Hurricanes 2018



  • The 2018 Super Rugby home draw for the Hurricanes is

    alt text

    .
    .
    The full draw can be found: here

    Article on Hurricanes website: http://www.hurricanes.co.nz/the-canes/news/single/item/hurricanes-2018-draw-released/



  • Anyone know how the Hurricanes squad is shaping up for next year? Anyone want to take a stab at a XXIII?

    1. Goodes/Eves
    2. Coles
    3. Toomaga-Allen
    4. Lousi
    5. Fatialofa
    6. Fifita
    7. Savea
    8. Shields
    9. TJP
    10. Barrett
    11. Aso
    12. Laumape
    13. Proctor
    14. Savea
    15. Barrett
    16. Aumua
    17. Goodes/Eves
    18. Toby Smith
    19. Cridge
    20. Prinsep/Evans
    21. Hauiti-Parapara/Price
    22. West
    23. Goosen/NMS/Lam


  • @tim Finlay Christie as bench 9 option.



  • I'd make these changes:

    1 May usually starting ahead of Eves; no indication that Goodes will back any time soon.
    11 Savea/Goosen
    14 Aso/Savea
    16 Riccitelli
    17 Eves
    19 Blackwell (Cridge, reportedly, again has a long-term injury)
    21 Christie/Hauiti-Parapara
    23 Goosen/Savea/Lam/Lowe; NMS will be out for a long time, so haven't included him



  • Why would you want May in the team, let alone starting? His scrummaging is very substandard.

    Aumua offers a ton of impact off the bench. Riccitelli can be the replacement starting hooker.



  • Has TTT gone elsewhere?

    Edit: just checked. The bugger is headed to the Chiefs.



  • @tim said in Hurricanes 2018:

    Why would you want May in the team, let alone starting? His scrummaging is very substandard.

    Aumua offers a ton of impact off the bench. Riccitelli can be the replacement starting hooker.

    It's not about what I want. It's how the coaches made their selections last season. So it's a good possibility they may make the same selections next season if these players are available.

    If it was about what I want, then I'd name Jonah Lowe at 13. Not going to happen, at least not at the beginning of the season (except maybe preseason). You never know what happens later on in the season. The lad has a lot to offer.



  • @tim said in Hurricanes 2018:

    Anyone know how the Hurricanes squad is shaping up for next year? Anyone want to take a stab at a XXIII?

    1. Smith
    2. Coles
    3. Toomaga-Allen
    4. Lousi
    5. Fatialofa
    6. Fifita
    7. Savea
    8. Shields
    9. TJP
    10. Barrett
    11. Aso
    12. Laumape
    13. Proctor
    14. Savea
    15. Barrett
    16. Aumua
    17. Goodes/Eves
    18. Toby Smith
    19. Cridge
    20. Prinsep/Evans
    21. Hauiti-Parapara/Price
    22. West
    23. Goosen/NMS/Lam

    Smith will likely be the starting LH. Also I wouldn't discount Isaia Walker-Leawere at 19. I rate him highly if the Canes have signed him. And hopefully they have also signed Alex Fidow (Goodes is not a TH and Eves struggles as well). They need a good TH impact prop and he will fit the bill nicely. And Goosen is too good not to make the 23 as well. I hope to see him start at center in a few games

    Also Thomson might be fully fit. He is better than Cringe. And can cover lock, 6 and 8. and the HB will likely be the swap (Christie?) from the Chiefs



  • @winger I'm a little confused about your rating of Walker-Leawere. You say you "rate him highly if the Hurricanes have signed him". Does this mean you don't rate the guy if he fails to land a Hurricanes contract? I'm guessing you are placing faith in the ability of having Richard Watt amongst the Hurricanes mix doing wonders judging by the way someone (presumably Watt) has managed to transform Sam Lousi from a basket case into quite a decent looking prospect in the space of just one year since he arrived in Wellington.



  • Stuff's report on tonight's counties game says that Sam Henwood is 'believed to be joining the Canes next year'. A good signing.



