat I think the point is I'd imagine for a lot of Lions tour party their first game was Rotorua. So if they base themselves in Auckland for the first test, arrive a week early and get to/from Rotorua easily.

    The Crusaders specifically requested their game was early in the tour to increase it's hype and the Lions would have wanted to play the strongest two non-test teams (on paper) the two Saturdays before test 1.



  • @KiwiMurph I was meaning change the venues nit the programme

    @rapido Many years since the only time I attended Okara (GO HARBOUR) but I thought it had enjoyed a significant upgrade. To hear them up north speak it's the Allianz Stadium of the South Pacific whereas Rotorua is more like an Alliance abbatoir



  • @KiwiMurph Not sure about this time, but in 2005 the Lions wanted their opening match in Whangarei.

    @dogmeat you might be a cnut! 🖕🏻 😉 Nothing wrong with our stadium for our normal crowds of under 5000



  • @rapido Many years since the only time I attended Okara (GO HARBOUR) but I thought it had enjoyed a significant upgrade. To hear them up north speak it's the Allianz Stadium of the South Pacific whereas Rotorua is more like an Alliance abbatoir

    Rotorua featured an old school, open air (no roof) urinal system with classic masonry half-pipes. Standing there in the pissing rain having a piss was super-ironic.

    They seemed (in the low light) to have given the back of the urinal a good coat of paint though 🙂



  • @dogmeat I'm suggesting that potentially one of the reasons for the venue of the Maori game the Saturday before test 1 being close to Auckland is for travelling Lions fans.



  • Inter-provincial stadium teasing.

    Why did Whangarei cope supposedly better? Less out of towners? Or just simply that the stadium is walkable?

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  • @Rapido over 40,000 at that game, Auckland v North Auckland Ranfurly Shield, 1972/73 I think it was (we lost it)

    Imagine the H & S issues if they had that many nowadays, I expect 20k must be pushing things as it is!



  • @taniwharugby said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    @Rapido over 40,000 at that game, Auckland v North Auckland Ranfurly Shield, 1972/73 I think it was (we lost it)

    Imagine the H & S issues if they had that many nowadays, I expect 20k must be pushing things as it is!

    Removed the velodrome since then, you could fit 42,000 in now .....



  • @KiwiPie said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    @shark Don't bother looking up the Speedway stadium, the Bay don't even play there any more. It was all seater and under cover but you're a long way from the field. Some happy memories of watching a decent team there ....

    I think it's the worst park I've ever watched pro rugby in. You're just too far removed from the action.



  • The other thing I recall now about my substandard child un-friendly experience 12 years ago at Rotorua.

    When you come into the ground (lateish) on the grandstand side corner. The field is lit up by the floodlights but the embankment is a dark grey mass of unlit heaving humanity. You can't stand there and look at the embankment for maybe a patch of green in the top corner that you can take your kids to.

    It's guessing in the dark.



  • @nzzp said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    @Rapido said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    @dogmeat said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    I don't think an extra flight was required given they could have flown (e.g.) Dunedin to Hamilton Sunday rather than Dunedin to Rotorua on a Wednesday.

    However if as seems the only logical proposition you don't want to go to the SI twice then playing 3 games in two cities in 8 days probably wasn't the best option.

    With hindsight the Prov Baba's could/should have been at N Plymouth and The Maori at Okara Park (or whatever its called nowadays)

    Okara Park and Rotorua Stadium are almost identical though.

    I was at both venues - both were wet as, with mud underfoot. Whangarei was much closer to town though - a relatively short walk. Rotorua suffered from the distance, and the need to bus everyone closer to the ground.

    I say closer, as it was still a 10 minute walk to the bank 🙂

    Also, having been to many rugby games, I expect not to eat or drink at the ground. Getting beers can often be a 20 minute round trip (or more at halftime), and it's just not worth it. Preload, sideload or just make do ... whatever works, but I personally have given up on getting service at busy stadia

    Probably a bit of an archaic attitude given the expectation of modern fans. And this is no excuse for Rotorua Stadium being as shit as it was.



  • The whole "Minimise the Lions fans' travel by keeping this game close to Auckland' thing is a crock of shit too. The NZRU already had them travelling from from Auckland to Whangarei, back to Auckland, to the SI for two games, back up to the upper North Island then Wellington and finally back to Auckland.

    What I suggest would have worked is a third game in the SI (the Maori game) replacing Rotorua and then heading to Hamilton for the Chiefs game. Bugger all - if any - extra travel, a better stadium experience no matter what, probably greater revenue, and another game in am Island lacking in Lions fever.



  • It should have been in Invercargill and all flights from the SI to the NI should have been 'delayed' for the following 5 days...everyone loves a bus trip...



  • @Unite said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    It should have been in Invercargill and all flights from the SI to the NI should have been 'delayed' for the following 5 days...everyone loves a bus trip...

    Worse things could happen than an enforced detour through Central Otago



  • @Nepia said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    @KiwiPie said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    Don't bother looking up the Speedway stadium, the Bay don't even play there any more. It was all seater and under cover but you're a long way from the field. Some happy memories of watching a decent team there ....

    I think it's the worst park I've ever watched pro rugby in. You're just too far removed from the action.

    Agree. And for all those bitching about transport to and from International Stadium, the worst traffic congestion I've experienced after a rugby game was at BayPark. This is despite having a fuckin' large roundabout outside!



  • Thankfully Baypark won't be a rugby ground again - though I miss being able to walk to the games. Tauranga games are back to the Domain, and one day maybe this...



  • @shark said in Rotorua 'International' Stadium:

    The whole "Minimise the Lions fans' travel by keeping this game close to Auckland' thing is a crock of shit too. The NZRU already had them travelling from from Auckland to Whangarei, back to Auckland, to the SI for two games, back up to the upper North Island then Wellington and finally back to Auckland.

    What I suggest would have worked is a third game in the SI (the Maori game) replacing Rotorua and then heading to Hamilton for the Chiefs game. Bugger all - if any - extra travel, a better stadium experience no matter what, probably greater revenue, and another game in am Island lacking in Lions fever.

    I think probably a lot of the package tours started with this week.

    I'd say most of the Lions tourists in the earlier weeks were independents.