Blues 2019



  • @steven-harris To be fair to Nee Nee he's only there due to injuries. He's barely mitre 10 cup standard and only ever got a run there due to injuries as well.



  • My feeling is they need to try the house down to get some rugged, experienced guys who could create a backbone and gel nicely with their stars.

    A loose trio of Whitelock, Ioane and Papalii springs to mind as a good start. Maybe a Proctor type for the midfield. That kind of thing...



  • @african-monkey fair call,it was probably more around the point,if we have injuries,it’s best to have quality cover,glad to be proved wrong on NeeNee.



  • A guy like Wes Goosen might be worth targetting too. He has shown he is uo to it but is stuck in a long line of players at the Canes.



  • @steven-harris Pretty sure Dunshea played No. 8 for the Barbarians vs the Lions and made a good fist of it. I'd have liked to have seen him get time either there or at blindside flanker for the Crusaders. He would be an excellent pick-up, but I hope we can keep him - despite being an injury magnet. He's still only 22.

    One of Jack Stratton or Ere Enari is likely to be available. Similarly Billy Harmon or Jed Brown. Bidwell-Curtis or Ethan Blackadder. All useful if they're required.



  • Posted on fb by an ex ferner.
    https://thaicastle.co/2018/04/30/justin-marshall-named-as-blues-head-coach/

    “I’m going to put the BOOMFA back in Blues! Oh me oh my you are gonna enjoy this yes boy!”



  • It depresses me that every season I have to start looking at optimistic options for next season, before the cricket finishes.

    Also, we're stuffed unless we get

    • a good coach
    • a good board
    • a good 8/9/10 axis

    😞



  • @nzzp that's a lot to ask for bro 😉

    Be lucky if you even get 1/3!!



  • @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

    It depresses me that every season I have to start looking at optimistic options for next season, before the cricket finishes.

    Also, we're stuffed unless we get

    • a good coach
    • a good board
    • a good 8/9/10 axis

    😞

    We're unlikely to have a change at coach, because it's almost certain they'll be no change at board level. Fuck.

    So about that 8/9/10 axis..

    We know who the 8 is. He's still developing and hopefully he gets some good instruction at AB level because he isn't getting it at SR level.

    At 10, I don't have much hope Gatland will improve.
    Perhaps Plummer(currently on a dev contract), Black or Perofeta grows into the role (listed in order of how likely that is IMO).

    The biggest immediate concern is probably 9.
    Nock has gone backwards this year, which is an achievement considering where he started. I'm fine with Pulu as an impact sub, but that is all.
    Letting Nock go and signing Enari might be the best option. Enari has strong links to the region which should still be a factor.



  • @duluth heard through good source,they were going to announce Umagas extension after the Jaguaries game,but they were hoping to announce it on a victory to soften the blow..I think we can safely assume the announcement might be put on hold for a while..which is just madness..announce him already and at least you can start planning for 2019..



  • @steven-harris

    I wonder what they will do if there are no more wins??

    Not surprising. About the best that can be hoped for is a clean out of the assistants. Someone like Coventry can be the real coach and Umaga is just a figurehead.
    Perhaps they can wheel out the pirate ship and Umaga can dress up as Bluebeard if he gets bored.



  • @duluth give him a 'Director of Rugby' type title and let someone else loose on the actual coaching.

    If they were going to announce it, you assume the paperwork is all signed, but maybe there is a clause in there about performance over the rest of the season and the blip (actually, continuation of norm) of the Jaguares has made them think about invoking said clause, so delaying any announcement for fear of even more egg on face?



  • @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

    give him a 'Director of Rugby' type title and let someone else loose on the actual coaching.

    ..and selecting.

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

    but maybe there is a clause in there about performance over the rest of the season

    Damn you. Don't give me hope.



  • @duluth gotta look for the positives, however hopeful....



  • @duluth I am pissing myself with laughter..I”m sure they could find some sort of cheerleader role for J.K. As well



  • @duluth said in Blues 2019:

    @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

    It depresses me that every season I have to start looking at optimistic options for next season, before the cricket finishes.

    Also, we're stuffed unless we get

    • a good coach
    • a good board
    • a good 8/9/10 axis

    😞

    We're unlikely to have a change at coach, because it's almost certain they'll be no change at board level. Fuck.

    So about that 8/9/10 axis..

    We know who the 8 is. He's still developing and hopefully he gets some good instruction at AB level because he isn't getting it at SR level.

    At 10, I don't have much hope Gatland will improve.
    Perhaps Plummer(currently on a dev contract), Black or Perofeta grows into the role (listed in order of how likely that is IMO).

    The biggest immediate concern is probably 9.
    Nock has gone backwards this year, which is an achievement considering where he started. I'm fine with Pulu as an impact sub, but that is all.
    Letting Nock go and signing Enari might be the best option. Enari has strong links to the region which should still be a factor.

    The Board is the most important component, and the least likely to change. A good Board appoints a good coach and ensures a good environment. After that, wati three years and we start to populate the team with talent.

    The counter-argument is take a top franchise, add an arrogant and out of touch board, wait 15 years and then mop up the tears.