  • Not even sure if Walker-Leawere will fit into the squad given last years contracted players that played at lock were Geoff Cridge, James Blackwell, Blade Thompson, Mark Abbott, Vaea Fifita, Sam Lousi, James Broadhurst and Michael Fatialofa. Abbott has signed for someone overseas and Broadhurst has retired (Lousi effectively being his replacement) leaving six others so I guess it all depends on how many of those listed are still engaged on multi-year deals that cover 2018 before we can get a good indication on whether there is space for Walker-Leawere on the roster. Putting my thinking cap on Blackwell might only have been bumped into the full time squad after Thompson fell over.
    Must also be about time Christian Lloyd reappeared on the scene again and to be awarded a contract (presumably funded almost entirely by the Accident Compensation Corporation) as well?



  • Geoff Cridge has a one-year contract for 2018 only, but it was reported in the HB Today this week he will be out for 12 months with the knee injury he has just collected playing for HB.



  • @number-10 said in Hurricanes 2018:

    Geoff Cridge has a one-year contract for 2018 only, but it was reported in the HB Today this week he will be out for 12 months with the knee injury he has just collected playing for HB.

    Great signing πŸ™‚



  • I'd go with :

    1. Smith

    2. Coles

    3. JTA

    4. Lousi

    5. Fatialofa

    6. Fifita

    7. A. Savea

    8. Shields

    9. TJP

    10. BB

    11. J. Savea

    12. Laumape

    13. Proctor

    14. Aso and then NMS when he is fit again

    15. J. Barrett

    16. Aumua/Riccitelli

    17. Eves

    18. Fidow

    19. Thompson

    20. Evans

    21. Christie/Para Para

    22. West

    23. Goosen



  • @higgins said in Hurricanes 2018:

    @winger I'm a little confused about your rating of Walker-Leawere. You say you "rate him highly if the Hurricanes have signed him". Does this mean you don't rate the guy if he fails to land a Hurricanes contract? I'm guessing you are placing faith in the ability of having Richard Watt amongst the Hurricanes mix doing wonders judging by the way someone (presumably Watt) has managed to transform Sam Lousi from a basket case into quite a decent looking prospect in the space of just one year since he arrived in Wellington.

    No i mean Also I wouldn't discount Isaia Walker-Leawere (I rate him highly) at 19 if the Canes have signed him.



  • @higgins said in Hurricanes 2018:

    Not even sure if Walker-Leawere will fit into the squad given last years contracted players that played at lock were Geoff Cridge, James Blackwell, Blade Thompson, Mark Abbott, Vaea Fifita, Sam Lousi, James Broadhurst and Michael Fatialofa. Abbott has signed for someone overseas and Broadhurst has retired (Lousi effectively being his replacement) leaving six others so I guess it all depends on how many of those listed are still engaged on multi-year deals that cover 2018 before we can get a good indication on whether there is space for Walker-Leawere on the roster. Putting my thinking cap on Blackwell might only have been bumped into the full time squad after Thompson fell over.
    Must also be about time Christian Lloyd reappeared on the scene again and to be awarded a contract (presumably funded almost entirely by the Accident Compensation Corporation) as well?

    I hope they can sign him. his combination with Lousi was very good. It was this combination in the Canterbury game. He far and away better than Blackwell



  • @winger said in Hurricanes 2018:

    @higgins said in Hurricanes 2018:

    @winger I'm a little confused about your rating of Walker-Leawere. You say you "rate him highly if the Hurricanes have signed him". Does this mean you don't rate the guy if he fails to land a Hurricanes contract? I'm guessing you are placing faith in the ability of having Richard Watt amongst the Hurricanes mix doing wonders judging by the way someone (presumably Watt) has managed to transform Sam Lousi from a basket case into quite a decent looking prospect in the space of just one year since he arrived in Wellington.

    No i mean Also I wouldn't discount Isaia Walker-Leawere (I rate him highly) at 19 if the Canes have signed him.

    I suppose the big unknown is how well will Blade Thompson come back and whether he will take back the No 8 position sending Brad Shields back onto the blindside spot which he seems to be largely preferred at by the Hurricanes selectors.



  • Very good signing. (And West will be concerned). He was a big improver this year so will watch with interest how he goes.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/97943862/jackson-gardenbachop-signs-twoyear-super-rugby-deal-with-hurricanes
    Jackson Garden-Bachop signs two-year Super Rugby deal with Hurricanes
    After making his debut in Super Rugby with the Melbourne Rebels in 2017, Wellington first five-eighth Jackson Garden-Bachop is coming home.



