Chiefs v Blues



  • Blues named

    I think that's a better backline than last week - just tell Faiane to put the kicking boots away (Perofeta too).

    Finally Apisai is gone. Hopefully Papalii and Leger get a run.

    1. Pauliasi Manu, 2. James Parsons ©, 3. Ofa Tuungafasi, 4. Patrick Tuipulotu, 5. Josh Goodhue, 6. Jerome Kaino, 7. Kara Pryor, 8. Akira Ioane; 9. Jonathan Ruru, 10. Stephen Perofeta, 11. George Moala, 12. TJ Faiane, 13. Rieko Ioane, 14. Matt Duffie/Jordan Hyland,15. Michael Collins.
    
    Reserves: 16. Matt Moulds, 17. Ross Wright, 18. Mike Tamoaieta, 19. Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, 20. Dalton Papalii, 21. Sam Nock, 22. Bryn Gatland, 23. Orbyn Leger.
    

    Players not considered because of injury: Otere Black (knee – season), Blake Gibson (shoulder), Glenn Preston (calf), Sonny Bill Williams (hand), Augustine Pulu (foot), Alex Hodgman (arm), Scott Scrafton (leg – season), Daniel Kirkpatrick (ribs), Tumua Manu (thigh), Melani Nanai (ankle), Jordan Trainor (hand), Matt Johnson (season).

    http://theblues.co.nz/abs-back-for-clash-against-chiefs/



  • @kiwimurph wer're going to get smoked.



  • @nzzp Blues typically play better when they are expected to get smoked (see vs Lions round 3) vs when they are expected to win (see vs Chiefs in Auckland, vs Sharks last week).

    I'll tip a Blues loss with a bonus point.





  • @rocky-rockbottom Gerard Cowley-Tuioti is one of our best forwards.



  • Some good changes in there. Didn't know Tana had it in him to drop Tupou.

    I think the only change I would've made was Mark Telea in for Leger. Leger's tackling is Nock level bad, and the last thing we need at the moment is another guy who can't tackle. Maybe if Duffie is good to go, Hyland will replace Leger on the bench?



  • People were wondering about the late change at halfback last week? No reason apparently, just the usual muddled thinking.
    This was in a nzh article:

    But perhaps the most significant change is the selection of Jonathan Ruru to start at halfback. He was picked in that role last week, but coach Tana Umaga had a change of heart as kick-off approaches and returned Sam Nock to the No 9 jersey, injecting Ruru from the bench.



  • @duluth said in Chiefs v Blues:

    People were wondering about the late change at halfback last week? No reason apparently, just the usual muddled thinking.
    This was in a nzh article:

    But perhaps the most significant change is the selection of Jonathan Ruru to start at halfback. He was picked in that role last week, but coach Tana Umaga had a change of heart as kick-off approaches and returned Sam Nock to the No 9 jersey, injecting Ruru from the bench.

    Good grief.



  • @duluth maybe Sammy knows the best coffee shop?



  • @kirwan said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @duluth said in Chiefs v Blues:

    People were wondering about the late change at halfback last week? No reason apparently, just the usual muddled thinking.
    This was in a nzh article:

    But perhaps the most significant change is the selection of Jonathan Ruru to start at halfback. He was picked in that role last week, but coach Tana Umaga had a change of heart as kick-off approaches and returned Sam Nock to the No 9 jersey, injecting Ruru from the bench.

    Good grief.

    WHere the hell is his Knight in Shining Armour??? Poor ole Tanie Toots is getting one hell of a hammering on here!!



