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@reprobate said in Socialism!:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Socialism!:
This quote is gold:
The difference between Nazis and Communists is that when you mention the horrors of Naziism no one ever says "Yeah, but true Naziism has never really been tried.
You fellas love your quotes eh?
The difference is that communism is a system based on an ideal of equality, whereas Naziism is based on an ideal of the exact opposite, and in fact genocide.
True communism cannot exist, because of the moral hazard involved. It's a disastrous proven failure that had led to despotism that has cost a vast number of lives - but you can be a well meaning idiot who supports the ideal, Naziism not so much.
Or:
Wouldn't it be great if everyone was equal?
Wouldn't it be great if all the Jews were dead?Complete and utter bullshit. Both systems are based on the fact it is ok to murder people who you don't see fitting into your society.
Nazis murdered Jews, blacks etc
Communists murdered Capitalists, farmers, ethnic groups, royalty and anyone else who did not fall into communist line .Why have 100 million (at the least) been murdered under communism? Because they didn't fit into the communist model.. EXACTLY the same as Nazi murder of people that didn't fit into the society they wanted.
Communism wants equality alright.. for those left alive and who have bowed the head and given up free thought and free will. Equality of evil.Always makes me laugh when people describe Communism as a perfect system let down by imperfect people. That is bullshit. It is a fucking useless system because it isnt rooted in any kind of reality. That isn't 'peoples' fault' it is the systems fault. I could come up with a perfect capitalist system as well.. and claim capitalism is perfect. Doesnt mean squat when it is based on a false notion of people behaving in exactly the same manner.
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@jegga said in Socialism!:
It's bizarre after all that happened in the 20th century to see people defending communism or suggesting it just wasn't implemented correctly .
Ffs they had enough chances globally to try and get it right.Time is a wonderful amnesic drug. Plenty of time and all of the spotty BA students can sit in the uni union cafe and wax lyrical about the idea of the socialist utopia
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@No-Quarter said in Socialism!:
Sorry didn't realise it would ask for a login. When I click the link from the twitter app it lets me read the whole thing.
Same. Really weird. It's a paywall via website but you can read 4 free via twitter on my tablet.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Socialism!:
Complete and utter bullshit. Both systems are based on the fact it is ok to murder people who you don't see fitting into your society.
Nazis murdered Jews, blacks etc
Communists murdered Capitalists, farmers, ethnic groups, royalty and anyone else who did not fall into communist linYou're confusing outcome with the underlying theory.
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@antipodean said in Socialism!:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Socialism!:
Complete and utter bullshit. Both systems are based on the fact it is ok to murder people who you don't see fitting into your society.
Nazis murdered Jews, blacks etc
Communists murdered Capitalists, farmers, ethnic groups, royalty and anyone else who did not fall into communist linYou're confusing outcome with the underlying theory.
No I am not. The underlying theory of both is a pure society fit for model of system. Dont fit?
You die. The definition of pure is just different.But always happy to learn.. how about you show me how the communist theory has a" live and let live " attitude towards people who want to
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@Salacious-Crumb said in Socialism!:
@No-Quarter said in Socialism!:
Sorry didn't realise it would ask for a login. When I click the link from the twitter app it lets me read the whole thing.
Same. Really weird. It's a paywall via website but you can read 4 free via twitter on my tablet.
Sharing metrics in the link on Twitter?
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Communism necessitates the destruction of an entire economic system and individual rights. It is not possible without a period of anarchy and massive amounts of death and destruction, not to mention the complete marginalisation or liquidation of anyone who is in opposition. There is absolutely nothing noble about that. Followers of communism are not well-meaning idyllists with their hearts in the right place. The only people who call themselves communists are either totalitarians, losers or complete fucking idiots. Funnily enough the exact same people who seem to be attracted a certain other totalitarian creed.....