Springboks v All Blacks



  • When is the team announced?



  • @hooroo who knows, since TRC is over, maybe they'll leave it until game day?



  • Why some South Africans support the ABs

    Check out the coloured guy in the blue hat about a minute in....



  • @siam Interesting viewpoint 😬



  • That video is 3 years old so the dude in the blue beret wouldn't have been happy last year.



  • @hooroo said in Springboks v All Blacks:

    When is the team announced?

    It’s already been leaked

    Crockett, Taylor....



  • @act-crusader Wasn't that the team the Lions beat 12-3??!!



  • @pakman just when everyone was worried about the future of Lions tours with some poor showings early in the tour, the Crusaders were just doing their part for the good of world rugby and tradition.

    But to answer your question, the problem in that match was from 9 out, not 1-8....



  • All Blacks:

    1 Kane Hames (4)
    2 Dane Coles (53)
    3 Nepo Laulala (8)
    4 Samuel Whitelock (91)
    5 Scott Barrett (12)
    6 Liam Squire (11)
    7 Sam Cane (48)
    8 Kieran Read (105) - Captain
    9 Aaron Smith (66)
    10 Beauden Barrett (58)
    11 Rieko Ioane (8)
    12 Sonny Bill Williams (41)
    13 Ryan Crotty (30)
    14 Nehe Milner-Skudder (10)
    15 Damian McKenzie (7)

    Reserves
    16 Codie Taylor (24)
    17 Wyatt Crockett (66)
    18 Ofa Tu’ungafasi (9)
    19 Patrick Tuipulotu (13)
    20 Matt Todd (9)
    21 Tawera Kerr-Barlow (26)
    22 Lima Sopoaga (11)
    23 David Havili (1)

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/31545/all-blacks-team-named-for-cape-town-test



  • Ok, so they're fucking with Kaino?



  • @bones

    The new foodbill.

    Happy TKB gets a run.



  • @bovidae Unless he gets to play the Bledisloe 3 match, this might be his last ABs appearance! I hope he'll get a decent number of minutes on the paddock!



  • Liam Sopoaga is back with the team after missing the Buenos Aires leg due to the birth of his first child but it's Beauden Barrett who retains the No. 10 jersey, despite suggestions midweek that the Highlanders pivot would start.
    
    "We thought we can either start [Sopoaga] this week and put Beauden on the bench. Then you think you've got the best five-eighths in the world playing on the bench, you may as well play him," said coach Steve Hansen.
    
    In other adjustments Nehe Milner-Skudder moves back into the right wing for Waisake Naholo, and TJ Perenara drops out of the match-day 23 for rest purposes. Tawera Kerr-Barlow will likely make his first appearance of the Rugby Championship, named as starter Aaron Smith's back-up.
    
    There's still no room for Jerome Kaino who again misses out on selection. He hasn't made an appearance for the All Blacks since the Lions series after taking a leave of absence for personal reasons.
    
    Hansen believes the quality of Squire's play has made him impossible to ignore.
    
    "He'll get an opportunity, he just has to wait," Hansen said regarding Kaino.
    
    "Liam Squire's played outstanding. We've left him at home to give him a rest and freshen him up for this game, and it would be pointless just to chuck [Kaino] in.
    
    "There's a Test match in a couple of weeks and quite a few games on the northern tour, so [Kaino] will get opportunities in those games at some point."
    

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/10/all-blacks-ring-changes-for-rugby-championship-test-against-springboks-in-cape-town.html



  • @bones They probably acknowledge he isn't up to speed, whether mentally or physically given the family issues he's been attending to.



  • @antipodean said in Springboks v All Blacks:

    @bones They probably acknowledge he isn't up to speed, whether mentally or physically given the family issues he's been attending to.

    Then leave him with Auckland where he has been playing okay. The Orcs could certainly do with him to avoid relegation.



  • @act-crusader yeah does seem odd that he was sent home allegedly for reasons pertaining to his home life that needed sorting, and yet they have taken him on a 2 week holiday to Argentina and South Africa...



  • @taniwharugby perhaps JK rang Steve up and told Him he needs to get out of the house again....



  • @taniwharugby pretty cool of Hansen and co to realise that a man would much rather be with the boys than sitting at home saying "sorry" in as many ways as you can think of while all the time repressing what you really want to say is "look I really really like you but you bore the tits off me sometimes, darling"

    Team environment to get him up for the EOYT is my guess (hope)



  • Well, I was completely wrong about Kaino getting the start. πŸ™‚

    Hansens' comments suggesting that if the baton hasn't been passed, it's pretty bloody close.

    The other loose forward selection that's interesting is Todd - who appears to have snaffled Ardie's job. Resting Ardie or throwing Matt a bone?

    Otherwise - seems like NMS might have a small edge on Naholo and TKB gets the bench spot - probably his last AB appearance?



  • @stargazer said in Springboks v All Blacks:

    Liam Sopoaga is back with the team after missing the Buenos Aires leg due to the birth of his first child but it's Beauden Barrett who retains the No. 10 jersey, despite suggestions midweek that the Highlanders pivot would start.
    
    "We thought we can either start [Sopoaga] this week and put Beauden on the bench. Then you think you've got the best five-eighths in the world playing on the bench, you may as well play him," said coach Steve Hansen.
    
    In other adjustments Nehe Milner-Skudder moves back into the right wing for Waisake Naholo, and TJ Perenara drops out of the match-day 23 for rest purposes. Tawera Kerr-Barlow will likely make his first appearance of the Rugby Championship, named as starter Aaron Smith's back-up.
    
