Fatbusting for your kids !



  • Avo all,

    Just a typical workout routine for any preschooler to adhere to. MN5 jr will be starting tonight....if CYFs don't lock me up for abusing my own child I'll start a forum for him.....

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  • Mate, just make sure they aren't eating shit and drinking fizzy drinks and play outside alot. I also think that anybody that takes a kid under 5 to McDonalds (or any other fast food joint) should be ashamed.



  • [quote]Mate, just make sure they aren't eating shit and drinking fizzy drinks and play outside alot. I also think that anybody that takes a [b]kid under 5 to McDonalds (or any other fast food joint) should be ashamed[/b].[/quote]

    It's got to be a TREAT - not a thing that you do when you goto the maul or wherever - in my opinion anyway!



  • [quote name='BartMan'][quote]Mate, just make sure they aren't eating shit and drinking fizzy drinks and play outside alot. I also think that anybody that takes a [b]kid under 5 to McDonalds (or any other fast food joint) should be ashamed[/b].[/quote]

    It's got to be a TREAT - not a thing that you do when you goto the maul or wherever - in my opinion anyway![/quote]

    Mall Bart not maul xzxcool he won't be entering ANY of the latter kind cos he's gonna be a fleet footed back !

    playing outside shouldn't be a problem hes constantly crawling/stumbling around when we go outside.



  • lol, Do I have rugby on the brain, never!!!



  • In all seriousness have any of you seen such a freaky kid ? I've never seen roid rage on one so young. Anything goes in communist countries huh ?



  • [quote name='Kirwan']Mate, just make sure they aren't eating shit and drinking fizzy drinks and play outside alot. I also think that anybody that takes a kid under 5 to McDonalds (or any other fast food joint) should be ashamed.[/quote]

    Im certainly guilty of that on numerous occasions! xzxshok My tribe all enjoy a weekly fast food experience. Having said that my kids play outside for hours upon hours. The young fella just came second (for junior boys) in cross country at school, plus he plays soccer, cricket, rugby and dabbles in judo also.



  • [quote name='Red Beard'][quote name='Kirwan']Mate, just make sure they aren't eating shit and drinking fizzy drinks and play outside alot. I also think that anybody that takes a kid under 5 to McDonalds (or any other fast food joint) should be ashamed.[/quote]

    Im certainly guilty of that on numerous occasions! xzxshok My tribe all enjoy a weekly fast food experience. Having said that my kids play outside for hours upon hours. The young fella just came second (for junior boys) in cross country at school, plus he plays soccer, cricket, rugby and dabbles in judo also.[/quote]

    Ignore Kirwan's one size fits all dogmatism, you shouldn't be ashamed. xzxgood



  • IMO kids need a good solid routine when it comes to eating. It might get boring for the parents (ie being at home every night to get them a good meal with plenty of veges), but its crucial to them understanding the difference to what is 'normal eating' and when they do get a 50c cone from Maccas. This way they will know that this doesn't occur all the time.

    I hardly ever ate Maccas growing up, my parents just couldn't afford it, but when we did get it and I would halve a burger with one of my bro's, my parents made a big fuss of it. Its not only a product of today but of years past too that when kids expect to get things like treats and its no big deal, and the parent cave in - ITS GAME OVER!!!!



  • [quote name='MN5']Avo all,

    Just a typical workout routine for any preschooler to adhere to. MN5 jr will be starting tonight....if CYFs don't lock me up for abusing my own child I'll start a forum for him.....

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    So in 20 years time they will video footage of the same person and his height will be the same.....



  • [quote name='MN5']In all seriousness have any of you seen such a freaky kid ? I've never seen roid rage on one so young. Anything goes in communist countries huh ?[/quote]

    Just watched the link, man that's child abuse, plain and simple. Going to give that kid serious problems when he's older.



  • [quote name='Donsteppa'][quote name='Red Beard'][quote name='Kirwan']Mate, just make sure they aren't eating shit and drinking fizzy drinks and play outside alot. I also think that anybody that takes a kid under 5 to McDonalds (or any other fast food joint) should be ashamed.[/quote]

    Im certainly guilty of that on numerous occasions! xzxshok My tribe all enjoy a weekly fast food experience. Having said that my kids play outside for hours upon hours. The young fella just came second (for junior boys) in cross country at school, plus he plays soccer, cricket, rugby and dabbles in judo also.[/quote]

    Ignore Kirwan's one size fits all dogmatism, you shouldn't be ashamed. xzxgood[/quote]

    It's not one size fits all whatever, shovelling that crap in kids under five is disgusting. When they are older it's fine as an occasional treat (sorry Red Beard, but once a week is pretty regular) but kids learn their bad habits from their parents. There is a reason why there are so many fat kids in NZ these days, major health problem.

    They also learn their good habits, so good stuff on the exercise.



  • I wouldn't have thought one meal out of twenty-one - if it was once a week - would turn a child into Butterbean. Especially given Friday night fish and chips wasn't exactly unknown before Evil McDonalds was widely available.

    I don't think anyone is advocating "shovelling" fast food into kids on a daily basis, though sadly it seems to happen, along with lots of chips/lollies/little exercise, which appears to be the major cause of the childhood obesity stats that we read and see today.