  • The Gallagher Chiefs team to take on the Blues is:

    1. Aidan Ross (11)
    2. Nathan Harris (36)
    3. Angus Ta’avao (5)
    4. Brodie Retallick (89)
    5. Tyler Ardron (3)
    6. Lachlan Boshier (24)
    7. Sam Cane (100) (c)
    8. Pita Gus Sowakula (1)
    9. Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (5)
    10. Damian McKenzie (55)
    11. Sean Wainui (5)
    12. Johnny Faauli (11)
    13. Anton Lienert-Brown (45)
    14. Toni Pulu (24)
    15. Solomon Alaimalo (14)

    RESERVES:

    1. Liam Polwart (11)
    2. Karl Tu’inukuafe (4)
    3. Jeff Thwaites (2)
    4. Luke Jacobson (2)
    5. Liam Messam (167)
    6. Jonathan Taumateine (6)
    7. Charlie Ngatai (45) (c)
    8. Marty McKenzie (10)


  • @bovidae said in Chiefs v Blues:

    The Gallagher Chiefs team to take on the Blues is:

    1. Aidan Ross (11)
    2. Nathan Harris (36)
    3. Angus Ta’avao (5)
    4. Brodie Retallick (89)
    5. Tyler Ardron (3)
    6. Lachlan Boshier (24)
    7. Sam Cane (100) (c)
    8. Pita Gus Sowakula (1)
    9. Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (5)
    10. Damian McKenzie (55)
    11. Sean Wainui (5)
    12. Johnny Faauli (11)
    13. Anton Lienert-Brown (45)
    14. Toni Pulu (24)
    15. Solomon Alaimalo (14)

    RESERVES:

    1. Liam Polwart (11)
    2. Karl Tu’inukuafe (4)
    3. Jeff Thwaites (2)
    4. Luke Jacobson (2)
    5. Liam Messam (167)
    6. Jonathan Taumateine (6)
    7. Charlie Ngatai (45) (c)
    8. Marty McKenzie (10)

    What happened to that ten that started a few games ago? Is he injured?



  • Weber injured?



  • No injury list has been given. No Seu either.



  • @hooroo said in Chiefs v Blues:

    What happened to that ten that started a few games ago? Is he injured?

    Falcon. Not sure.



  • Why on earth would Cooper not start Ngatai? FFS, he plays for the Naki too.



  • @tim said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Weber injured?

    Yes.

    TTT gets his chance.

    Halfback Brad Weber has been ruled out of the Chiefs' Super Rugby clash against the Blues in Hamilton on Saturday with a wrist injury.
    




  • @tim

    BBBR is back so that makes up for all the other absentees. 😉



  • An interesting choice to start Pita Gus Sowakula. I was reading a story about him that said he was a former basketballer and came to Taranaki as a winger. I thought he played well at the end of the Highlanders game.



  • @bovidae

    Jeepers, this has to be the weakest looking Chiefs lineup I have ever seen! Just hope they can cope with the Blues. Retallick, Cane and McKenzie will need to be on top form! Just don't get why Messam and Ngatai in the reserves.



  • @arhs Opposing coach changes starting halfback on a whim during his team's warm-up?



  • @arhs said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @bovidae

    Jeepers, this has to be the weakest looking Chiefs lineup I have ever seen! Just hope they can cope with the Blues. Retallick, Cane and McKenzie will need to be on top form! Just don't get why Messam and Ngatai in the reserves.

    Is it really weaker than the Chiefs team that beat the Blues at Eden Park a month or so back?



  • Unfortunately from a Blues piece I am struggling to think they can get up against a chiefs team that never seems to lack motivation for these Darby’s against their near neighbour.
    I realise injury is dictating a couple of selections but I do question a couple of them

    Kara Pryor in my opinion in last years 2017 Mitre 10 Cup for Northland was very average ,in fact he almost single Handley cost Northland a win against Otago at home.
    He was one of the most penalised players in the whole comp,based on form I thought he was very fortunate to have picked up a super contract.
    and what I saw in his time off the bench against the sharks did not impress me one bit.
    I think Pryor tackles too high,can see what he’s trying to do,ride the player down and then use the tacklers body to get to your feet quicker,in my opinion Dalton Papalii is more effective over the ball,and chops low and gets to his feet and is bigger body and carries well.

    The other player I am just not sure about is TJ Faiane ?,I question wether he has got an all round game at this level,I saw a lot of tucking the ball under the arm and crashing headlong into contact, at 5’9 and just over 90kgs ,I am not sure if that what I am looking for from a smaller midfielder,if I wanted that sort of midfielder I would have just stuck a bigger body In the form of George Moala in the 12 jersey.
    2 very average kicks just after the Blues had regained the lead against the sharks also did not help his or the teams cause.