    There's still no room for Jerome Kaino who again misses out on selection. He hasn't made an appearance for the All Blacks since the Lions series after taking a leave of absence for personal reasons.
    
    Hansen believes the quality of Squire's play has made him impossible to ignore.
    
    "He'll get an opportunity, he just has to wait," Hansen said regarding Kaino.
    
    "Liam Squire's played outstanding. We've left him at home to give him a rest and freshen him up for this game, and it would be pointless just to chuck [Kaino] in.
    
    "There's a Test match in a couple of weeks and quite a few games on the northern tour, so [Kaino] will get opportunities in those games at some point."
    

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/10/all-blacks-ring-changes-for-rugby-championship-test-against-springboks-in-cape-town.html

    Liam is Lima's brother?



  • @chris-b Let's hope it's not like TKB's last appearance in Africa, 2014. He ripped a tendon after five minutes on the park and only just made it to RWC.

    [not sure if he played in the massacre in Durban last year]



  • @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks:

    @act-crusader yeah does seem odd that he was sent home allegedly for reasons pertaining to his home life that needed sorting, and yet they have taken him on a 2 week holiday to Argentina and South Africa...

    Was he sent, summonsed or realised he'd better get home smartly? Think it wasn't so much the team sending him.



  • @booboo I thought they meant a Lima Sopoaga and Liam Squire cross, but you may be right.



  • I thought this is rather impressive:

    The All Blacks have scored 49 tries this year, so the next one makes 50 – and that will be the 13th time this century. It is ten years since any other team has reached 50 tries.

    But then, I'm easily impressed.



  • @booboo nitpicking...I expect the abs would have suggested he go home had he not 'volunteered'



  • Springboks

    15 Andries Coetzee, Emirates Lions – 8 caps, 0 points
    14 Dillyn Leyds, DHL Stormers – 4 caps, 0 points
    13 Jesse Kriel, Vodacom Bulls – 24 caps, 30 points (6 tries)
    12 Jan Serfontein, Vodacom Bulls – 34 caps, 25 points (5 tries)
    11 Courtnall Skosan, Emirates Lions – 8 caps, 10 points (2 tries)
    10 Elton Jantjies, Emirates Lions/NTT Shining Arcs (Japan) – 19 caps, 191 points (2 tries, 35 conversions, 37 penalties)
    9 Ross Cronje, Emirates Lions – 5 caps, 5 points (1 try)
    8 Francois Louw, Bath, England – 53 caps, 40 points (8 tries)
    7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, DHL Stormers – 28 caps, 20 points (4 tries)
    6 Siya Kolisi, DHL Stormers – 24 caps, 20 points (4 tries)
    5 Lood de Jager, Vodacom Bulls – 31 caps, 20 points (4 tries)
    4 Eben Etzebeth (captain), DHL Stormers – 62 caps, 15 points (3 tries)
    3 Ruan Dreyer, Emirates Lions – 3 caps, 5 points (1 try)
    2 Malcolm Marx, Emirates Lions – 10 caps, 10 points (2 tries)
    1 Steven Kitshoff, DHL Stormers – 18 caps, 0 points

    Replacements:
    16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, Cell C Sharks – 22 caps, 5 points (1 try)
    17 Trevor Nyakane, Vodacom Bulls – 33 caps, 5 points (1 try)
    18 Wilco Louw, DHL Stormers – 0 caps, 0 points
    19 Franco Mostert, Emirates Lions/Ricoh Black Rams (Jap) – 14 caps, 0 points
    20 Jean-Luc du Preez, Cell C Sharks – 9 caps, 5 points (1 try)
    21 Rudy Paige, Vodacom Bulls – 11 caps, 5 points (1 try)
    22 HandrΓ© Pollard, Vodacom Bulls – 21 caps, 188 points (2 tries, 29 conversions, 37 penalties, 3 drop goals)
    23 Damian de Allende, DHL Stormers – 25 caps, 15 points (3 tries)

    Info:
    http://www.sarugby.co.za/article.aspx?category=sarugby/springboks&id=4146144



  • is shoring up the lineout going to be enough, given they probably lose a bit of mobility and speed with an extra lock at 7(6)



  • @taniwharugby Don't imagine so. Du Toit is slow for a 6. And Etzebeth is a real plodder speed wise. But I do think Cronje has a not dissimilar effect on Boks backline as Nugget does on ours. Kitshoff won't weaken Boks at scrum time and seems to like propping against Nepo.



  • Strong support in cape town for the home team.alt text



  • I love how Newlands is SA's oldest rugby stadium, and how SARFU has dragged their heels for years getting an AB test scheduled there 'cos they know how strong the support for ABs is on West Cape. Don't disappoint the home fans, boys!



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  • @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks:

    is shoring up the lineout going to be enough, given they probably lose a bit of mobility and speed with an extra lock at 7(6)

    The easy option us to blame the thrower for a disfunctional lineout, and I'm going to do that. Not sure 2 inches of heigh will make much difference of Marx is throwing scuds.



  • The excitement here is boiling over.



  • @bones And yeah, that is a hell of a plodalong forward pack. This could get ugly.



  • And the anthem starts off "every hoa".



  • You can count on communication problems with that group of officials. Two Frenchies, a Jap and an Englishman.



  • That was a great turnover from Whitelock; and that pass from NMS to Smith! A pity SBW butchered it.



  • Is it legal to fly over the top of rucks?



  • South Africa scored some points! Congratulations.

    Laulala is really growing on my, that's a solid shoulder he hits with, always with the straightest back you've seen since Olo.

    Where the hell did Read disappear to on the NMS break?



  • Patience guys.


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