  • Great! I was worried he was going to keep playing in Aus, and get snapped up by their national team. He has looked very good this season.



  • He was poor for the Rebels this year but was thrown into the fire in a total mess of an organisation. Certainly has had an impressive Mitre 10 Cup.



  • Didn't we sign West from the blues to back up BB? Does that mean Garden Bachop will be third string?



  • @canefan

    Probably, but JGB can cover 12 as well I think, plus West could be used as 15 cover? And, someone will get injured anyway. Pretty good Canes team developing here.



  • @canefan said in Hurricanes 2018:

    Didn't we sign West from the blues to back up BB? Does that mean Garden Bachop will be third string?

    .West signed in a swap with Black. And no based on NPC form. GB has so far been very good. With the right development and coaching he could be right up there with the best in NZ. Hes currently not the fastest 1st around and this is one area where work is needed



  • @winger I wonder if the Blues will ask for West back now that Black is gone for the season, or if that's even possible



  • @canefan not possible. Both were free agents who happened to swap teams, it wasnt a trade.



  • @kiwimurph Good for us then, not so much for the Blues. West has shown flashes but I don't think he was helped by the Blues system. He could be a good backup and late game sub for us, his try vs the Lions showed great gas



  • @canefan West is an excellent bench option with his pace and eye for a gap when the game breaks up. He made a few appearances off the bench for the Blues this year and he was electric - I think that is his best spot. He's not as well suited to start at 10. He just doesnt have the all around game/feel. Potentially Garden-Bachop is better suited to start at 10 for the Canes if BB is injured/rested. As a Blues fan i'm just hoping Perofeta gets an injury free run and a real crack at the 10 shirt - with Black out he has a real chance to make it his own.



  • I’ve read through the whole thread and don’t see any predictions of future ABs from Canes4Life. Disappointing.

    Looks a settled squad for the Canes with the starting XV almost picking itself. A couple of question marks around the locks and whether Goosen will get more starts than Bus.



  • @act-crusader said in Hurricanes 2018:

    I’ve read through the whole thread and don’t see any predictions of future ABs from Canes4Life. Disappointing.

    Looks a settled squad for the Canes with the starting XV almost picking itself. A couple of question marks around the locks and whether Goosen will get more starts than Bus.

    I just don't think he's heard of Jonah Lowe or Hugh Renton (despite him being a 2 year Canes squad member) yet otherwise all bets would be off ;).



  • What's happened to Canes4Life? He was like the Hurricanes version of sammyc.



  • @african-monkey said in Hurricanes 2018:

    What's happened to Canes4Life? He was like the Hurricanes version of sammyc.

    He advanced to being a Hurricanes version of @ACT-Crusader but crashed and burned under the pressure πŸ˜‰



  • Don't think he made it across when the forum switched did he?



  • C4L last logged in on Sept 4 last year. That doesn't mean that they do not still read the Fern of course (although probably not), just that they no longer post.



  • @african-monkey said in Hurricanes 2018:

    What's happened to Canes4Life? He was like the Hurricanes version of sammyc.

    Maybe he just got a real life πŸ˜‰



  • @canefan said in Hurricanes 2018:

    @african-monkey said in Hurricanes 2018:

    What's happened to Canes4Life? He was like the Hurricanes version of sammyc.

    Maybe he just got a real life πŸ˜‰

    You mean reloading the fern 500 times a day to see if there are any new posts by people you have never met and probably wouldn't get on with anyway isn't a "real life"? Maybe I need to get out more.



  • @pukunui said in Hurricanes 2018:

    @canefan said in Hurricanes 2018:

    @african-monkey said in Hurricanes 2018:

    What's happened to Canes4Life? He was like the Hurricanes version of sammyc.

    Maybe he just got a real life πŸ˜‰

    You mean reloading the fern 500 times a day to see if there are any new posts by people you have never met and probably wouldn't get on with anyway isn't a "real life"? Maybe I need to get out more.

    You, me and everyone else here mate!!!



  • @pukunui said in Hurricanes 2018:

    never met and probably wouldn't get on with anyway

    Surely you fluffybunnies can't be any worse in real life. πŸ˜‰



  • Anyone know when tickets usually go on sale for the tin?



  • @bones Not sure whether this is helpful. Note: posted on 13 October.



  • @stargazer nah just looking at the first home game but cheers.


Log in to reply