  • Looks like SBW and Nanai are back:



  • @tim plenty of smiles all around. We won last week boys, nothing to worry about....



  • @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

    @tim plenty of smiles all around. We won last week boys, nothing to worry about....

    Winning papers over a lot of cracks. It's also a habit.

    Our weaknesses were there, but beating the Aus conference leaders away from home should be smile time



  • @tim Let's hope they're indeed still around in 2019 🤔



  • @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

    @tim plenty of smiles all around. We won last week boys, nothing to worry about....

    Winning papers over a lot of cracks. It's also a habit.

    Our weaknesses were there, but beating the Aus conference leaders away from home should be smile time

    If beating Aussie teams meant anything these days then sure.

    I'm not of the mind set that we should accept mediocrity, or being the joke team of the NZ conference, just because the Blues board and coaches do.



  • @kirwan said in Blues 2019:

    @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

    @tim plenty of smiles all around. We won last week boys, nothing to worry about....

    Winning papers over a lot of cracks. It's also a habit.

    Our weaknesses were there, but beating the Aus conference leaders away from home should be smile time

    If beating Aussie teams meant anything these days then sure.

    I'm not of the mind set that we should accept mediocrity, or being the joke team of the NZ conference, just because the Blues board and coaches do.

    I don't disagree, but in our current state, a win is a win. We have beaten both conference leaders away from home, with injuries. We suck, but it's a small highlight in a dire season.



  • I just can’t see why it would be “smile time” for win number 3, especially when we limp over the finish line and other teams are smashing these guys.



  • @kirwan small victories...

    In a season like this why wouldnt you celebrate a win?

    Otherwise you mope about lamenting how shit you are even if only papering over cracks for a week.

    Not saying they have made any steps forward, but if you can't be happy after a win...



  • According to Scotty Stevenson, a lot of former Blues players want to be involved in mentoring etc now. These include Jason Chandler, Justin Collins, and Ofisa Tonu'u.



  • @tim said in Blues 2019:

    According to Scotty Stevenson, a lot of former Blues players want to be involved in mentoring etc now. These include Jason Chandler, Justin Collins, and Ofisa Tonu'u.

    Why is Collins in bold?



  • @kirwan Because he's one of the best and hardest working players in Blues' history.



  • @tim said in Blues 2019:

    @kirwan Because he's one of the best and hardest working players in Blues' history.

    Couldn’t agree more.



  • I still love the part he played in the Spencer try against the Crusaders where he marched it to the corner flag and then kicked the conversion. Collins did that one handed pass to Spencer as he ran into the gap. Was awesome. Sadly, that's all mitigated by the fact he played for Northland. 😉



  • @nepia it's dicks like you as why I hate HB 😉



  • Speaking of Collins - Michael Collins is on the bench for club rugby in Auckland this weekend.

    Hooray - Blues have really missed his 'communication skills'



  • @nepia caught up with All Black #772 Stu Wilson yesterday at the Waitemata Club yesterday,had met Stu several times in the past,got to say he was looking the best I had seen him in a very long time,amazing when you make some changes in your life.
    We were talking together about the Blues and it was bad enough about the way they were travelling but it came as a real punch in the nose to see Carlos Spencer had signed with the Canes.
    The great Micheal Jones who was standing with us at the time intervened,and told me that Carlos had applied for the Job as the backs coach with the Blues 2 seasons ago,Stu Wilson also confirmed that with a conversation he had Brian Williams they had together at a function during the week..
    You just have to shake your head,that was at the beginning of Tanas watch..the patients really are running the asylum at the Blues.

    Just on a footnote, I asked Stu if he still stayed in touch with Bernie Fraser,he said Bernie is living in a Perth,works at a mine..
    He reckons the rest of his life he can’t remember,take out of that what you can..but he’s got himself right and looks really good.still funny as ever..



  • @steven-harris Waitemata are looking pretty good this year, aren't they? Are they a good chance for the playoffs? How did Adrian Choat go?



  • @tim Waitemata have had a very good off season,they are very fit,not the biggest team I have ever seen,but they do have a couple really good athletes in the pack,Adrian Choat packed down at number 8,huge workrate..
    I don’t know if you remember Ari Hunt who played number 8 for the Blues in 2015,not sure what happened to this kid,I know he picked up an injury in late 2015 with Auckland,did not train and in the space of a year,had his Auckland contact torn up and ,went from 118kgs to 165kgs,Still looks around 150kg,but is now playing loosehead prop..similar story to Kalolo Tuiloma from Counties Manukau..
    Richie Harris from Auckland rugby was looking at Waitmata loose forward /lock,Jay Tuivati ex Kelston Boys,incredible physical specimen,around 6”3 or 6”4 similar in build to how Ari Hunt use to look..is in the Auckland wider training squad.
    The halfback Godinet Tinei and the first five Dion Fraser are only young but both looked really good..



  • @steven-harris Sounds good. Thanks for the report. 🙂



  • @steven-harris Did he refer to a rugby ball as "the nut" ... ?



  • @majorrage he does actually..loves the Canes





  • @kiwimurph That's a great signing.



  • MacDonald must have been offered a VERY good deal to move to Auckland as he was reluctant to move his family to Chch.


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