2017 Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament



  • The next crop of New Zealand’s rugby stars will be on display in the Jock Hobbs Memorial National Under 19 Tournament from September 10-16.
    
    THE TEAMS
    Graham Mourie Cup (Premiership): Auckland, North Harbour, Bay of Plenty, Waikato, Wellington, Manawatu, Tasman, Canterbury
    
    Michael Jones Trophy (Championship): Auckland Development, Northland, Taranaki, Counties Manukau, Hawke’s Bay, Heartland, Otago, Southland
    

    First round draw (Sunday 10 September)

    Premiership: Graham Mourie Cup

    Waikato v Tasman, 10.45am
    North Harbour v Wellington, 12.30pm
    Bay of Plenty v Canterbury, 2.15pm
    Auckland v Manawatu, 4pm

    Championship: Michael Jones Trophy

    Northland v Hawke’s Bay, 10.45am
    Counties Manukau v Otago, 12.30pm
    Auckland Development v Heartland, 2.15pm
    Taranaki v Southland, 4pm

    LIVE COVERAGE
    Four matches are scheduled to be screened LIVE on Sky Sport. These matches are:

    Saturday 16 September:
    12pm: 11th place playoff (teams TBC)
    1.40pm: 3rd place play off (teams TBC)
    3.20pm: Sir Michael Jones Trophy final (teams TBC)
    5.00pm: Graham Mourie Cup final (teams TBC)

    For live scores, photos and news from the tournament, follow the National Under 19s Facebook page.

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/31350/preview-jock-hobbs-memorial-national-under-19-tournament



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  • This is the official tournament programme (pdf). It contains all the squad lists.



  • Looking through the squads some teams appear to be stacked numbers wise in certain positions and somewhat bare in others indicating there must be quite a number of versatile players that can play in more than one area on the field. In a way that is quite good as at this age it can be a little difficult to say a player is a specialist in this particular spot when they are still growing and maturing into their bodies and developing new skills along the way. This probably applies more in the backs but can also apply to forwards where a prop at Under 19s might not grow any more and end up as a hooker or flanker later in life. The same could also be said of a late growth spurt could turn a flanker into a lock or vice versa.





  • DAY ONE RESULTS:

    Premiership: Graham Mourie Cup
    Waikato 28, Tasman 11
    North Harbour 30, Wellington 27
    Bay of Plenty 21, Canterbury 23
    Auckland 71, Manawatu 5

    Championship: Michael Jones Trophy
    Northland 14, Hawke’s Bay 25
    Counties Manukau 15, Otago 13
    Auckland Development 16, Heartland 19
    Taranaki 28, Southland 32

    DAY TWO DRAW (Wednesday 13 September)

    Michael Jones Trophy
    10.45am: Northland v Otago
    12.30pm: Auckland Development v Taranaki
    2.15pm: Hawke’s Bay v Counties Manukau (semifinal)
    4.00pm: Heartland v Southland (semifinal)

    Graham Mourie Cup
    10.45am: Tasman v Wellington
    12.30pm: Bay of Plenty v Manawatu
    2.15pm: Waikato v North Harbour (semifinal)
    4.00pm: Canterbury v Auckland (semifinal)

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/31390/north-harbour-shine-on-day-one-in-taupo







  • Looks like it'll be a replay of last year's Auckland/Waikato final.



  • @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    44 - 10 final score, apparently.



  • @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    44 - 10 final score, apparently.

    Plummer got a couple of tries and scored 29 points

    Surprised at the lack of footage from any of these games



  • @Duluth said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    44 - 10 final score, apparently.

    Plummer got a couple of tries and scored 29 points

    Surprised at the lack of footage from any of these games

    Apparently, only 4 games being televised (this Sunday) has to do with the costs involved. Read that on one of the official FB feeds.

    Thus far, they have also televised fewer women's NPC games than previous years and not any Heartland games. Also, fewer schoolboys games. I guess it has all to do with the Lions tour?

    Still, that doesn't explain why these games aren't livestreamed. Most of the Heartland games are.



  • Saturday 16th September:
    10.45am - Auckland Dev v Northland (15th/16th)
    5pm - Auckland A v Waikato (1st/2nd) LIVE on SS3



  • Day Two Results

    Play off matches
    Tasman 38 – Wellington 26
    Bay of Plenty 54 – Manawatu 7
    Otago 52 – Northland 9
    Taranaki 34 - Auckland Development 26

    Michael Jones Trophy
    Counties Manukau 20 - Hawkes Bay 3
    Southland 36 – Heartland 8

    Graham Mourie Cup
    Waikato 27 - North Harbour 20
    Auckland 44 – Canterbury 10

    Day Three Draw (Saturday, 16 September)
    Play off matches
    10.45am: Northland v Auckland Development (15th/16th)
    12.00pm: Hawke’s Bay v Heartland (11th/12th)*
    12.30pm: Otago v Taranaki (13th/14th)
    1.40pm: North Harbour v Canterbury (3rd/4th)*
    2.15pm: Wellington v Manawatu (7th/8th)
    4.00pm: Tasman v Bay of Plenty (5th/6th)

    Michael Jones Trophy Final
    3.20pm Counties Manukau v Southland*

    Graham Mourie Cup Final
    5pm Waikato v Auckland*

    *Matches to be broadcast on Sky Sport 3



  • After recording an opening day win over Manawatu, 71-5, where second-five Harry Plummer plundered 21-points (9C, 1P) from the boot, there was no slip-up in the semi-final against Canterbury. Led by 29-points (2T, 5C, 3P) from Plummer, there was no threat of the occasion getting to the young Auckland side.



