Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket



  • Straya v Seffrica

    Weird dismissal for Bancroft. Wandering down the wicket to Philander and edging to the keeper.

    Reasonably interested in this series. Two top teams. Both unlikeable: Seffrica less so

    Morne's last.

    Aus won toss. Batting. 15 for 1.



  • Doesn't appear to be on sky in NZ. Bugger



  • It's not too hard to see why test cricket is fucked. SA v Aus is a massive series. And no one turned up. No one turned up to watch SA v India either. No one turns up in NZ to watch tests. Not many turn up to watch in Aus unless it's England, or the Indian fans to watch India. Why would administrators schedule tests when they don't make any money from it. It's dead.

    As for the game, Aus 225/5 when bad light stopped play. As usual Smith and Warner have top scored with a 50 each.



  • @mariner4life Although a different question is how many people tuned in on TV (and how much money do the cricket administrations make from TV rights)?

    Which leads to a different point. Shouldn't Sky and the various sports administrations whose sports they cover live (i.e rugby and cricket) issue Sky subscribers with some sort of ID card that entitles us to healthy discounts on admissions to live sports events - since we have, in effect, already paid to watch the match(es)?



  • In regard to the game, in theory I'd have the Jaapies marginally ahead in this one, since I generally use a par first innings total of 220/4 as a rough guide.

    But, I'm inclined to think that bowling is a marginally stronger suit for both these teams, so maybe the Aussies are slightly ahead.



  • 305/8

    Question for those that have tv coverage (booo sky nz), is that an ok score on this pitch?



  • @duluth also interested to know, given RSA are 3 down for 60-odd



  • Sounds like the “great on paper” South African top order once again crumbled at the first sign of pressure...



  • @duluth 3 sessions I've seen suggest it's a bit slow and difficult for batsmen to dominate but not a poor wicket by any means. Almost no swing for the Aussies early doors but seam position not great either. Spinners at first change says a lot.
    Lyon is the most valuable player the Aussies currently have in test cricket, more important than Smith. 20 wickets win tests. He started the rot as Starc and Hazelwood offered very little at the start.

    Thankfully and with much appreciation in these shrieking times, the Saffa TV crew peppered the screens between overs with fit chicks and fellas carrying and drinking from jugs - jugs all round really, bless 'em



  • Random stat of the day:



  • Just watching the highlights, Starc's michelle and even Hazelwoods wicket are exquisite examples of reverse swing.
    Starcs deliveries are held like inswingers yet tail away right to left late. In Hazelwoods wicket that ball, if new, tends straight or slightly away.

    Really impressive stuff from a special bowling unit the ockers have got. Africans will have to prepare green seamers to have a shot this series I'm thinking. Otherwise Lyon and reverse will be dominant



  • @nta Amla's not really the batsman he was. I see he's nearly 35 and can't be far from done.

    Looks like the Jaapie batsmen - excluding AB - aren't going to be good enough.



  • @chris-b early days.

    Amla definitely isn't what he was, but then neither is Khawaja.



  • So after a healthy 400+ lead, we're currently skittling the Protobokeas by the looks.

    They're 4 down for negative 350-odd.



  • Cummins v Faf's off stump. Glorious bit of bowling...



  • They've added another 60 with no loss. 295 to go.



  • Century to Markram - which could have been even better if he hadn't been involved in the ABdV runout.

    But the Proteas at 9 down and still 124 runs behind, you'd say they're done. Could have been over by now except for all the time they've lost to bad light.



  • Pretty handy having people like Starc to shut the prospect of wagging tails down.

    De Cock and Markram both well set and cruising along - needing less than 130.

    Markram gets out.

    Next thing Starc takes three tail end wickets in one over and it's thanks for coming SA.

    Elgar Amla, AB and Faf look similarly crestfallen as our ODI middle order - the other guys have done so well that even modest contributions might have been enough - but, fuck all isn't!



  • [Blackcaps mode]any rain forecast?[/Blackcaps mode]



  • @mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    It's not too hard to see why test cricket is fucked. SA v Aus is a massive series. And no one turned up. No one turned up to watch SA v India either. No one turns up in NZ to watch tests. Not many turn up to watch in Aus unless it's England, or the Indian fans to watch India. Why would administrators schedule tests when they don't make any money from it. It's dead.

    As for the game, Aus 225/5 when bad light stopped play. As usual Smith and Warner have top scored with a 50 each.

    This post is depressing and accurate. I love good test cricket but I do worry it is gonna cease to exist at some stage.



  • Fuck having to wrestle your vice captain away into a dressing room because he doesn't have enough self control when your team is one wicket away from smashing South Africa!

    Clever sound bite coaching for scripted telly interviews doth not maketh the man

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/101989885/david-warner-and-nathan-lyon-under-microscope-over-runout-celebration



  • @siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    Fuck having to wrestle your vice captain away into a dressing room because he doesn't have enough self control when your team is one wicket away from smashing South Africa!