    I'm not sure where it is, but I guess there has to be a fine line between not eating junk more often than as a treat, but also not making it the forbidden fruit for when they're older/have pocket money to go out with either. I remember seeing kids like that when I was growing up too, both junk food early on and later on alcohol...



  • [quote name='Kirwan'][quote name='MN5']In all seriousness have any of you seen such a freaky kid ? I've never seen roid rage on one so young. Anything goes in communist countries huh ?[/quote]

    Just watched the link, man that's child abuse, plain and simple. Going to give that kid serious problems when he's older.[/quote]

    So all your kids aren't like that then ? phew, thought the boy was a bit slow there for sec xzxcool



  • [quote name='Kirwan'][quote name='Donsteppa'][quote name='Red Beard'][quote name='Kirwan']Mate, just make sure they aren't eating shit and drinking fizzy drinks and play outside alot. I also think that anybody that takes a kid under 5 to McDonalds (or any other fast food joint) should be ashamed.[/quote]

    Im certainly guilty of that on numerous occasions! xzxshok My tribe all enjoy a weekly fast food experience. Having said that my kids play outside for hours upon hours. The young fella just came second (for junior boys) in cross country at school, plus he plays soccer, cricket, rugby and dabbles in judo also.[/quote]

    Ignore Kirwan's one size fits all dogmatism, you shouldn't be ashamed. xzxgood[/quote]

    It's not one size fits all whatever, shovelling that crap in kids under five is disgusting. When they are older it's fine as an occasional treat (sorry Red Beard, but once a week is pretty regular) but kids learn their bad habits from their parents. There is a reason why there are so many fat kids in NZ these days, major health problem.

    They also learn their good habits, so good stuff on the exercise.[/quote]

    Well for some reason my son is a happy, healthy eating and talented little athlete and my 3 yr old daughter tears around the back section for hours despite their old man being built like a tug boat. Kids should eat 4-5 small, balanced and healthy meals/snacks a day. Surely a feed of greasies once every 30 meals isnt negligent is it? It certainly isnt in my book anway. Most gym trainers/fitness programmers seem to advocate a rest day where you can enjoy a few treats once a week.



  • An ex-gf told me she was bought up thinking McD's, KFC and other fast food joints were the the work of Satan himself. Then when freedom from the oppressive obsessive parents was gained, she fully ballooned out of control. Kinda like daughters who aren't allowed to party with their friends, turning into slappers later in life, she then ended up with an eating disorder courtesy of mum and dad too. And she was still nucking futs when we split!

    Everything in moderation, especially moderation! I reckon RB is on the happy path. xzxgood



  • Some selective reading going on here. I clearly said before five, and I specifically said junk food like McDonalds. As an occasional treat after that is perfectly fine, especially if exercise is encouraged.

    Giving that crap to a three year old once a week is not a healthy choice in my opinion. But, each to their own and all that.



  • [quote name='Kirwan']Some selective reading going on here. I clearly said before five, and I specifically said junk food like McDonalds. As an occasional treat after that is perfectly fine, especially if exercise is encouraged.

    Giving that crap to a three year old once a week is not a healthy choice in my opinion. But, each to their own and all that.[/quote]

    Each to their own Kirwan, exactly what I was thinking. It also depends how you order your kids combos thesedays. Plenty of options at McDs for example, now like subbing fruit pieces or water with your burger/nuggets instead of fries or coke.



  • [quote name='Kirwan']Some selective reading going on here. I clearly said before five, and I specifically said junk food like McDonalds. As an occasional treat after that is perfectly fine, especially if exercise is encouraged.

    Giving that crap to a three year old once a week is not a healthy choice in my opinion. But, each to their own and all that.[/quote]

    You must be a fun dad. Theres no problem with them having Mcdonalds or Burger King now and then even if they are under 5. My eldest who is 4 gets Burger King as a treat maybe once a month and there absolutely nothing wrong with that. So long as kids are active then the occasional junk food meal isnt a problem. Christ NZers (at least I did) used to grow up with fish and chips every friday. That's hardly better than Maccas and is probably worse in some cases.



  • So you equate fun with not caring about the health of your kids? If you do even a smidgen of research about how diet affects future potential (particularly in the first few years) you'd think twice before feed kids that young stuff that's barely food.

    After five, sure, an occasional treat is fine (and I agree with your once a month routine too) but I've seen two year olds in Maccas downing handfuls of fries downing it with coke. Those kids are stuffed at school later on with reduced concentration and lower potential. Great parenting.

    I'm proud of my parenting, the fact that my kid prefers fruit and vegetables when offered something sweet is an achievement these days IMO.



  • [quote]So you equate fun with not caring about the health of your kids? If you do even a smidgen of research about how diet affects future potential (particularly in the first few years) you'd think twice before feed kids that young stuff that's barely food.[/quote]

    No of course not mate, when did I say that? I was simply saying that it's not a big deal to let a kid enjoy Maccas now and then and certainly not something to criticise parents for. I agree entirely that very regular outings to junk food places is similar to child abuse and that the effect on kids can be shocking. My son walks to kindy most days which is a 2+km round trip and he's always running around. The odd chicken nugget with fries is not going to harm his development.