    One player whom the Blues had on their books a couple of seasons back was Micheal Little,I personally would have him in the 12 jersey every day of the week and twice on Sundays before any of the options they have available with SBW injured.
    Like Faiane,not a big guy but has an ability find space for others around him,been running around for the Sunwolves and I have been highly impressed.

    Well just thought I would put it out there..am I being too harsh on both Pryor and Faiane..?



  • @steven-harris said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Well just thought I would put it out there..am I being too harsh on both Pryor and Faiane..?

    No.

    Pryor was quite good a few years ago, but hasnt' been near that recently.

    Faiane just ... I dunno, I haven't been impressed. Hopefully he improves, but both those kicks were ... interesting.



  • @steven-harris I've been a fan of Pryor in the past, but he had a poor game against Hurricanes dev team and was bumped off tackles.

    I like Faiane's attitude and skills, but he might be too small for this level at the moment.



  • Yeah I thought Faiane improved the Blues backline when he came on last week - he is an actual midfielder and helped open up the attack. He was quite willing in defense too. He does have a constant high error rate however - hopefully this week he shelves his kicking game. As mentioned I do worry about his size too.

    Pryor.. well the pressure will be on with Papalii on the bench and Blake Gibson I think is only about 2 or 3 more games away too.



  • @tim @Steven-Harris yep Pryor hasnt moved on as much as you'd have expected in fact probably gone back. As above was average for Northland last year, had 1 very good game then rest all pretty much worth forgetting.

    Even his running g game seems off, not getting the ball nit in the right parts of the field.

    Needs a huge game this weekend if only to get some confidence back into his game, but playing in a teamseemingly low on confidence makes that a little harder.

    I've never got the love for Faiane??



  • @nepia said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Why on earth would Cooper not start Ngatai? FFS, he plays for the Naki too.

    more time on the field means more chance of getting injured or concussed!

    save him for if we need him!



  • @kiwimurph

    Yes, I think starting 15 is far weaker than the team named to start that day. Weber, Seu, Laulala, Falcon, Stevenson and Brown all gone altogether.

    I do see that Cooper might want a fresh Messam and Ngatai marshalling the troops in the second half, as the Blues are hard to stop when they get on a roll. But, I feel we need them for 80 minutes if possible.

    I want to see Ngatai's long boot used to good effect, making Blues start from deep in their own territory. And I would have thought Messam's control at back of the scrum would be a valuable asset.



  • I think the use of Messam is a key to how the team performs. In most games he has used his experience and leadership to identify periods in the game that need a lift in intensity and delivered for a massive burst of effort before running out of gas.
    If I was coach I would also be tempted to see how this attribute works off the bench.



  • interested to see how big Gus goes.. to be honest you'd think he'd be the perfect guy to come on in the last 20 and go nuts - Liam much better in the tighter early exchanges..



  • @arhs said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @bovidae

    Just don't get why Messam and Ngatai in the reserves.

    Managing players. Ngatai is well overdue for his next long term injury, so by playing him for only 20 mins a match, reduces the risk ?



  • @MajorRage

    Matson also said the coaching team had talked about the desire to have experienced players such as Messam and Ngatai to take the park at the back end of games, bringing composure to close them out.

    I'd just play them for the whole game myself.



  • Charlie Ngatai has been pulled from the line-up because of a 'niggle'. I didn't hear who has replaced him on the bench.



  • @stargazer Replaced by Alex Nankivell.



  • The Chiefs injury run continues...



  • Blues' bench has changed, with Jimmy Tupou replacing Orbyn Leger, so a 6-2 split in favour of forwards.



  • @dice said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Some good changes in there. Didn't know Tana had it in him to drop Tupou.

    Spoke too soon haha



  • Pretty innacurate start by the Chiefs, but they’ve now got three back. Looks like they’ve decided to try to go through them.

    3-6 after 9.


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