  • Southland under-19 prop Kaydis Hona was suspended from all rugby for four weeks after getting a red card for a dangerous tackle in his team's match against Taranaki on Sunday in the national tournament in Taupo.
    
    It meant he missed Southland's win over the Heartland XV on Wednesday and will also miss Saturday's Michael Jones Cup final against Counties Manukau.
    
    Meanwhile, Canterbury under-19 player Tom Christie received a one game suspension for striking an Auckland player in the game played on Wednesday.
    

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/96894336/southland-stags-wing-ryan-tongia-handed-one-game-suspension



  • Auckland A currently leading Waikato 27-12..
    Waikato have looked dangerous but just can't finish..



  • and Waikato scores lol..
    27-17 with the kick to come



  • These Auckland boys need to learn the art of killing time..
    Poor kick by Plummer



  • @mimic How long to go?



  • 7 minutes left..
    Auckland 27-17 Waikato

    Auckland could've easily burned off 2 minutes.. But they'll learn..



  • Auckland 30-17 Waikato

    5 minutes left



  • Auckland win 30-17

    Thats 4 different winners in 4 years of this tournament,



  • Apparently Harbour beat Canterbury in the 3rd/4th play-off.





  • Plummer played 12 in the final.



  • @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    Auckland openside flanker Sione Talitui was player of the tournament.

    He is also known as Sione Havili. Has played for Auckland and won the Bronze Boot in last year's NZ Schools v Aussie Schools game.



  • Funny story. We were at the pub and we're told that Auckland were 30 points better than Waikato and that Auckland -4 was paying $1:85. We jumped all over it and the guy who gave us the tip was back of queue and they closed the option before he got to bet on it. Ha ha

    He was spewing. Had to take the head to head odds of $1:50.

    He called it a money print bet and it really was.



  • @KiwiMurph said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    Auckland openside flanker Sione Talitui was player of the tournament.

    He is also known as Sione Havili. Has played for Auckland and won the Bronze Boot in last year's NZ Schools v Aussie Schools game.

    Taufa Sione Talitui Havili is his name I think..
    Another product of the Auckland Grammar Scholarship system..



  • @Tim said in Jock Hobbs Memorial National U19 Tournament:

    Plummer played 12 in the final.

    Best use of resources getting him and Wiseguy on the field. I thought Wiseguy overplayed the cute short kicks/cross kicks. Auckland would have done better with a more conservative territory game IMO. Waikato did well living off the risky plays that went wrong.
    Plummers goal kicking was a bit off in the final

    The blindside Hoskins Sotutu (son of) had some great touches in open play

    That was a dominant tournament from Auckland 145 points in 3 games.



  • @Duluth I'm quite glad to see that he plays 12 too, as it may indicate that he has the physical ability to step up at pro level.

    cf. Anscombe played 10 in the NZ U20 team that had Sopoaga at 12 and Barrett at 15.



  • @Tim

    He's been doing it at club level too. Grammar TEC sometimes had 9 Milo-Harris 10 Jono Hickey 12 Plummer



  • @mimic Quite liked the look of him when he played a bit of Mitre 10 Cup. Hope to see more of them blooded before the season's over.



  • Watched a litttle bit of the tournament. with that in mind here is a possible squad going into next years under 20 WC. Obviously might be a bit off, also includes any playing in Mitre 10.
    Auckland pretty dominant, just too big really. Was disappointed with Wiseguy though.

    Props

    Sione Asi (Manawatu)
    Tim Farrell (Hawkes Bay)
    Robb Cobb (Auckland)
    Xavier Numia (Wellington)
    Ben Aumua-Peseta (Wellington)

    Hookers

    Flynn Thomas (Southland)
    Jacob Devery (Hawkes Bay)
    Ricky Jackson (Otago)
    Tuipolotou Tapa (Waikato)

    Locks
    Lachlan Mc Whannell (Waikato)
    Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa (Auckland)
    Will Tucker (Canterbury)
    Cameron Suafoa (Auckland)

    Loose Fowards

    Tom Florence (Taranaki)
    AJ Mua (BOP)
    Tom Cristie (Canterbury)
    Brayden Iose (Manawatu)
    Hoskin Sotutu (Auckland)
    Nathan Vaatausili (North Harbour)
    Slade McDowall (Otago)
    Isiah Miller (Tasman)

    HalfBack

    Carlos Price (Wellington)
    Jay Renton (Southland)
    Tim Hogan (Otago)

    1stV

    Cairahn Matoe (Taranaki)
    Harry Plummer (Auckland)
    Kaleb Trask (BOP)

    Midfield

    Scott Gregory (Northland)
    Bailyn Sullivan (Waikato)
    Tanielu Tele'a (Auckland)
    Ngane Puinavai (Canterbury)
    Billy Proctor (Wellington)

    Outside

    Caleb Clarke (Auckland)
    Will Jordan (Tasman)
    Bailey Simonsson (BOP)
    Siave Togoiu (Auckland)
    Viliami Koroi (Otago)
    Jamie Spowat (Tasman)


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