    [quote]After five, sure, an occasional treat is fine (and I agree with your once a month routine too) but I've seen two year olds in Maccas downing handfuls of fries downing it with coke. Those kids are stuffed at school later on with reduced concentration and lower potential. Great parenting.[/quote]

    Totally agree.

    [quote]I'm proud of my parenting, the fact that my kid prefers fruit and vegetables when offered something sweet is an achievement these days IMO[/quote]

    That is a great achievement, no its a farking great achievement. However, I'm always concerned about the "Rod and Todd Effect" (Flanders' kids on the Simpsons who go nuts when they eat sugar) whereby if you never give kids any sweets or the occasional junk food they will overcompensate and go bananas when they get the opportunity to.



  • So we are violently agreeing? Cool.

    It's not like the boy never has sugar (He has Aunties that I have very little control over, and he's just had a 2nd birthday) just that we've made an effort to give our kids a better diet that we have...

    I was perhaps a little over the top in my first post, but had just seen said kid scoffing fries and it pissed me off.



  • Whats the massive deal about McDonalds? There burgeras are no worse than any other junk food. I think they get a bum rap by the soccer mum brigade, usually the same ones who refuse to vacinate their children..... I am not saying McDonalds is good for you, but the reality is it is probably healthier than a lot of crap kids shovel into thier mouths.
    And dont start on the marketing to children malarky... every single junk food company pulls that stunt.

    Having said that, my son wont be having McDonalds until he is going to school.. and even then only as a very special treat, but the same applies that he wont be eating much other junk food either.



  • [quote name='Baron Silas Greenback']Whats the massive deal about McDonalds? There burgeras are no worse than any other junk food. I think they get a bum rap by the soccer mum brigade, usually the same ones who refuse to vacinate their children..... I am not saying McDonalds is good for you, but the reality is it is probably healthier than a lot of crap kids shovel into thier mouths.
    And dont start on the marketing to children malarky... every single junk food company pulls that stunt.

    Having said that, my son wont be having McDonalds until he is going to school.. and even then only as a very special treat, but the same applies that he wont be eating much other junk food either.[/quote]

    McDonalds/Junk Food/whatever, it's as label and an example. I agree that McDonalds is no worse than any of the others, but as the most successful it's easy shorthand for the discussion. Oh and McDs markets more aggressively to children than the others, how many Burger Kings/KFCs do you see with a playground?

    And don't start me on the bloody idiots that don't vaccinate their kids. We got the letter from daycare the other day warning about a measles outbreak. FFS.



  • [quote name='Kirwan'][quote name='Baron Silas Greenback']Whats the massive deal about McDonalds? There burgeras are no worse than any other junk food. I think they get a bum rap by the soccer mum brigade, usually the same ones who refuse to vacinate their children..... I am not saying McDonalds is good for you, but the reality is it is probably healthier than a lot of crap kids shovel into thier mouths.
    And dont start on the marketing to children malarky... every single junk food company pulls that stunt.

    Having said that, my son wont be having McDonalds until he is going to school.. and even then only as a very special treat, but the same applies that he wont be eating much other junk food either.[/quote]

    McDonalds/Junk Food/whatever, it's as label and an example. I agree that McDonalds is no worse than any of the others, but as the most successful it's easy shorthand for the discussion. Oh and McDs markets more aggressively to children than the others, how many Burger Kings/KFCs do you see with a playground?

    And don't start me on the bloody idiots that don't vaccinate their kids. We got the letter from daycare the other day warning about a measles outbreak. FFS.[/quote]

    If ya have to have Maccas the trick is to avoid the chips if at all possible. They're shockingly bad for you !



  • Any worse the the chips from a chippie? or BK? or KFC?

    I doubt it.



  • Supposedly the thicker the chips the [i]relatively [/i]better/less bad they are for you, shoestring fries the worst up to wedges the least worst.



  • [quote name='Donsteppa']Supposedly the thicker the chips the [i]relatively [/i]better/less bad they are for you, shoestring fries the worst up to wedges the least worst.[/quote]

    Yeah I've heard chunky chips are way less bad for you. I think its true as well, I feel far less dodgy after eating them.



  • [quote name='MN5'][quote name='Donsteppa']Supposedly the thicker the chips the [i]relatively [/i]better/less bad they are for you, shoestring fries the worst up to wedges the least worst.[/quote]

    Yeah I've heard chunky chips are way less bad for you. I think its true as well, I feel far less dodgy after eating them.[/quote]

    String fries absorb more fat when frying than "traditional' chips



  • Apparently chocolate coated tiny teddies are the worst kids treat gram for gram out there and if I recall correctly the double whopper with cheese from BK was the most artery hardening item of crap from out of KFC, BK and maccas.

    Kirwin was that at Chelsea House?My boy stopped going there a few months back ,but there' s no shortage of dullards on the coast who'll piously bleat to you about vaccinating your kids being the fourth sign of the apocolypse.



  • Yeah Chelsea House, certainly are a few "lifestyle" types up here.


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