    Clever sound bite coaching for scripted telly interviews doth not maketh the man

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/101989885/david-warner-and-nathan-lyon-under-microscope-over-runout-celebration

    I'm a sucker and old fashioned, so I looked up the spirit of cricket.
    https://www.lords.org/mcc/mcc-spirit-of-cricket/what-is-mcc-spirit-of-cricket/spirit-of-cricket-preamble-to-the-laws/
    4. The Spirit of the Game involves RESPECT for:
    Your opponents ... Your own captain ... The game's traditional values

    and
    5. It is against the Spirit of the Game:
    To direct abusive language towards an opponent or umpire.. To indulge in cheating or any sharp practice

    And then I thought about the Aussies, and how they apparently play within the spirit of cricket (but headbutt 'the line').

    Yeah. Effective, but ugly, and I think it's against the spirit of the game. That's thei choice, and I don't have a huge issue with them being pork chops, just pretending to be saints who uphold the spirit of the game while abusing anyone who gets in their way.

    Screw those guys.



  • How do they 'pretend to be saints'? They are generally pretty open about liking some chat on the field. They assure us they know where the line is, which is proven incorrect on a regular basis, but still.



  • @barbarian Likely that view goes back to the Phil Hughes tragedy and some of the stuff spouted then. Time to move on methinks.



  • Nope not going there..

    To be fair looking at the cctv footage seems almost a non event. I was expecting punches thrown etc, was very underwhelming tbh



  • I wonder if someone mentioned SBW



  • @pukunui said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    I wonder if someone mentioned SBW

    And the rest..



  • Is it wishful thinking but I kind of imagine a McGrath v Sarwon scenario where the Aussie goes personal, cops a personal one back and loses plot because it "crosses the line" / he's an immature prat.



  • @booboo said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    Is it wishful thinking but I kind of imagine a McGrath v Sarwon scenario where the Aussie goes personal, cops a personal one back and loses plot because it "crosses the line" / he's an immature prat.

    Happy to dish it out, can’t take it when it’s thrown back. ( not just picking on Davy dumb dumb, I’m sure this applies to several cricketers)



  • David Warner is such a complete cockstain. The way he carries on is a complete, or at least should be, a complete embarrassment. Describing cricket as "war" before the Ashes? jesus fuck David.

    Lo and behold, once the claims and counter-claims come out, it's looking very much like personal shit one way, personal shit the other way, and explosion, and yes, sounding very Glen McGrath-ish. Davey has to know that sledge is always going to come if he pushes, why can't he let it go?

    Steve Smith's "explanation" should be re-worded for honesty. "we believe we play our best cricket when we are being abusive assholes on the field" You're not being "aggressive", you're being abusive knowing full well there will be no physical retribution.

    And before any Aussies jump on the "it's not just us" bandwagon, i am well aware of that. Not many other sides take such public pride in it though.



  • Warner is such a cock. He's also a great player. The Warner Paradox is those two facts exist in a symbiotic relationship - his cock-ness is necessary for his greatness.

    The evidence suggests he plays his best when he's a total dick. The Bull who bullies opposition bowlers, umpires and small children. He plays like he lives - gets on the front stool and belts the ball, and doesn't give a shit about what people think.

    He's one of those unique characters that exist very rarely across all sports. Aussie cricket does have a habit of producing them - I reckon Hayden and McGrath are two others who fit this mould as well. Steve Waugh maybe, but he was a little bit less brash.

    I'd argue that in this side currently he's the only real cnt. Lyon and the quicks have their moments, but nobody commits to the persona like our Davey.

    Fuck I hate that name, too. Have you ever met a decent bloke who people call Davey?



  • @mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    Davey has to know that sledge is always going to come if he pushes, why can't he let it go?

    If what's been reported, that Davey had a crack at de Cock's mother and sister, is correct, then it's bizarre - he must know everyone has a ready-made grenade to chuck into his bunker - some of them have probably put considerable work into raising their offensive capability!



  • @mariner4life It did make me laugh when I heard Warner on the news trying to claim it hadn't been personal. Bitch, please. WE KNOW YOU.



  • @chris-b said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    @mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    Davey has to know that sledge is always going to come if he pushes, why can't he let it go?

    If what's been reported, that Davey had a crack at de Cock's mother and sister, is correct, then it's bizarre - he must know everyone has a ready-made grenade to chuck into his bunker - some of them have probably put considerable work into raising their offensive capability!

    If he had a brain, which we know he doesn't, then he'd simply not engage. But he's too stupid to realise he's the easiest to wind up.

    And he looks stupid too. Not just his head, but his behaviour. What are you going to do angry little man? Punch my knees?



  • Now, did i see an article that he was interested in getting in to politics? Was that legit? Or did the Betoota Advocate get me?



  • @mariner4life With due respect to Hooroo - maybe he could take Barnaby "I don't know if it's mine's" seat! 🙂



  • @chris-b check out where the New England electorate is. Could you 1) see Davey living there; and 2) resonating with its populace?



  • @mariner4life It's in Australia isn't it?



  • Does the Australian side ever make it through a series without onfield bust ups, claims of abuse/personal sledging and general wankerness?



  • @chris-b said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    @mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:

    Davey has to know that sledge is always going to come if he pushes, why can't he let it go?

    If what's been reported, that Davey had a crack at de Cock's mother and sister, is correct, then it's bizarre - he must know everyone has a ready-made grenade to chuck into his bunker - some of them have probably put considerable work into raising their offensive capability!

    Link?


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